UK Politics Thread - Page 558

STEED · 10-10-18, 05:56 AM

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Government accused of burying bad news over welfare reform
A three-year trial found that sanctions had little effect on claimants improving skills and might even cause harm.

https://news.sky.com/story/governmen...eform-11522440

Any attempt by the government of the day to bury any report is not democracy.

STEED · 10-11-18, 05:30 AM

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Are we living in a 'nanny state'?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45356189

YES...And slowly it is getting worst by the year and to many people are sitting there and taking it.

Step one to breaking that habit.

Give it ago and to hell with your PC hippy neighbours.

STEED · 10-11-18, 05:43 AM

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Benefit changes coming into force next year have been compared to the poll tax - the policy that helped end Margaret Thatcher's time as prime minister.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45817897

I don't think it was the straw that broke the camel's back as a number of issues were going on.

Yes UC is a mess and a mess this government must fix as Labour will scrap it if they win, resulting in TAX payer's money going up in smoke. It's all to Clear under Dodgy Dave and Gids who dreamed up UC the planning was awful and the execution of it was like sending claimants to the block for silly reasons.

STEED · 10-11-18, 05:46 AM

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Final Brexit divorce deal could be reached by next Wednesday - EU
Michel Barnier declares checks on animal food product travelling between Northern Ireland and Britain must increase tenfold.

https://news.sky.com/story/final-bre...ay-eu-11522903

We shall see.

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DUP MP insists party is not bluffing over threat to vote against Budget over Brexit

https://news.sky.com/story/dup-mp-in...rexit-11523279

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A DUP MP has told Sky News the party is not afraid of potentially triggering a general election by voting against the Budget.

The Northern Ireland party, which backs Theresa May's minority Conservative government in key votes at Westminster, has made it clear the radical move is on the table if the prime minister breaches their red lines in the Brexit negotiations.

DUP leader Arlene Foster is steadfastly against any agreement with the EU that would leave Northern Ireland being treated differently to the rest of the UK.

Comes down Arlene Foster not some party member, that said it's another cannon shell aimed at May.

Catfish · 10-12-18, 02:03 AM

The great british brexit robbery

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...cked-democracy

"We are facing nothing less than a crisis in our democracy, based on the systematic manipulation of data to support the relentless targeting of citizens, without their consent, by campaigns of disinformation and messages of hate.

The democratic crisis is all around us in the era of Trump and brexit.
The systematic unaccountable manipulation of data is a sleepless reality of the digital era about which the public and public bodies remain naive.

The lack of consent goes to the heart of an unequal relationship in which public control is lacking over a too-often lawless and amoral space in people’s lives. The campaigns of disinformation and messages of hate – unchecked and uncontrolled – threaten the rational basis of discourse and policy-making without which mutual trust cannot function."

Brexit is orchestrated.

STEED · 10-12-18, 08:01 AM

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Oxford Conservatives ban Bullingdon Club members from their ranks

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45835126

Oh what fun we had.

STEED · 10-13-18, 05:16 AM

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Ireland's deputy prime minister has warned the UK government his country "can't accept a time limit" on a Brexit backstop agreement aimed at preventing a hard border on the island of Ireland.

https://news.sky.com/story/ireland-c...-says-11524506

Mayday is falling apart, attacked within her own party, attacked by the opposition party's and under fire from her Allies and that's not counting the EU. It's all adding up to a giant mess, never trust politicians they screw you every time.

STEED · 10-14-18, 04:45 AM

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Brexit: David Davis calls for cabinet rebellion over PM's plan

Cabinet ministers should "exert their collective authority" and rebel against Theresa May's proposed Brexit deal, ex-Brexit Secretary David Davis has said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45853384

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POLITICS LIVE: 'People didn't vote to half-leave' EU

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Key points

Iain Duncan Smith tells Sophy Ridge 'people did not vote to half leave' EU
Brexiteer says he would not support a deal where the UK stays in EU customs union

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...ummit-11525690

The knives are out and MAYday is in the disco. Batten down the hatches you have seen nothing yet as the last six months are going to be a nightmare!

Catfish · 10-14-18, 06:25 AM

Of course they did. Problem is that Farage, Bannon and Cambridge Analytica messed with some voters minds before the referendum took place. The win of Trump as the outcome of the brexit referendum have been orchestrated by five people, and this is what is really scary.

I doubt another referendum or whatever would change the outcome now, since 1. those minds still have the opinion implanted in them and 2. no one will admit he has been thoroughly mind-f'd by Farage and his ilk. While the latter still cashes in money for his EU seat A.-hole!
I take it that if the EU still exists in five years, Farage will be in prison.

STEED · 10-15-18, 05:16 PM

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Prime Minister Theresa May has called for "cool, calm heads" as she insisted a Brexit deal was "still achievable" despite differences with the EU.
She said it was "frustrating" the two sides could not agree how to guarantee no hard border in Northern Ireland.
The issue could not "derail" the chances of striking a deal, she said.
And she sought to reassure critics of her approach that the UK would not end up in "permanent limbo" tied to EU customs rules.
Meanwhile, ahead of a crunch summit of European leaders this week, German Chancellor Angela Merkel warned a deal was looking "more difficult" because of the border question.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45868503

It's all going to pot, so I take it no chance striking a deal this Wednesday as reported last week.

Catfish · 10-16-18, 01:47 AM

It looks like the biggest problem for England are its own people. Not Russia, not the EU.

Great time for Bannon and Farage to jump up and (ab)use the confusion.

Jimbuna · 10-16-18, 03:56 PM

Well, someones certainly been busy whilst I've been away.

IMO a deal with the EU will still materialise....money speaks louder than words.

STEED · 10-17-18, 05:04 AM

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Cheaper food drives UK inflation lower in September

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45886791

WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH!

My food bills have been going up and I'm buying less and less!

Meanwhile MAYday flys out to the EU to make the deal today.

Catfish · 10-17-18, 06:34 AM

Heard that the chances are good, with the EU accepting the plan and giving one more year for the UK to get to grips with the NI border, while an agreement about all else has been reached.

So the UK will be out of the EU but still maintaining customs and trade status for one year, without having to pay for it

Have the cake and eat it, for one year.

Money talks, of course. But they wanted out, let them.

Jimbuna · 10-17-18, 09:52 AM

^ I'm not sure if that is totally accurate but I'd settle for it should that be the case.

10-12-18, 02:03 AM	#8360
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	The great british brexit robbery https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...cked-democracy "We are facing nothing less than a crisis in our democracy, based on the systematic manipulation of data to support the relentless targeting of citizens, without their consent, by campaigns of disinformation and messages of hate. The democratic crisis is all around us in the era of Trump and brexit. The systematic unaccountable manipulation of data is a sleepless reality of the digital era about which the public and public bodies remain naive. The lack of consent goes to the heart of an unequal relationship in which public control is lacking over a too-often lawless and amoral space in people’s lives. The campaigns of disinformation and messages of hate – unchecked and uncontrolled – threaten the rational basis of discourse and policy-making without which mutual trust cannot function." Brexit is orchestrated. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 10-12-18 at 05:00 AM.*

10-14-18, 06:25 AM	#8364
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Of course they did. Problem is that Farage, Bannon and Cambridge Analytica messed with some voters minds before the referendum took place. The win of Trump as the outcome of the brexit referendum have been orchestrated by five people, and this is what is really scary. I doubt another referendum or whatever would change the outcome now, since 1. those minds still have the opinion implanted in them and 2. no one will admit he has been thoroughly mind-f'd by Farage and his ilk. While the latter still cashes in money for his EU seat A.-hole! I take it that if the EU still exists in five years, Farage will be in prison. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

10-16-18, 01:47 AM	#8366
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	It looks like the biggest problem for England are its own people. Not Russia, not the EU. Great time for Bannon and Farage to jump up and (ab)use the confusion. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

10-16-18, 03:56 PM	#8367
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,146 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Well, someones certainly been busy whilst I've been away. IMO a deal with the EU will still materialise....money speaks louder than words. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

10-17-18, 06:34 AM	#8369
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Heard that the chances are good, with the EU accepting the plan and giving one more year for the UK to get to grips with the NI border, while an agreement about all else has been reached. So the UK will be out of the EU but still maintaining customs and trade status for one year, without having to pay for it Have the cake and eat it, for one year. Money talks, of course. But they wanted out, let them. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

10-17-18, 09:52 AM	#8370
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,146 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ I'm not sure if that is totally accurate but I'd settle for it should that be the case. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)