UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

It looks like they are trying to cover as many bases as possible.

[Jimbuna]

For anyone who questions why Jeremy Corbyn would be a dangerous Prime Minister? Here’s a list to start you off.

Not compiled by me but I am aware of a majority of the listing.

1)Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
2)Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
3)Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
4)Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
5)Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
6)Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
7)Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
8)Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
9)Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
10)Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
11)Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
12)Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
13)Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
14)Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
15)Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
16)Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
17)Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
18)Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
19)Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
20)Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
21)Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
22)Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
23)Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
24)Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
25)Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
26)Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
27)Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
28)Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
29)Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
30)Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
31)Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
32)Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
33)Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
34)Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
35)Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
36)Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
37)Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
38)Opposed shoot to kill.
39)Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
40)Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
41)Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
42)Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
43)Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
44)Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
45)Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
46)Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
47)Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
48)Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
49)Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
50)Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
51)Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
52)Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
53)Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
54)Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
55)Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
56)Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
57)Received endorsement from Hamas.
58)Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
59)Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
60)Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
61)Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
62)Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
63)Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
64)Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
65)Opposed proscription of Hizb UT-Tahrir.
66)Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
67)Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
68)Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
69)Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
70)Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
71)Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
72)Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
73)Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
74)Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
75)Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
76)Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
77)Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
78)Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
79)Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
80)Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
81)Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
82)Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
83)Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
84)Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
85)Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
86)Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
87)Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
88)Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
89)Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
90)Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
91)Voted against banning support for the IRA.
92)Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
93)Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
94)Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
95)Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
96)Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
97)Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
98)Voted against control orders.
99)Voted against increased funding for the security services.

[Skybird]

Wowh... Impressive record...


I knew he was bad, but not that he was this much badderthanbad

[Jimbuna]

We;;. if the above is accurate and true and I'm confident much of it is, I reckon that makes him a dangerous person who is seriously unfit to lead the UK.

[JU_88]

Yeah slight Correction on putting that that Wealth and Power where it belongs, they mean:
from the few, to the even fewer (them selves) then trust they will do the right thing by the 'many' though their progressive/neo marxist lense where your level of oppression and need of equity can be more or less calulated by your race, gender identity, relegion and clinically unproven mental disorders, whether or not you were read bed time stories as a child etc
What could possibly go wrong?
At least if they won it would be entertaining to watch with some popcon (assuming I'm still able to buy some :P)
Honestly, I dont know really what to make of labor at this point.

[Jimbuna]

MPs will elect John Bercow's successor as Speaker of the House of Commons later in the first election for the powerful post in more than a decade.

The Speaker keeps order in Commons debates and calls MPs to speak.

Chris Bryant - former minister and shadow Commons leader; Labour MP for Rhondda since 2001
Harriet Harman - former minister and deputy Labour leader; Labour MP since 1982, for Peckham and its successor constituency Camberwell
Meg Hillier - chairwoman of the Public Accounts Committee and former minister; Labour MP for Hackney South and Shoreditch since 2005
Sir Lindsay Hoyle - elected Labour MP for Chorley in 1997; elected deputy Speaker in 2010
Dame Eleanor Laing - elected Conservative MP for Epping Forest in 1997; elected deputy Speaker in 2013
Sir Edward Leigh - Conservative MP for Gainsborough since 1983; former chairman of the Public Accounts Committee
Dame Rosie Winterton - elected Labour MP for Doncaster Central in 1997; former Labour chief whip; elected deputy Speaker in 2017
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50283826

Five are Labour and two are Tory.

I'm thinking it will be between Harman and Hoyle (both Labour) but will add a Tory, Laing as a long shot.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Catfish

UK stops fracking

Google translation from the 'Spiegel'

ELECTION STUNT NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.

[STEED]

Just looking at the big three leaders and I just have no faith in any of them, jim's post above covers the nameless one. Bojo has told lie after lie and his media side of him controls him more than his political side. As for Joe Swinson she clearly comes across lusting for power and if she gets in....

Out of that bad bunch I don't want any of them but I am going to get stuffed by one of them when the election results are in.

[Jimbuna]

Parties should not use the NHS as "a political weapon" in the election campaign, health service bosses say.

NHS Providers chief Chris Hopson said "over-dramatising NHS difficulties" or making "disingenuous" funding claims did the service "no favours".

Both the Tories and Labour are vowing to spend billions to improve care.

But Mr Hopson, who acts for health trust leaders in England, urged parties not to make "empty promises" or create "unrealistic expectations".

The long-term future of the NHS and social care is likely to be a key battleground in the run-up to the 12 December election.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50282333

Probably one of the most sensible things you'll read in the run up to the election.

[mapuc]

Have a question on your election system

The last 5-10 years I have been witness to some of your Prime Minister saying
It's time for the British people pick a new PM and to put a new Parliament together.

Does this mean your PM and the Parliament can be in charge forever...until the PM decide it's time for the British people to.... ??

Markus

[Jimbuna]

There must be an election every five years minimum.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

There must be an election every five years minimum.

Thank you

It's like here in Denmark, where the PM has the same right to put an election up and if s/he don't the election rules says every fourth year.

Markus

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Probably one of the most sensible things you'll read in the run up to the election.

All sides will tell a load of BS and the NHS is the biggest BS political football. People say to me you must vote....Why should I vote for these party's who BS and lie to me. To hell with them all, try telling the truth and no BS and I may cast my vote but until then clear off.


Speaking of BS.....

Jeremy Corbyn is urging voters to back him with a pledge to "get Brexit sorted" in six months if he becomes prime minister.

https://news.sky.com/story/general-e...ed-pm-11854419

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Thank you

It's like here in Denmark, where the PM has the same right to put an election up and if s/he don't the election rules says every fourth year.

Markus

The government can call an election earlier but it must be passed by a two thirds majority.

[Jimbuna]

Sir Lindsay Hoyle was confirmed as the new Commons Speaker, succeeding John Bercow. Hoyle won the election after four rounds of voting eliminated the other six candidates.



Good luck to the guy because he can't be any worse than his predecessor.

I found the whole election process quite entertaining, especially so as I was Face Timing my lad during it whilst he was watching it from his apartment in Jakarta.