[REL] Unit damage from smoke and/or fires

Rubini · 03-14-11, 08:00 AM

Hi guys,

Cheers to all !

This is just brilliant! Thanks TDW for more this awesome mod. This is a good motivation to come back again to Sh3. I'm really without free time but more 2 or 3 months ahead and I will go back here.

This TDW's mod and his mod approach opened a new door to some old "impossible to do" mod ideas.

Yesterday I tried the planes fire damage: works flawless!

And the most good news: also that old wanted mod - depth charges making noise allowing you to escape (bold like effect) - seems to work ok too using the same TDW's mod approach. It need more tests and this is my problem now - free time. I will post more info as the mod goes ahead.

Kudos to TWD!

TheDarkWraith · 03-14-11, 09:43 AM

Yes this opens the door to many other possibilities. I'm working on fire damage to airplanes in SH5. Adding damage to my secondary explosions FX mod for SH5 also (can be done for SH3 also via my SH4 effects for SH3 mod)

LGN1 · 03-14-11, 03:26 PM

Hi Rubini,

great to see you again!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

Yesterday I tried the planes fire damage: works flawless!

And the most good news: also that old wanted mod - depth charges making noise allowing you to escape (bold like effect) - seems to work ok too using the same TDW's mod approach. It need more tests and this is my problem now - free time. I will post more info as the mod goes ahead.

Kudos to TWD!

You got planes damaged by fire? That sounds great! The second issue with the depth charges seems even better! I'm looking forward to seeing your results

Thanks again to TDW for sharing his great idea!

Cheers, LGN1

PS: If you need a beta tester, just let me know...

Magic1111 · 03-14-11, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGN1

Hi Rubini,

great to see you again!

Yes, I seconded this !!!

Rubini · 03-14-11, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LGN1

Hi Rubini,

great to see you again!

You got planes damaged by fire? That sounds great! The second issue with the depth charges seems even better! I'm looking forward to seeing your results

Thanks again to TDW for sharing his great idea!

Cheers, LGN1

PS: If you need a beta tester, just let me know...

Nice to "see" you guys too!

Yeah, my main problem is to test all the hole thing just because i don't have, for now, the necessary time. Can you help me making some beta test? Anyway, I will need 2 or 3 days just to activate all my work space for sh3 again, to organize my files and so on!

Also TWD said he is working on Sh5 version of this. I can see very good new mods on the horizon very soon.

Hans Witteman · 03-14-11, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubini

Nice to "see" you guys too!

Yeah, my main problem is to test all the hole thing just because i don't have, for now, the necessary time. Can you help me making some beta test? Anyway, I will need 2 or 3 days just to activate all my work space for sh3 again, to organize my files and so on!

Also TWD said he is working on Sh5 version of this. I can see very good new mods on the horizon very soon.

Hi Rubini,

Great to see you in a come back to your old love

The community is booming again.

Good thing never get old welcome back

Best regards Hans

MRV · 03-14-11, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubini

Hi guys,

Cheers to all !

This is just brilliant! Thanks TDW for more this awesome mod. This is a good motivation to come back again to Sh3. I'm really without free time but more 2 or 3 months ahead and I will go back here.

This TDW's mod and his mod approach opened a new door to some old "impossible to do" mod ideas.

Yesterday I tried the planes fire damage: works flawless!

And the most good news: also that old wanted mod - depth charges making noise allowing you to escape (bold like effect) - seems to work ok too using the same TDW's mod approach. It need more tests and this is my problem now - free time. I will post more info as the mod goes ahead.

Kudos to TWD!

What about fires acting as a light source just as star shells in-game do? turn that dynamic shine orange-red and you have a really epic burning-tanker-effect.

TheDarkWraith · 03-14-11, 11:27 PM

I'll be releasing a new version of this soon. I've found a better way for the fires to cause damage to the ships that also causes flooding. Is it quite possible to see a ship sink due to flooding from fires now.

I've also added fire damage to airplanes. Any airplane that smokes and/or has fire emanating from it will sustain damage over time

Gargamel · 03-15-11, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I'll be releasing a new version of this soon. I've found a better way for the fires to cause damage to the ships that also causes flooding. Is it quite possible to see a ship sink due to flooding from fires now.

I've also added fire damage to airplanes. Any airplane that smokes and/or has fire emanating from it will sustain damage over time

Sooooo... Will I be able to sink a large ship by shooting the cargo on deck with the flak gun of my IIa? If so, I don't think that's a good idea (As much as I want to lol), and may take some more tweaking.

Note I am running this with GWX and a couple other mods with no problems right now. So good work all around!

Rubini · 03-15-11, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I'll be releasing a new version of this soon. I've found a better way for the fires to cause damage to the ships that also causes flooding. Is it quite possible to see a ship sink due to flooding from fires now.

I've also added fire damage to airplanes. Any airplane that smokes and/or has fire emanating from it will sustain damage over time

Hi TDW,

Some feedback:
Yesterday at night i made a round of test and i noticed that your file isn't working at all. Look, isn't the idea/implementation, the mod works flawless (and i also noticed that the ships don't flood, but will gain hit after hit until it explodes, sinking in two pieces). What isn't working is probably the particlegenerator node (i guess that you made it my hex, no?). For some reason Sh3 isn't "reading" it. So, please, just remake the file and its good to go!

(i remade it from yours using Hex/S3D and it's working)

Now returning to the theme, like i said, i also noticed that ships don't flood. I tried to put the virtual DC exploding more below water but no dice. Good to know that you achieve it!

Quote:

Sooooo... Will I be able to sink a large ship by shooting the cargo on deck with the flak gun of my IIa? If so, I don't think that's a good idea (As much as I want to lol), and may take some more tweaking.

Note I am running this with GWX and a couple other mods with no problems right now. So good work all around!

Yes, the ships will gain hit until explode (or sink by flood as TDW said above in the new version). This could sound a bit of so much always the same behaviour...but it's very slow and you can adjust the damage using S3D. Also the better way, is to make the fire_small and fire_big just burn for a time (actually they have a loop effect - they are on the particles.dat file). I adjusted mine for 15min/25min respectivelly and slow damage rate (by TWD mod)...so even if the fire extinguish, the ship have had , at least, some damage and so on. Very good and realistic, a new look for the game IMHO!

TheDarkWraith · 03-15-11, 02:04 PM

I make all my files using hex editor. I don't use, nor ever will use, S3D. Using that tool makes you forget how the file structure works. When you use hex editor you have to remember everything and it keeps you sharp and focused

S3D probably can't 'read' the file correctly due to some things I put into it. I've found ways to block S3D from reading my files or to 'confuse' it so that it reads them incorrectly. I can assure you that the mod is working correctly as I've tested it many times in SH3.

The new version of the mod (that I'll hopefully be releasing today) is a much improved version. The flooding part is exceptional (it works in SH5 so in theory it will work in SH3 - will find out later when I test it with SH3). Planes taking damage from fire is also exceptional

Will you be able to sink/destroy a ship from AA fire? Highly doubt it. A small fire will not take down a ship. It will cause some flooding but won't destroy it. Now depending on where the small fire happens it's possible that it can ignite other zones and cause them to 'go up in flames' and cause additional flooding. Where you place your deck gun shots with the new version is critical.

I might even add damage to the secondary explosions via my SH4 effects for SH3 mod. I've done this with SH5 and it works brilliantly! I have an FX mod for SH5 that adds debris, bodies, oil slicks, etc. just like I did for SH3. In the SH5 version when a fire is burning, at predetermined time intervals seconday explosions are triggered. These secondary explosions emit debris and cause damage to the ships. It's quite a sight to see a ship that is burning (and heavily damaged) suddenly explode into pieces after a secondary explosion happens

Rubini · 03-15-11, 03:06 PM

TDW,

Yes i know that (about hex and some files/nodes not reading by S3D intentionally).

What I'm saying is that in my installation (GWX and Stock) the original mod didn't worked at all until i replace the particlesgenerator nodes with a standard Sh3 ones. Well, always is possible that the problem could be at my end only...let's wait for others pp feedback too on the matter.

But what is important is that the mod idea works and very well!

Looking forward for new versions!

03-15-11, 06:11 PM

Purposely creating files so others tools don't work is just wrong.

Then to brag about it?
That would be like me saying in the SH5 threads that I'll code the upcomeing program to NOT work with anything TDW.
You know that can be done!

Schwieger · 03-15-11, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

The flooding part is exceptional (it works in SH5 so in theory it will work in SH3 - will find out later when I test it with SH3).

What exactly happens in this flooding part?

frau kaleun · 03-15-11, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Schwieger

What exactly happens in this flooding part?

The ship starts filling up with water, duh.

03-14-11, 08:00 AM	#1
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Hi guys, Cheers to all ! This is just brilliant! Thanks TDW for more this awesome mod. This is a good motivation to come back again to Sh3. I'm really without free time but more 2 or 3 months ahead and I will go back here. This TDW's mod and his mod approach opened a new door to some old "impossible to do" mod ideas. Yesterday I tried the planes fire damage: works flawless! And the most good news: also that old wanted mod - depth charges making noise allowing you to escape (bold like effect) - seems to work ok too using the same TDW's mod approach. It need more tests and this is my problem now - free time. I will post more info as the mod goes ahead. Kudos to TWD! __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve

03-15-11, 03:06 PM	#12
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	TDW, Yes i know that (about hex and some files/nodes not reading by S3D intentionally). What I'm saying is that in my installation (GWX and Stock) the original mod didn't worked at all until i replace the particlesgenerator nodes with a standard Sh3 ones. Well, always is possible that the problem could be at my end only...let's wait for others pp feedback too on the matter. But what is important is that the mod idea works and very well! Looking forward for new versions! __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve

03-14-11, 09:43 AM	#2
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	Yes this opens the door to many other possibilities. I'm working on fire damage to airplanes in SH5. Adding damage to my secondary explosions FX mod for SH5 also (can be done for SH3 also via my SH4 effects for SH3 mod)

03-14-11, 11:27 PM	#8
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	I'll be releasing a new version of this soon. I've found a better way for the fires to cause damage to the ships that also causes flooding. Is it quite possible to see a ship sink due to flooding from fires now. I've also added fire damage to airplanes. Any airplane that smokes and/or has fire emanating from it will sustain damage over time

03-15-11, 02:04 PM	#11
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	I make all my files using hex editor. I don't use, nor ever will use, S3D. Using that tool makes you forget how the file structure works. When you use hex editor you have to remember everything and it keeps you sharp and focused S3D probably can't 'read' the file correctly due to some things I put into it. I've found ways to block S3D from reading my files or to 'confuse' it so that it reads them incorrectly. I can assure you that the mod is working correctly as I've tested it many times in SH3. The new version of the mod (that I'll hopefully be releasing today) is a much improved version. The flooding part is exceptional (it works in SH5 so in theory it will work in SH3 - will find out later when I test it with SH3). Planes taking damage from fire is also exceptional Will you be able to sink/destroy a ship from AA fire? Highly doubt it. A small fire will not take down a ship. It will cause some flooding but won't destroy it. Now depending on where the small fire happens it's possible that it can ignite other zones and cause them to 'go up in flames' and cause additional flooding. Where you place your deck gun shots with the new version is critical. I might even add damage to the secondary explosions via my SH4 effects for SH3 mod. I've done this with SH5 and it works brilliantly! I have an FX mod for SH5 that adds debris, bodies, oil slicks, etc. just like I did for SH3. In the SH5 version when a fire is burning, at predetermined time intervals seconday explosions are triggered. These secondary explosions emit debris and cause damage to the ships. It's quite a sight to see a ship that is burning (and heavily damaged) suddenly explode into pieces after a secondary explosion happens

03-15-11, 06:11 PM	#13
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Purposely creating files so others tools don't work is just wrong. Then to brag about it? That would be like me saying in the SH5 threads that I'll code the upcomeing program to NOT work with anything TDW. You know that can be done!