Alexander Litvinenko Part II anybody?

[Jimbuna]

UPDATE: It is being reported that Sergei Skripal is no longer in a critical condition.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43671958

[Catfish]

^ This is good news, for him.

It seems the origin of the poison is still unclear.

[Jimbuna]

^Yeah but I'd like to see some evidence regarding how the UK government came to their conclusion, without compromising anyone of course.

[Catfish]

^ Only who knows will be the MI secret services, and they can tell the government what pleases them most.

[Jimbuna]

^True that

[Jimbuna]

Matters are becoming a tad silly now.

A bitter row has broken out between Labour and the Conservatives over their language and response to the nerve agent attack in Salisbury.

Boris Johnson accused Jeremy Corbyn of refusing to "unequivocally" blame the Russian state, describing him as "the Kremlin's useful idiot".

But Labour said Mr Johnson was the "idiot" having "undermined his own government's position" on the evidence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43686718

[Delgard]

Although mass casualties would overwhelm the system, be nice to hear that we learn medical treatments from this event.

Chem weapon, and cyber for that matter, are the near future for conflict. Whatever that all means...

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Matters are becoming a tad silly now.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43686718

They are both right 'in a way', though Labour is probably a bit wiser here.
On one hand England should speak with one determined voice.
On the other hand it is a bit idiotic to accuse Russia, expel dipplomats and do all to heaten up the international situation, without having evidence.

And all chime in, although the rest of the Anti-Russia club has even less evidence, or any knowledge on that matter. This is even more silly.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Delgard

Although mass casualties would overwhelm the system, be nice to hear that we learn medical treatments from this event.

Chem weapon, and cyber for that matter, are the near future for conflict. Whatever that all means...

This was just a door knob can you imagine what an air burst weapon of this stuff could do ... panic!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

They are both right 'in a way', though Labour is probably a bit wiser here.
On one hand England should speak with one determined voice.
On the other hand it is a bit idiotic to accuse Russia, expel dipplomats and do all to heaten up the international situation, without having evidence.

And all chime in, although the rest of the Anti-Russia club has even less evidence, or any knowledge on that matter. This is even more silly.

As far as I'm aware there has been talk of substantial intelligence gathered to back up the finger pointing to which we have not been privy, nor probably ever will.

[Catfish]

^ maybe.
And if you have been wrong it is better to save face than to admit a fail.
Especially if you misled the wole world to support your cause.

As you say we will never know. How could we, in a democracy where the secret services know much better what is good for us.

[Delgard]

It IS cool calculation. It is communication.




---How the communication occurs and what it is entails, well diplomats going home and oligarchs being sanctioned is probably not...fully the answer to eliminating such actions. It just means they try a different way and so that costs in money, labor, and attention. We, as a nation and neighbor in the neighborhood, just don't have those resources, repeatedly. The response should eliminate it from happening again.

The situation is the same in Syria with the use of chem.

[Jimbuna]

Yulia Skripal, the poisoned daughter of Russian ex-spy Sergei, has been discharged from hospital.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43710126

[Jimbuna]

OPCW confirms the obvious: the Skripals are confirmed to have been poisoned by a chemical agent of Russian origin, backing British claims.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43741140

The international chemical weapons watchdog has confirmed the UK's analysis of the type of nerve agent used in the Russian ex-spy poisoning.

The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons did not name the nerve agent as Novichok, but said it agreed with the UK's findings on its identity.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43741140

[Skybird]

Hi, Jim!