I hear there's this new Silent Hunter game... - Page 2

Ilki · 06-04-12, 03:34 AM

Subsims aren't exactly your mass market products. Big players like Ubisoft are indeed out there to make the most for their shareholders. They do care what you think of their game. However they would care a lot more if you held their stock. It's the market economy lads, and games are bigger than movies these days. This was not the case in the 90's when sim games could actually be profitable.

TorpX · 06-04-12, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilki

It's the market economy lads, and games are bigger than movies these days. This was not the case in the 90's when sim games could actually be profitable.

If they were profitable in the 90's, shouldn't they still be profitable today?

I would be happy to pay for a fixed/updated version of SH 4.

Ilki · 06-05-12, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

If they were profitable in the 90's, shouldn't they still be profitable today?

Games cost tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands for big games to develop in the 90's.

These days they cost millions or tens of millions. Of course you could just develop a simple DOS game but who would buy it? Sure the market is bigger now too, but I think the increase can be tributed more to FPS enthusiasts than subsimmers.

badaboom · 06-10-12, 08:57 PM

BUMMER

habib911 · 07-02-12, 03:47 PM

Maybe they should focus on making their releases as polished as can be before they go and publish new, half baked products. just my opinion

RAM · 07-04-12, 10:22 AM

Neal, to answer your questions. Yes, World of tanks is succesful. Sorta. Has some huge gameplay issues (artillery implementation, for one), and balancing issues (most tech tree, notably the heavy lines, are really unbalanced amongs themselves, some tanks being clearly much better than others). It's suffered some major problems with highly questionable developer decisions that has led to some huge balancing crysis (such as putting the Type 59, 1957 tank, into a game with 80% WW2 tanks)

And on top of it it's got an atrocious matchmaking system.

However overall, globally considered, yes, it works, and yes, it's fun and quite addictive. And the F2P label attached to it holds at least some (not much, but still some, which nowadays is something) credibility to it.

It's got its issues anyway. Grave case of developer just skipping by any community requirement based on real, practical and reasonable grounds, for one. Draconian EULA, for other.

The game on itself is enjoyable and fun, but has HUGE weakspots and the developer's attitude is far from the best. I played it quite a lot, still do now and then, but once the flaws really got to me (artillery, horrendous matchmaking, unresponsive developers, atrocious cases of moderator/sanction unfairness greelighted by an abusive EULA), I simply dropped it as an usual gaming experience.

Munster · 07-16-12, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Looks like the model is free to play, flash based. How realistic will it be? How will the game manage time compression, transit to base, 3D crew, role-playing options, game saves, upgrades for pay, and many other elements?

Stay tuned.

One thing is for sure; as the trailer reveals: the german sychronisation is as bad as in SH5 and since it looks like the whole gameplay is based upon SH5 I don't expect very much.

kiwi_2005 · 07-17-12, 02:13 PM

Welcome to Silent Hunter online!

Mission lvls 1-5

Quest: Hans the fishermen has asked you to bring back 200 shark skins: You must use your deck gun to kiil 200 sharks and turn in their skins to Hans.

Tip 1: Sharks will not always drop their skins
Tip 2: just keep grinding

Mission lvls 5-10

Quest: Hans the fishermen has ask you to kill 200 seagulls: You must shoot down 200 seagulls with your Flak guns and turn in the skins to Hans

Tip 1: Seagulls do not always drop their skins
Tip 2: Just keep grinding

Welcome to MMO's

Herr-Berbunch · 07-19-12, 10:07 AM

But so true (hopefully not in this case)

Onkel Neal · 07-19-12, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Welcome to Silent Hunter online!

Mission lvls 1-5

Quest: Hans the fishermen has asked you to bring back 200 shark skins: You must use your deck gun to kiil 200 sharks and turn in their skins to Hans.

Tip 1: Sharks will not always drop their skins
Tip 2: just keep grinding

Mission lvls 5-10

Quest: Hans the fishermen has ask you to kill 200 seagulls: You must shoot down 200 seagulls with your Flak guns and turn in the skins to Hans

Tip 1: Seagulls do not always drop their skins
Tip 2: Just keep grinding

Welcome to MMO's

Seriously?

It's not like that.

06-10-12, 08:57 PM	#4
badaboom Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 359 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	BUMMER __________________

07-02-12, 03:47 PM	#5
habib911 Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 9 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Focus Maybe they should focus on making their releases as polished as can be before they go and publish new, half baked products. just my opinion

07-04-12, 10:22 AM	#6
RAM Helmsman Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 106 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Neal, to answer your questions. Yes, World of tanks is succesful. Sorta. Has some huge gameplay issues (artillery implementation, for one), and balancing issues (most tech tree, notably the heavy lines, are really unbalanced amongs themselves, some tanks being clearly much better than others). It's suffered some major problems with highly questionable developer decisions that has led to some huge balancing crysis (such as putting the Type 59, 1957 tank, into a game with 80% WW2 tanks) And on top of it it's got an atrocious matchmaking system. However overall, globally considered, yes, it works, and yes, it's fun and quite addictive. And the F2P label attached to it holds at least some (not much, but still some, which nowadays is something) credibility to it. It's got its issues anyway. Grave case of developer just skipping by any community requirement based on real, practical and reasonable grounds, for one. Draconian EULA, for other. The game on itself is enjoyable and fun, but has HUGE weakspots and the developer's attitude is far from the best. I played it quite a lot, still do now and then, but once the flaws really got to me (artillery, horrendous matchmaking, unresponsive developers, atrocious cases of moderator/sanction unfairness greelighted by an abusive EULA), I simply dropped it as an usual gaming experience. Last edited by RAM; 07-04-12 at 10:52 AM.

07-17-12, 02:13 PM	#8
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Welcome to Silent Hunter online! Mission lvls 1-5 Quest: Hans the fishermen has asked you to bring back 200 shark skins: You must use your deck gun to kiil 200 sharks and turn in their skins to Hans. Tip 1: Sharks will not always drop their skins Tip 2: just keep grinding Mission lvls 5-10 Quest: Hans the fishermen has ask you to kill 200 seagulls: You must shoot down 200 seagulls with your Flak guns and turn in the skins to Hans Tip 1: Seagulls do not always drop their skins Tip 2: Just keep grinding Welcome to MMO's __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

07-19-12, 10:07 AM	#9
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	But so true (hopefully not in this case) __________________

06-04-12, 03:34 AM	#1
Ilki Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Gulf of Finland Posts: 5 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Subsims aren't exactly your mass market products. Big players like Ubisoft are indeed out there to make the most for their shareholders. They do care what you think of their game. However they would care a lot more if you held their stock. It's the market economy lads, and games are bigger than movies these days. This was not the case in the 90's when sim games could actually be profitable.