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Old 06-16-18, 07:19 AM   #1
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Default New copyright for internet content

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Even worse is the fact that the system can be abused quite simply. Anyone can claim copyright for content at any time, and then all users are at the mercy of an algorithm. For example, the Electronic Frontier Foundation describes what would happen if someone uploaded all of Wikipedia: no one would be able to quote or link Wikipedia content until the machinery sorted out the mischief.

Users whose content was maliciously declared copyrighted by another user would first have to take legal action and complain - in order to be able to use their own content again .


And that's not all: the reform of copyright law also aims to regulate machine-read content. All text and data mining, every machine reading and analysis of content should be relevant to copyright. Mind you: It's not about saving this data, but about the pure reading process. If you want to read and analyze, you have to pay. A disaster for independent scientists, citizens and journalists who are in fact making publicly available data inaccessible.

I stopped reading print newspaper many, many years ago. this maybe is a good invitation to consider stopping to care for internet newspapers as well. Too much rabble-rousing, too much lobby-driven propaganda anyway. Most of what I find, is not worth it.



If many come to my conlsuioon, it will dramatically change traffic patterns - and backfiore severly against those who pushed this new agenda. I take that as a grin-as-much-as-you-can bonus. Regarding scientists and journalists: too much work in their fields these days is corrupted as well anyway.



The bad side of this is that people will be pushed to simply believe the verbal garbage the government tells them for propaganda purposes. But then, many do that anyway, so.



Written paper letters, delivery by people you trust. Ruins every big data scanner's and spy agency's day. Maybe we shoukld ban schools form teahcing children to read and write. In Germany, this project has already reache dimpressingly far. The share of school absolvents being incapable of accurate readi8ng,w riting, understanding texts and doing elemental maths, is climbing form year to year. Strangely, the school notes get better and better on average. Today's average Math-Abitur-absolvents (=Gymnasium, the highest of the three-class school system in germany) , it was reported a week ago, cannot solve math quesiton from Realschul-math exam in the early 60s anymore, representing ther medium-class school format.


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Sure, let's just stop reading news and make ourselves even more ignorant than we already are.
What people need to do instead of stop reading online newspapers is to regain their critical thinking skills.
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Old 06-16-18, 09:26 AM   #3
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Don't read newspapers, and be uninformed. Read newspapers, and be misinformed.


Quality has gone down the drain many, many years ago already anyway. Its absolutely no loss not to read newspapers anymore. I would even say its a win in life quality, and a benefit to your health as well.



With TV its even much worse. You cant pratcially differ anymore between TV broadcasters, and political interest groups. The name for that is simple: propaganda.


Those who mess with ylour life and claim it is for the bettgering of the world, in the end all have one thing in common: they want to have control over you and want you to obey their demands. Of course, you get only educated for your own better.



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Don't read newspapers, and be uninformed. Read newspapers, and be misinformed.
Haha, Oh wow, that was so funny and so true.
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I remember not too long ago somebody brought up that NATO expansion was a broken promise to Russia. Several years ago I read an interview of Mikhail Gorbachev where he states no such things were spoken of when they pulled out of East Germany. I recently tried to find the interview again on Google to no avail all I found was pro Russia stories of broken promises by NATO

I used Duck Duck Go and lo and behold I found Gorbachev's interview.

Not saying one search engine is better than the other but it seems to me Google can sure manipulate its results.
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Old 06-16-18, 10:16 AM   #6
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Not saying one search engine is better than the other but it seems to me Google can sure manipulate its results.
That is one of the advantages they have and can abuse whilst being the number one in their field.
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Don't read newspapers, and be uninformed. Read newspapers, and be misinformed.
Here in comes the critical thinking skill.


We as humans have more information available to use with a push of a few buttons than have been available to any single person in the history of the world. Use it.
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Correct (="critical") processing of corrupted information necessarily must lead to corrupted results.
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Correct (="critical") processing of corrupted information necessarily must lead to corrupted results.
Bollocks.

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We as humans have more information available to use with a push of a few buttons than have been available to any single person in the history of the world. Use it.
This is what I find the most disturbing. We have access that no previous generation could ever dream of. If we have a question about a law, we can easily pull the text of the law, if we have a question about a court decision, we can pull the slip reports. It only takes a few moments, but it seems that even with this unprecedented access, people are still relying on other people to interpret.

There is an old saying that I just made up: You can lead a person to data, but you can't make them think.
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This is what I find the most disturbing. We have access that no previous generation could ever dream of. If we have a question about a law, we can easily pull the text of the law, if we have a question about a court decision, we can pull the slip reports. It only takes a few moments, but it seems that even with this unprecedented access, people are still relying on other people to interpret.

There is an old saying that I just made up: You can lead a person to data, but you can't make them think.
The quality of data is what is at question here. I woudl ask that question even - and especially - in regard to scientific raw data and the way and method it was won.
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Sure, let's just stop reading news and make ourselves even more ignorant than we already are.
What people need to do instead of stop reading online newspapers is to regain their critical thinking skills.
Yes that stop using Facebook posts and tweets as a new source. plus there quite a few independents, that will take your average MSM online articale and take it to pieces with an hour or so's worth of actual investigative journalism.
Your Daily mail's, Guardian's, New York times, Foxes and CNNs etc are only really interested in spinning a sensationalist narrative and feeding peoples confirmation bias.
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Default No more internet links to our stories !?

A friend told us there was a very special referendum in EU Thursday or next Thursday.

I'll not try to write what it means ´cause I'm still trying to understand the whole of it.

From what I understand I can't post a link to a story without this copyright thing.

https://juliareda.eu/eu-copyright-reform/

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If this is the work of the EU then it must be correct and proper....shouldn't it
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