RED STORM RISING Campaign feedback - Page 3

Miika · 12-30-05, 05:15 PM

Did some fixing, and the third time I tried it worked okay. I've had similar problems with my own TLAM missions as well, although the game usually crashes the second the TLAMs hit the target. Sorry for the trouble, it seems the problem is with my computer. :hmm:

Miika

wayne69 · 01-10-06, 12:57 PM

bravo zulu bill,
isnÂ´t it funny playing a book.
i love it.
the red sky at morning mission was one of the tuffest i ever played offline. so many contacts, suddenly the red ones detected me, the torpedo in the water warning want stopped, over 12 torps near me, wow this was a thrill

so you give us the chance to play the missions single, very nice idea.
but i love to have a sub-, frigate and air campain seperatly and donÂ´t know what your futuire plans are a akkula and kilo campain for the same theatre.

well canÂ´t wait for the chrismas present 2006

carry on with your great work
regards
wayne69

Bill Nichols · 01-10-06, 06:10 PM

Graci!

Hobnail · 01-10-06, 08:21 PM

I'm not sure that Time on Target and LWAMI are playing nice. I'm quietly sneaking into the launch zone and my fellow 688I start lobbing TASM at the VERY distant picket ships.

In the ensuing debacle both pickets are sunk and subsequently the other two 688I are sunk by the the aggressive counter attack of the Bears and Mays that flocked to the area. I had snuck further south into the zone and launched on time but was sunk 20 minutes later by a air launched torpedo. Damn gungho skippers on the other boat...

Bill Nichols · 01-10-06, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobnail

I'm not sure that Time on Target and LWAMI are playing nice. I'm quietly sneaking into the launch zone and my fellow 688I start lobbing TASM at the VERY distant picket ships.

In the ensuing debacle both pickets are sunk and subsequently the other two 688I are sunk by the the aggressive counter attack of the Bears and Mays that flocked to the area. I had snuck further south into the zone and launched on time but was sunk 20 minutes later by a air launched torpedo. Damn gungho skippers on the other boat...

Hmmm... wonder what's going on? I didn't see this behavior in testing (but, I wasn't using LWAMI, either). :hmm:

TLAM Strike · 01-10-06, 09:56 PM

I used LWAMI and didn't see the 688s attack...

LuftWolf · 01-11-06, 11:28 AM

I'm not sure of anything that would cause that to happen with the mod as opposed to without. :hmm:

Scion · 01-11-06, 07:26 PM

Great Cmpaign, Bill.

I also didnt have a problem with the Riposte mission. I mined the LCACs and the Boghammars in the P-3 Mission, and took out the bear at the earliest oppertunity, was excellent.

Hobnail · 01-11-06, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

I used LWAMI and didn't see the 688s attack...

Did you promote the surface contacts to Link? I did. Seeing as we're all supposed to be lurking at radio depth they'd get the info and could quickly triangulate the shot.

I'll replay the scenario without linking and "deny" my fellow skippers the cheap shot, see what happens.

Bill Nichols · 01-11-06, 08:29 PM

Has anyone finished this campaign, yet? If so, how about giving a short AAR for the final mission?

TLAM Strike · 01-11-06, 09:11 PM

The last misson ran really slowly on my computer, same with the first mission, so I never bothered finishing the mission after I helped kill a few subs that were threating the northern landing force.

Mocbo · 01-12-06, 08:02 PM

The Mission Nordic Hammer is nerarly unplayable with the Lwami Mod because the Sonar Ranges are to short !.

I cant hear the LARGE Surface Ballte Group at Start and after a Speed Run at 2000 Feet and 32 Knots 50 Miles to North : No Contacts on Sonar !!
The ESM is unusable because the SAG emits no EM Pulses and moving stealthy at Emcom.

Only SHOW TRUTH gives the Position of the SAG.

No Chance to get them on Sonar.
Thats are Unrealistic because Surface Contacts are relatively Easy to Detect. Often Real Subs detects Warships nearly to 100 Miles or more per CZ Contactm, somtimes direct....

In other Missions i am not able to detect a Foxtrot at 70 Feet an at 7 Miles Range from a FFG !!! The Foxtrot is a OLD DIESEL Sub , this Sub Type noisier then a Nuke Sub ( i did not mean the newer Kilos )

The best is to Play Red Storm Missions without Lwami ( Reason Sonar " Feature" )

Greetings

Moc

LuftWolf · 01-12-06, 08:38 PM

Some say ranges are too long, others too short.

It all depends on the mission designer to make the mission playable.

Bill has said on numerous occasions that he designed the missions to play without the Mod, and no one has disputed this.

I've said that the mod will generally make the missions better because of improved AI performance but some missions may be made different because the ranges are generally reduced.

I'm not sure what the conditions in the mission are, but I regularly hear surface contacts over 50nm away. In fact, in some cases the mod will make the ranges longer because the ~45nm hardcaps are removed from the TA's.

Just be sure you are taking into account the large layer effects in 1.02/3 when you are relating your experiences.

Scion · 01-12-06, 11:41 PM

I had a similar problem without LWAMI, but I got a single Helix emitting, on which I closed with a 20 min flank run towards the esm bearing. After that, I got a few whiffs of the BG on sonar, and now as we speak I'm closing in

TLAM Strike · 01-12-06, 11:53 PM

I played NH and beat it using LWAMI. I sunk the flattop, 2 of the Udaloys- damaged one, and sunk a FF. When ever I poped above the layer it stated raining SS-N-14s so I had to get out of their range to do my sonar checks. Then I would attack with two salvos of torpedoes (1st four I would just cut my wires and reload) and run another 30 or so miles and do a check. After about six (game) hours and with four MK 48s left and no Missiles I final nailed the CVG and won!

12-30-05, 05:15 PM	#1
Miika A-ganger Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Helsinki Posts: 78 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	This time it worked Did some fixing, and the third time I tried it worked okay. I've had similar problems with my own TLAM missions as well, although the game usually crashes the second the TLAMs hit the target. Sorry for the trouble, it seems the problem is with my computer. :hmm: Miika __________________ Constantem Decorat Honor

01-10-06, 06:10 PM	#3
Bill Nichols Master of Defense Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,502 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	Graci! __________________ My Dangerous Waters website:

01-10-06, 08:21 PM	#4
Hobnail Bosun Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 67 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I'm not sure that Time on Target and LWAMI are playing nice. I'm quietly sneaking into the launch zone and my fellow 688I start lobbing TASM at the VERY distant picket ships. In the ensuing debacle both pickets are sunk and subsequently the other two 688I are sunk by the the aggressive counter attack of the Bears and Mays that flocked to the area. I had snuck further south into the zone and launched on time but was sunk 20 minutes later by a air launched torpedo. Damn gungho skippers on the other boat... __________________ My TMA is like a drunk game of \"Pin the Tail on the Donkey\" Be kind.

01-10-06, 09:56 PM	#6
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	I used LWAMI and didn't see the 688s attack... __________________

01-11-06, 11:28 AM	#7
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I'm not sure of anything that would cause that to happen with the mod as opposed to without. :hmm: __________________ LW

01-10-06, 12:57 PM	#2
wayne69 Swabbie Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 11 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	bravo zulu bill, isnÂ´t it funny playing a book. i love it. the red sky at morning mission was one of the tuffest i ever played offline. so many contacts, suddenly the red ones detected me, the torpedo in the water warning want stopped, over 12 torps near me, wow this was a thrill so you give us the chance to play the missions single, very nice idea. but i love to have a sub-, frigate and air campain seperatly and donÂ´t know what your futuire plans are a akkula and kilo campain for the same theatre. well canÂ´t wait for the chrismas present 2006 carry on with your great work regards wayne69

01-11-06, 07:26 PM	#8
Scion Sailor man Join Date: May 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 47 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Great Cmpaign, Bill. I also didnt have a problem with the Riposte mission. I mined the LCACs and the Boghammars in the P-3 Mission, and took out the bear at the earliest oppertunity, was excellent.

01-11-06, 08:29 PM	#10
Bill Nichols Master of Defense Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,502 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	Has anyone finished this campaign, yet? If so, how about giving a short AAR for the final mission? __________________ My Dangerous Waters website:

01-11-06, 09:11 PM	#11
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	The last misson ran really slowly on my computer, same with the first mission, so I never bothered finishing the mission after I helped kill a few subs that were threating the northern landing force. __________________

01-12-06, 08:02 PM	#12
Mocbo Watch Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 23 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The Mission Nordic Hammer is nerarly unplayable with the Lwami Mod because the Sonar Ranges are to short !. I cant hear the LARGE Surface Ballte Group at Start and after a Speed Run at 2000 Feet and 32 Knots 50 Miles to North : No Contacts on Sonar !! The ESM is unusable because the SAG emits no EM Pulses and moving stealthy at Emcom. Only SHOW TRUTH gives the Position of the SAG. No Chance to get them on Sonar. Thats are Unrealistic because Surface Contacts are relatively Easy to Detect. Often Real Subs detects Warships nearly to 100 Miles or more per CZ Contactm, somtimes direct.... In other Missions i am not able to detect a Foxtrot at 70 Feet an at 7 Miles Range from a FFG !!! The Foxtrot is a OLD DIESEL Sub , this Sub Type noisier then a Nuke Sub ( i did not mean the newer Kilos ) The best is to Play Red Storm Missions without Lwami ( Reason Sonar " Feature" ) Greetings Moc

01-12-06, 08:38 PM	#13
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Some say ranges are too long, others too short. It all depends on the mission designer to make the mission playable. Bill has said on numerous occasions that he designed the missions to play without the Mod, and no one has disputed this. I've said that the mod will generally make the missions better because of improved AI performance but some missions may be made different because the ranges are generally reduced. I'm not sure what the conditions in the mission are, but I regularly hear surface contacts over 50nm away. In fact, in some cases the mod will make the ranges longer because the ~45nm hardcaps are removed from the TA's. Just be sure you are taking into account the large layer effects in 1.02/3 when you are relating your experiences. __________________ LW

01-12-06, 11:41 PM	#14
Scion Sailor man Join Date: May 2001 Location: New Zealand Posts: 47 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I had a similar problem without LWAMI, but I got a single Helix emitting, on which I closed with a 20 min flank run towards the esm bearing. After that, I got a few whiffs of the BG on sonar, and now as we speak I'm closing in

01-12-06, 11:53 PM	#15
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	I played NH and beat it using LWAMI. I sunk the flattop, 2 of the Udaloys- damaged one, and sunk a FF. When ever I poped above the layer it stated raining SS-N-14s so I had to get out of their range to do my sonar checks. Then I would attack with two salvos of torpedoes (1st four I would just cut my wires and reload) and run another 30 or so miles and do a check. After about six (game) hours and with four MK 48s left and no Missiles I final nailed the CVG and won! __________________