Malaysia airlines B777 missing

[GoldenRivet]

Yes... they would

Initial reports indicated they were receiving signals from the black boxes. Is that no longer accurate?

[Admiral Halsey]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Yes... they would

Initial reports indicated they were receiving signals from the black boxes. Is that no longer accurate?

Where did you see that? I've been following this story since it started and not once did they mention them getting any signals from the black boxes.

[GoldenRivet]

very early on... its actually mentioned early in this thread i think

[Admiral Halsey]

Well they haven't mentioned that in anything else so it was probably false.

[GoldenRivet]

UPDATE [11:32am]: VN Express, Vietnam's largest news site, reports that Vietnam Emergency Rescue Center just announced it has found signal of the missing plane at 9.50am 120 miles South West of Ca Mau cape, the Southern-most point of Vietnam.

The signal is believed to be the ELT (Emergency Locator Transmittor) , which can be activated manually by the flight crew or automatically upon impact.

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the link provided in that posts has been updated repeatedly, the quotation from the article is no longer there that i can find

[TarJak]

The lack of wreckage found so far is most likely because they have not found the crash site yet because they've been looking in the wrong place. The delay due to the false lead on the oil slick means the chance of finding floating wreckage over the crash site is diminishing with every day that passes.

We're not going to know until we do. Once something of substance is found we'll hear about it soon enough.

[TarJak]

Crew meal service is the main weakness in cockpit security. There are protocols that cabin crew can use to pass a message if they are under duress to let the flight crew know of untoward events but if timed right an attacker near the cockpit could get close during crew getting their refreshments passed to them or when flight crew exit the cockpit for comfort stops.

The lack of demands by any terror group would indicate hijacking to be less likely though it can't be ruled out yet.

[Skybird]

Coincidence - or more? At the time of the event American authorities issued warnings that the 777's belly could rip open in midflight.

[Jimbuna]

Something definitive must come out sooner or later...surely

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Coincidence - or more? At the time of the event American authorities issued warnings that the 777's belly could rip open in midflight.

That is a little misleading. The FAA issued an AD regarding inspections for craft around a specific area - for cracks. There is nothing in the AD or associated data that says the "belly could rip open".

It definitely is coincidence- as the AD process was finalized just days ago and included public hearings and input from various operators - a process that takes months.

[Skybird]

http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/artic...g-Rumpfes.html

Das Verschwinden der Boeing 777 der Malaysia Airlines in Asien bleibt weiter ein großes Rätsel. Eine der möglichen Ursachen könnte ein rapider Druckverlust im Flugzeug und ein Aufbrechen der Hülle sein, die dann zum Absturz führen würde. Genau vor diesem Szenario warnt jetzt die US-Flugsicherheitsbehörde FAA, die für die Sicherheit der Boeing-Modelle zuständig ist.


Nach Recherchen der "Welt" hat die FAA jetzt eine erneute Warnung vor Rissen in der Außenhaut des Rumpfes von Boeing-777-Modellen in der Nähe einer Antenne veröffentlicht. Die Betreiber des Modells werden aufgefordert, die Stelle genau zu untersuchen. Sollte es dort Risse oder Korrosion geben und dies nicht behoben wird, könnte dies zu einem rapiden Druckverlust in der Kabine und letztlich zum Verlust der Stabilität der Flugzeugstruktur führen.

[Tango589]

Originally Posted by Skybird

http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/artic...g-Rumpfes.html

And now in English:

The disappearance of the Boeing 777 Malaysia Airlines in Asia remains a great mystery. One of the possible causes could be a rapid loss of pressure in the aircraft and a breaking of the shell to be, which would then lead to a crash. Just prior to that scenario now warns the U.S. FAA Aviation Safety Authority, which is responsible for the safety of Boeing models.


After researching the "world", the FAA has published a new warning from cracks in the outer skin of the fuselage of the Boeing 777 models in the vicinity of an antenna. The operators of the model are called upon to examine the place exactly. Should there enter cracks or corrosion, and this is not corrected, it could lead to a rapid loss of pressure in the cabin, and ultimately to the loss of stability of the aircraft structure.

You're welcome.

[Tchocky]

This Airworthiness Directive does not apply to MH370.

It applies to 777-200/200LR/300/300ER/777F models.

MH370 was a 777-200ER.

[Dread Knot]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Something definitive must come out sooner or later...surely

I'm beginning to think the Langoliers got 'em.

[Stealhead]

Cracks do not necessarily render an aircraft unsafe.I know for a fact that a good number of C-5As have cracks (very very tiny ones) in areas towards the tail around the ramp doors.The ones that do have the cracks got closely inspected on a routine basis.

It all depends on the location of a crack even a very tiny one in the wrong place can be bad news in other cases it can only mean routine maintenance until the cracks reach a certain size.


A buddy from the Air Force worked in NDI (non destructive inspection) they are the ones who inspect aircraft fuselages and components for fatigue and cracks.Pretty cool job though I do not much about the science of it all.

I do know that flying a B-1B 20 feet of off the ground over a corn field is a very bad idea as corn cobs will get sucked up and destroy the engines causing the the Bone to crash in return causing the big wigs to pull the inspection records of the last person to have inspected the compressors(my friend) and have him sweat bullets until blame is laid on hot rod piloting and not a poor inspection job.