Anybody playing Crusader Kings 2? - Page 8

Drewcifer · 05-28-12, 10:25 PM

Worthy of being noted I think..

http://kotaku.com/5913709/there-is-a...y-it-right-now

05-29-12, 01:47 PM

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...irst-Expansion

Playable Muslims ExpansionDLC coming as well as a bunch of features for the base game.

Drewcifer · 05-29-12, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rilder

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...irst-Expansion

Playable Muslims ExpansionDLC coming as well as a bunch of features for the base game.

Yes not sure how I completely missed out on that one. At this point I'm literally just willing to THROW ALL MY MONEY at paradox. This is probably the best game I have ever played, it just scratches that itch that total war fell short on, and civ just wasn't specific enough, etc, etc.

This game is so well polished and they have done such a good job I have already vowed to buy every single dlc they make just to support them and this game.

Drewcifer · 06-07-12, 11:13 PM

50% off on Steam right now for anybody that has been wanting to pick this game up.

I can't recommend this game enough, honestly its just an absolute masterpiece.

Raptor1 · 06-07-12, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewcifer

50% off on Steam right now for anybody that has been wanting to pick this game up.

I can't recommend this game enough, honestly its just an absolute masterpiece.

It's the same on GamersGate, which is usually a better place to get Paradox games in general.

06-08-12, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewcifer

50% off on Steam right now for anybody that has been wanting to pick this game up.

I can't recommend this game enough, honestly its just an absolute masterpiece.

Well honestly, they should of nabbed it while the Amazon Plentiful paradox package was still going, could of gotten it and 4 other Paradox games for even less then CK2 is by itself on steam right now.

Biggles · 06-10-12, 01:17 PM

Now it's 75% off!

Drewcifer · 06-10-12, 02:25 PM

Yep now its 75% along with all its DLC. Haha.. its hard to keep track with steam. Also I agree Rilder I was just posting the sale so people knew, they might have missed the amazon sale.

Valantine · 06-10-12, 05:56 PM

Picked it up off steam at 75% off - Been interested in it for a while so took the chance at a tenner I'm not going to complain!
Only thing I need to do is figure out EXACTLY how to play the damn thig: seem to be pretty much sitting around blindly marrying off my underlings right now! - even that mad old cow finally got an equally batsh*t chap to marry!

V

Oberon · 06-10-12, 08:56 PM

Typical, and I get it from Gamersgate at 50% the day before!

Still, got A House Divided as well, so that's always good.

Oberon · 06-12-12, 07:38 PM

Heh, my random Welsh Duke gets the trait of 'Impaler', two days later his wife falls pregnant.

emaszs · 06-13-12, 02:41 PM

Love the game, however I can only hope that one day I'll get my head around the succession laws ^^

Crécy · 06-27-12, 03:25 PM

So Sword of Islam DLC is out. Who has tried it? Confess!

Hottentot · 06-28-12, 07:03 AM

Bought it on day 1, but haven't really had time to play around with it yet. Seems nice so far, though. The Muslims feel suitably different from Christians but not over the top. Definitely more than just cosmetic changes and a huge new area to play around (well, to start from, really, but it still turns the tables around well enough for me.) So I'm so far thinking it's worth the 10 drops of my heart blood.

In addition I'm thinking this...

Combined with my favorite three letter abbreviation...

Hottentot · 07-01-12, 12:30 AM

Some more experiences from playing the muslim rulers. Still mostly just impressions, but I've had now a little more time to fiddle with them...

The politics is different from Christians. The muslims can have up to four wives, so there is no point in trying to secure your inheritance by murdering heirs. On the other hand, lots of wives means lots of potential alliances. That's what I'm thinking anyway. Can't say for sure because, as always, I have started from the lowest tier vassal ruler and every time I try to marry someone who is someone I get the good old "desires better alliance" card thrown on my face.

The life is far more violent. If someone isn't plotting to kill my heirs, then someone is plotting to kill me. I'd love to do this as well, but I'm honestly a little on the fence with the new murder plot mechanic introduced in 1.06 patch. I love it as an idea, but it seems to take quite a long time to get anyone dead. Based on forums and personal experience so far. I wouldn't mind this, if they hadn't also raised the assassination costs into ludicrous sums: if I get 1 gold from my single province per month, I'm not going to wait 200 months (16.6 years!) to have a 10 % chance of murdering someone. I liked it more in 1.05 when it wasn't too cheap anymore, but still affordable.

Due to this, the game has become a little too much "might is right" for my tastes, whereas before it was more about intrigue for me as a small fish. I know some players think fabricating claims and hiring mercenaries is the only way to play the game (indeed, the very point of the game, it some times seems), but I don't like playing that way. How does this relate to the muslims? In the way that for muslims might is indeed right. Not only do they of course get holy wars against Christians, Paradox has also given them the "conquest" Casus Belli, which basically means you can invade your neighbor (muslim or not) just because you feel like it. I don't know how historical this is, but it's definitely not something that makes the game better in my opinion. It's turning CK into yet another "paint the map with your color" game, whereas before just getting one county next to you was a challenge you had to work for.

The decadence mechanic is a nice addition to the muslims, but the AI is pretty horrible with handling it so far. For player it's relatively easy to keep down, bar some events that inevitably give it to you with no way to avoid them. Even on low levels it gives some penalties, but on the other hand very low levels give bonuses. In short, it's something that has an effect on the game and therefore nice.

The muslim events so far have been a little disappointing. They are basically the same as the Christian events, only with different texts. There are some muslim specific events too I have so far encountered, but not many of them. My biggest gripe regarding this, however, are the vices. When I got the "proud" trait and hovered over it, it gave me exactly the same description as it does to the Christians: latin name and how the Church shuns it. I'm a muslim, why would I care about what the infidels think or how they call it in their silly languages?! This was a huge immersion breaker, as petty as it may sound, even if the vice itself was still a vice for a muslim.

So in short, it's still CK 2, but the experience is suitably different. I think I still slightly prefer Christian rulers for their more complex politics and backstabbing opportunities, but when I feel like just bashing something and painting the map, muslims are a good choice. I'm sure Paradox will still give them some depth in the future, and so far things look promising enough.

06-10-12, 01:17 PM	#112
Biggles Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sweden (I'm not a Viking...) Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Now it's 75% off! __________________

06-10-12, 05:56 PM	#114
Valantine Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 193 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Picked it up off steam at 75% off - Been interested in it for a while so took the chance at a tenner I'm not going to complain! Only thing I need to do is figure out EXACTLY how to play the damn thig: seem to be pretty much sitting around blindly marrying off my underlings right now! - even that mad old cow finally got an equally batsht chap to marry! V __________________ ARMA 3 Co-Op Battalion Recruiting Worldwide* http://www.iijg53.com

06-27-12, 03:25 PM	#118
Crécy Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dark forest Posts: 793 Downloads: 316 Uploads: 0	So Sword of Islam DLC is out. Who has tried it? Confess! __________________ “Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new.” -Henry David Thoreau

06-28-12, 07:03 AM	#119
Hottentot Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My private socialist utopia of Finland Posts: 1,918 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Bought it on day 1, but haven't really had time to play around with it yet. Seems nice so far, though. The Muslims feel suitably different from Christians but not over the top. Definitely more than just cosmetic changes and a huge new area to play around (well, to start from, really, but it still turns the tables around well enough for me.) So I'm so far thinking it's worth the 10 drops of my heart blood. In addition I'm thinking this... Combined with my favorite three letter abbreviation... __________________ Хотели как лучше, а получилось как всегда.

07-01-12, 12:30 AM	#120
Hottentot Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My private socialist utopia of Finland Posts: 1,918 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Some more experiences from playing the muslim rulers. Still mostly just impressions, but I've had now a little more time to fiddle with them... The politics is different from Christians. The muslims can have up to four wives, so there is no point in trying to secure your inheritance by murdering heirs. On the other hand, lots of wives means lots of potential alliances. That's what I'm thinking anyway. Can't say for sure because, as always, I have started from the lowest tier vassal ruler and every time I try to marry someone who is someone I get the good old "desires better alliance" card thrown on my face. The life is far more violent. If someone isn't plotting to kill my heirs, then someone is plotting to kill me. I'd love to do this as well, but I'm honestly a little on the fence with the new murder plot mechanic introduced in 1.06 patch. I love it as an idea, but it seems to take quite a long time to get anyone dead. Based on forums and personal experience so far. I wouldn't mind this, if they hadn't also raised the assassination costs into ludicrous sums: if I get 1 gold from my single province per month, I'm not going to wait 200 months (16.6 years!) to have a 10 % chance of murdering someone. I liked it more in 1.05 when it wasn't too cheap anymore, but still affordable. Due to this, the game has become a little too much "might is right" for my tastes, whereas before it was more about intrigue for me as a small fish. I know some players think fabricating claims and hiring mercenaries is the only way to play the game (indeed, the very point of the game, it some times seems), but I don't like playing that way. How does this relate to the muslims? In the way that for muslims might is indeed right. Not only do they of course get holy wars against Christians, Paradox has also given them the "conquest" Casus Belli, which basically means you can invade your neighbor (muslim or not) just because you feel like it. I don't know how historical this is, but it's definitely not something that makes the game better in my opinion. It's turning CK into yet another "paint the map with your color" game, whereas before just getting one county next to you was a challenge you had to work for. The decadence mechanic is a nice addition to the muslims, but the AI is pretty horrible with handling it so far. For player it's relatively easy to keep down, bar some events that inevitably give it to you with no way to avoid them. Even on low levels it gives some penalties, but on the other hand very low levels give bonuses. In short, it's something that has an effect on the game and therefore nice. The muslim events so far have been a little disappointing. They are basically the same as the Christian events, only with different texts. There are some muslim specific events too I have so far encountered, but not many of them. My biggest gripe regarding this, however, are the vices. When I got the "proud" trait and hovered over it, it gave me exactly the same description as it does to the Christians: latin name and how the Church shuns it. I'm a muslim, why would I care about what the infidels think or how they call it in their silly languages?! This was a huge immersion breaker, as petty as it may sound, even if the vice itself was still a vice for a muslim. So in short, it's still CK 2, but the experience is suitably different. I think I still slightly prefer Christian rulers for their more complex politics and backstabbing opportunities, but when I feel like just bashing something and painting the map, muslims are a good choice. I'm sure Paradox will still give them some depth in the future, and so far things look promising enough. __________________ Хотели как лучше, а получилось как всегда.

05-28-12, 10:25 PM	#106
Drewcifer Commodore Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 601 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Worthy of being noted I think.. http://kotaku.com/5913709/there-is-a...y-it-right-now

05-29-12, 01:47 PM	#107
Rilder Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...irst-Expansion Playable Muslims ExpansionDLC coming as well as a bunch of features for the base game.

06-07-12, 11:13 PM	#109
Drewcifer Commodore Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 601 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	50% off on Steam right now for anybody that has been wanting to pick this game up. I can't recommend this game enough, honestly its just an absolute masterpiece.

06-10-12, 02:25 PM	#113
Drewcifer Commodore Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 601 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Yep now its 75% along with all its DLC. Haha.. its hard to keep track with steam. Also I agree Rilder I was just posting the sale so people knew, they might have missed the amazon sale.

06-10-12, 08:56 PM	#115
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Typical, and I get it from Gamersgate at 50% the day before! Still, got A House Divided as well, so that's always good.

06-12-12, 07:38 PM	#116
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Heh, my random Welsh Duke gets the trait of 'Impaler', two days later his wife falls pregnant.

06-13-12, 02:41 PM	#117
emaszs Nub Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Love the game, however I can only hope that one day I'll get my head around the succession laws ^^