[REL] Natural Sinking Mechanics - Page 66

Charlie901 · 03-16-12, 01:04 PM

Does this mod offer better/more natural sinking mechanics than the sinking mechanics in TMO 2.5?

DrBeast · 03-16-12, 03:26 PM

This mod is (was?) for 1.4 only. That being said, ships do sink slower in NSM.

Fish40 · 03-19-12, 09:35 AM

If IRC, both TMO, and RFB both use a "version" of NSM.

DrBeast · 03-19-12, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish40

If IRC, both TMO, and RFB both use a "version" of NSM.

TMO may have adapted bits and pieces, but is not really using a modified version of NSM. There was far too much work involved to port it over to 1.5. RFB, I think, use the concept of NSM in their damage model.

I have to admit, I do miss this mod

Bilge_Rat · 03-19-12, 02:12 PM

TMO uses the stock model, which is still flooding based, but TMO increased the flooding times by a factor of 3x over stock.

RFB's NYGM uses a custom made flooding model like NSM with additional floodable compartments for many of the ships.

I have been playing/testing both for the past 1-2 weeks and none is perfect, but that is a problem with the way the game is designed. The mods are fine, but there is only so much you can do.

TMO ships sink probably too quickly, but at least they look more natural going down. RFB probably has more realistic sinking times, but many times, the ships don't look as natural going down IMHO.

One easy fix to do is to mod the Data/Zones.cfg file to increase flooding time for all the ships. TMO used a factor of 3x, but the B.A.R.F. mod for SH5 used a factor of 10x. I have been experimenting with just increasing the flooding times 4.5x to 6x over stock and the results don't look half bad.

Here is a file I have been working on if someone wants to test it. It increases the TMO flooding times by about 2.5x to bring it up to 10x stock. Place it in your "Data" folder. Be sure to back up your existing "Zones.cfg" file first:

http://www.mediafire.com/?w03ue69hdj6761n

7499275 · 05-06-12, 01:25 PM

I downloaded and install NSM using JSGME or what ever its exact abrviation is called. But anyway, I went and played the artillary training mission because it has a merchant, I fired two torpedoes, one hit the very back (Stern?) and one just behind the middle.

Neither of them popped a hole in the hull, so I fire two more, one hits in the middle under the bridge, the seconed on the front ( bow? ) the front shot put a whole in the hull and she began to list and sink rather quickly, but there was no explosion, so all i need to know is. Did I install this mod right and is it working properly?

Sidekikd34 · 05-06-12, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7499275

I downloaded and install NSM using JSGME or what ever its exact abrviation is called. But anyway, I went and played the artillary training mission because it has a merchant, I fired two torpedoes, one hit the very back (Stern?) and one just behind the middle.

Neither of them popped a hole in the hull, so I fire two more, one hits in the middle under the bridge, the seconed on the front ( bow? ) the front shot put a whole in the hull and she began to list and sink rather quickly, but there was no explosion, so all i need to know is. Did I install this mod right and is it working properly?

You don't necessarily get a nice BOOM unless the ship is carrying an explosive cargo. Sinking is usually a good sign of damage being incurred... :-)

7499275 · 05-06-12, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidekikd34

You don't necessarily get a nice BOOM unless the ship is carrying an explosive cargo. Sinking is usually a good sign of damage being incurred... :-)

Alright thanks! ( so you think that the mod is working properly based on the given info? )

RFM1997 · 07-10-12, 08:14 AM

Guys, I really like SH5 and love to see ships sinking, so neat. The prob is that when I press in the download link, filefront says the file was not found...

Help PLZ!!!!

RFM1997 · 07-12-12, 05:24 PM

Sry to bump my pleas...

Plz upload the file somewhere :'/

stanger · 07-12-12, 05:59 PM

Oh, cmon!
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1306

lovec · 03-08-14, 09:40 AM

hi,

im new one here for all users of this mod witch version of this mode you like more light or classic?

Crannogman · 01-23-15, 02:15 AM

Is there a version of this for 1.5? I didn't realize until now that this version was 1.4 only. I just got through the Battle of Savo Island, and it was colorful. However, the cruisers were more-or-less immune to gunfire, I guess because they don't hit each other below the waterline particularly well; they did sink a few destroyers in short order, but I think that was critical-hit related.

TorpX · 01-23-15, 03:55 AM

If you have v1.5 of the game, you should go with one of the mega-mods. I use RFB, and it has it's own modifications. Chances are, much of what Werner learned, has since been deployed in the more recent mega-mods.

Crannogman · 01-23-15, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorpX

If you have v1.5 of the game, you should go with one of the mega-mods. I use RFB, and it has it's own modifications. Chances are, much of what Werner learned, has since been deployed in the more recent mega-mods.

Yeah, I just don't want to torpedo my current career

03-16-12, 03:26 PM	#977
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	This mod is (was?) for 1.4 only. That being said, ships do sink slower in NSM. __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!

03-19-12, 02:12 PM	#980
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	TMO uses the stock model, which is still flooding based, but TMO increased the flooding times by a factor of 3x over stock. RFB's NYGM uses a custom made flooding model like NSM with additional floodable compartments for many of the ships. I have been playing/testing both for the past 1-2 weeks and none is perfect, but that is a problem with the way the game is designed. The mods are fine, but there is only so much you can do. TMO ships sink probably too quickly, but at least they look more natural going down. RFB probably has more realistic sinking times, but many times, the ships don't look as natural going down IMHO. One easy fix to do is to mod the Data/Zones.cfg file to increase flooding time for all the ships. TMO used a factor of 3x, but the B.A.R.F. mod for SH5 used a factor of 10x. I have been experimenting with just increasing the flooding times 4.5x to 6x over stock and the results don't look half bad. Here is a file I have been working on if someone wants to test it. It increases the TMO flooding times by about 2.5x to bring it up to 10x stock. Place it in your "Data" folder. Be sure to back up your existing "Zones.cfg" file first: http://www.mediafire.com/?w03ue69hdj6761n __________________ Last edited by Bilge_Rat; 03-19-12 at 02:57 PM.

07-10-12, 08:14 AM	#984
RFM1997 Nub Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Can't Download!!!! Guys, I really like SH5 and love to see ships sinking, so neat. The prob is that when I press in the download link, filefront says the file was not found... Help PLZ!!!!

01-23-15, 02:15 AM	#988
Crannogman Watch Officer Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Posts: 343 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Is there a version of this for 1.5? I didn't realize until now that this version was 1.4 only. I just got through the Battle of Savo Island, and it was colorful. However, the cruisers were more-or-less immune to gunfire, I guess because they don't hit each other below the waterline particularly well; they did sink a few destroyers in short order, but I think that was critical-hit related. __________________ "The sea shall ride over her and she shall live in it like a duck" ~John Ericsson

03-16-12, 01:04 PM	#976
Charlie901 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 413 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Does this mod offer better/more natural sinking mechanics than the sinking mechanics in TMO 2.5?

03-19-12, 09:35 AM	#978
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	If IRC, both TMO, and RFB both use a "version" of NSM.

05-06-12, 01:25 PM	#981
7499275 A-ganger Join Date: May 2012 Location: In the middle of the pacific. Posts: 73 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I downloaded and install NSM using JSGME or what ever its exact abrviation is called. But anyway, I went and played the artillary training mission because it has a merchant, I fired two torpedoes, one hit the very back (Stern?) and one just behind the middle. Neither of them popped a hole in the hull, so I fire two more, one hits in the middle under the bridge, the seconed on the front ( bow? ) the front shot put a whole in the hull and she began to list and sink rather quickly, but there was no explosion, so all i need to know is. Did I install this mod right and is it working properly?

07-12-12, 05:24 PM	#985
RFM1997 Nub Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Sry to bump my pleas... Plz upload the file somewhere :'/

07-12-12, 05:59 PM	#986
stanger Engineer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Poland Posts: 200 Downloads: 84 Uploads: 0	Oh, cmon! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1306

03-08-14, 09:40 AM	#987
lovec Bilge Rat Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 1 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	hi, im new one here for all users of this mod witch version of this mode you like more light or classic?

01-23-15, 03:55 AM	#989
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	If you have v1.5 of the game, you should go with one of the mega-mods. I use RFB, and it has it's own modifications. Chances are, much of what Werner learned, has since been deployed in the more recent mega-mods.