UK Politics Thread

[Skybird]

On the NHS' misery: https://mises.org/blog/does-britain-...gnore-outcomes

[STEED]

UKIP News..

Beverly Martin defection: UKIP loses control of its only council

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-40691149

Yes again..

UKIP to probe AM's racial slur about black MP Chuka Umunna

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-40693162

UKIP like the Tories and Labour are tearing themselves apart and only the LibDems seem not too but no one gives a hoot about them.

[Jimbuna]

Some food for thought in the video contained within this article.

Why did (almost) everyone call the election wrong (again)?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40633025

[bertieck476]

I see Jeremy Corbyn is now back pedalling on one of his election bribes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40697326

[STEED]

Originally Posted by bertieck476

I see Jeremy Corbyn is now back pedalling on one of his election bribes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40697326

During the campaign, the Labour leader said he would "deal with" the issue of graduates burdened with debt since tuition fees rose to £9,000.

Not sure if that is true as his wording is open to interpretation.

[STEED]

Scottish Conservative Leader Ruth Davidson has warned the UK government it must show greater leadership if it wants to survive.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-40699161

Butch Ruth gunning for the No.1 spot?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by STEED

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-40699161

Butch Ruth gunning for the No.1 spot?

Not a hope in hell whilst David Davis and Boris Johnson are still drawing breath.

[Jimbuna]

This guy must be a serious contender for blithering idiot of Westminster....he simply can't help himself

A traditional Maori greeting could be mistaken "in a pub in Glasgow", Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has joked.
On a visit to New Zealand, Mr Johnson thanked locals for teaching him the hongi greeting, in which people touch their noses together.
He said it was a "beautiful form of introduction - though it might be misinterpreted in a pub in Glasgow if you were to try it".

Responding to the Glasgow reference in Mr Johnson's joke, the SNP said he had "made a career out of travelling the globe with his foot firmly in his mouth".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40705216

[bertieck476]

Originally Posted by STEED

Not sure if that is true as his wording is open to interpretation.

It was very clear at the time how it was being interpreted, with labours better than expected results partly due to the younger vote turning out, maybe because they thought that tuition fees would be scrapped and there debt written off, perhaps they should have clarified the position at the time.
As it is, Jeremy's admission that they didn't know how much it would cost just enforces the fact that labour cannot be trusted with the economy.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by bertieck476

It was very clear at the time how it was being interpreted, with labours better than expected results partly due to the younger vote turning out, maybe because they thought that tuition fees would be scrapped and there debt written off, perhaps they should have clarified the position at the time.
As it is, Jeremy's admission that they didn't know how much it would cost just enforces the fact that labour cannot be trusted with the economy.

If it was made crystal clear wonder how many young voters would have bothered if Labour had no plans.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Not a hope in hell whilst David Davis and Boris Johnson are still drawing breath.

BJ is out the running for being a fruitcake and DD is not doing a grand Brexit. Big butch Ruth could rock the boat and look good in the modern voters eye.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by STEED

BJ is out the running for being a fruitcake and DD is not doing a grand Brexit. Big butch Ruth could rock the boat and look good in the modern voters eye.

I doubt the English voter would select a Scottish based politician.

Sad state of affairs IMHO but I honestly believe that to be the case.

[Jimbuna]

Plans to ban leaseholds on new-build houses in England

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40711013

Now this measure certainly has my support.

I remember back in the day when I first went into home ownership and my first property was subject to a lease which went up each year by 25% or more.

Just another measure by the financial institutions to wring more blood out of the stone.

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I doubt the English voter would select a Scottish based politician.

Sad state of affairs IMHO but I honestly believe that to be the case.

Agreed. The only way around that would be for Ruth to stand in an English constituency.

Unfortunately for her, if she "runs off to Westminster" it'll do a tremendous amount of harm for the Tory comeback in Scotland. It'll reinforce the idea that the party cares not a jot for this part of the UK. It does appear that she appreciates this:

Con Home article.

Ultimately, Davidson would serve Scotland better by staying put at Holyrood. If the Tories ever manage to form a workable administration there, then they might be able to repair the bridges and goodwill toward Scotland in the rest of the UK broken by the SNP. However that's a big ask - the voting system for Holyrood is designed specifically to prevent one party majority rule (2011 was a fluke result), thus enforcing coalitions (SLab's machinations again). At the moment, none of the other parties at the Scottish Parliament would be likely to support a Tory government. FPTP would be even worse due to likely voting patterns - 41% of Scotland's population live in the Western Central Belt with the result that's where most of Scotland's constituencies are concentrated. The political proclivities of that area would effectively guarantee a left wing one party state (Greater Weegiedonia?) under such a system.

The political right still has some way to go in Scotland.

Mike.

[Moonlight]

Ruth Davidson has hit the nail right on the head in this article, https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/408226...-rich-fatcats/ she would make a better PM than all those other muppet contenders if she'd just ride roughshod over those parasites who don't deserve their privileged status, put your name in the hat Ruthy babe and go and kick some Westminster ass.
Unfortunately she'll be corrupted almost immediately by her new found power and she'll backtrack on everything she's said in that article above.
It won't be long before the working class will say enough's enough and start downing tools, so go on Ruth grow a pair and put into practice what you preach.