US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Reece

Then there is tunneling!!

Ironically, at the Time Trump came down here to CA, new tunnels were found under the existing border barrier, which is very, very similar to the design Trump currently appears to be touting; and, just a day or so ago, a boat carrying about a dozed and a half illegals came ashore near Huntington Beach, about 100 miles north of the border; the authorities capture 12 of the illegals; of the twelve, 10 were Chinese nationals:

12 People Detained After Arriving on Boat in Huntington Beach; Homeland Security Investigating: Officials --

https://ktla.com/2019/01/28/crews-re...ing-evaluated/


Someone in a prior post made a comment about how California had a border barrier and it appeared to be working...

...or not, maybe...











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[FullMetalADCAP]

Originally Posted by Reece

Then there is tunneling!!

There are ground sensors that can pick up subterranean disturbances beneath the ground that could be deployed every so many yards that trigger a zone alarm. We had them at the prison for that same purpose.

[FullMetalADCAP]

Originally Posted by vienna

Hmm, I guess we should all follow the great example of Trump and go bankrupt four times over, totally screw-up a cash cow like a casino, have banks refuse to even do business with us, be sued by thousands of contractors and vendors for non-payment of debts, take credit for books we didn't even write (when asked about Trump's literary efforts, his publisher said Trump 'never even wrote a post card for us'), etc., etc,..

Trump as a 'role model' for success, much less for integrity and honesty is a really long stretch...

...almost Pinocchio-like...

The man is an idiot who was born into wealth and depended on his father to bail him out of his failures, and, by most metrics, far more fo a failure than a rousing success; I'm probably in better final financial shape than he is and I'm hurting; he is what the call in Texas "All hat and no cattle". The guy is in hock up to and beyond his eyeballs, and is actively trying to turn his stay in the White House into a personal profit making venture; he's not even waiting til he's out of office to try and cash in. The level of sliminess and corruption of Trump is beyond even the worst of past Presidents. But the prospect for his house made of the tissues of lies to come down and take him with it are very, very high...

As his minions are individually indicted and or convicted, the trail leads ever closer to his door, and, as his gross mismanagement and disregard for common ethics and law becomes more and more apparent, he'll only have whatever sad, little minions chose to ride down the sinking hulk of his sad, pathetic "presidency" and whatever Trumpette lemmings who will still follow him. The rest of us will say good riddance and go on with normal lives...




BTW, have you heard of all the failed Trump projects in his past? Here are just a few:

Collapse Of The Deal: Trump Branded Projects That Fell Apart -

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jennife.../#79cec7d5a822


...and I wasn't aware Nancy Pelosi has a wall around her home, but if she does, it shows she at least knows how to get one built and finished; maybe Trump should hire her as a project manager...










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Yes, I'm well aware of your seething hatred for the President. Failure though? Um, okay.

He's only the most powerful man in the entire world right now. I wouldn't call that failure. His daddy didn't buy him into the White House like Kennedy's daddy did. Trump made way more money off his father's investment in him than his father originally gave him. He's filed bankruptcy as a strategic financial move. So would you when dealing with large amounts of money and investments that didn't plan out. Only an idiot wouldn't in the same situation. I don't see that as him failing, I see that as him using the bankruptcy laws smartly and to his advantage. After all, that's what they are there for. He's built way more physical structures than Hillary ever has and taken on way more financial risk than her. No wonder she doesn't have bankruptcy on her record. She never took any financial risks. She didn't have to. She had a husband pave her way into politics, riding in holding onto his coat tails.

Trump takes risks and makes investments. He's a mover and shaker. That's what Trump supporters like about him. His tenacity has made him very rich over the decades. How you see failure in that is just mind boggling to me. I think you just hate him for being a Republican. If he ran as a Dem, you'd be praising him I suspect.

You want to talk failure? Hillary was a failure. She's lost what 2 or 3 times now trying to get the job that Trump got on his first attempt and without a political background? And he won with the media HIGHLY opposed to him while she was getting tons of praise. And she spent way more than he did on political ads. That wasn't risk investment on her part. That was just plain stupid and wasteful spending when she was always suspected of being the one that was going to win in a landslide. So why was she spending so much on political ads to run on TV compared to Trump? Because she's a failure idiot, that's why!

I just wish there was a video of her going into absolute rage mode on the night of her defeat. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall seeing that. You just know she went into a crazed rage mode also. It was even reported she began throwing things around the room and screaming like a complete lunatic.

It was also reported she did the same thing when she found out Bill cheated on her with Monica years before. I remember he showed up on TV with a gash on his head and he lied to America again and said he hurt himself to cover for his crazy psycho wife but WH staff had reported when they left office that she had thrown a table lamp at him in an ugly rage that hit him in the head. After Bill's MANY lies to our country (ole slick Willy) I'm convinced the WH staff isn't lying and she actually committed domestic violence against Bill, the POTUS back then. But hey, let's let her talk about toxic masculinity how more needs to be done to protect women!

[eddie]

Aww, same tired old BS about Clinton, always a Trumpette tactic. Poor babies, can't come up with anything that makes sense when defending that POS in the White House! Mover and a shaker,LOL The only thing that shakes is his big head when he has a tantrum!! He can't even move his bowels without Graham or McConnell helping him!!

[FullMetalADCAP]

Originally Posted by eddie

Aww, same tired old BS about Clinton, always a Trumpette tactic. Poor babies, can't come up with anything that makes sense when defending that POS in the White House! Mover and a shaker,LOL The only thing that shakes is his big head when he has a tantrum!! He can't even move his bowels without Graham or McConnell helping him!!

Tell us how you REALLY feel eddie!

Speaking of "same tired old BS" ...
What is it with you and all the homosexual references to the president with another man? Is this your own insecurities about your own sexuality coming out in spits and spats on here? (calming understanding voice) And it's ok if it is. Don't be afraid to take that next step and open that closet door. We're here for you eddie!

[Buddahaid]

So now it comes to personal attacks. I should report that post.

[FullMetalADCAP]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

So now it comes to personal attacks. I should report that post.

The one where he calls me and other Trump supporters "Trumpettes" and "poor babies?" Or my questioning his continuation of bigoted and "homophobic" usage of the act of homosexuality to try to put down President Trump and other Republican officials with me spinning that nonsense right back around on him? Hmm, who's really being the offensive one?

[Buddahaid]

Really? Those are not personal attacks and amount to the same thing as calling anybody on the left of the far right snowflakes. I don't like that but it's not personal.

[FullMetalADCAP]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Really? Those are not personal attacks and amount to the same thing as calling anybody on the left of the far right snowflakes. I don't like that but it's not personal.

I'll admit the name calling wasn't as offensive as his continued and blatant usage of homosexual references to offend Trump supporters on here. When you use homosexual references to demean someone, it's bigoted and homophobic is it not? Because you're basically saying that such people and the act they perform is wrong.

And this is the Left's own rules about homosexuality as a matter of fact. So I'm using the Left's own rule book and tactics against the Leftists that can't even follow their side's own rules and tactics about not disparaging people of the LGBT community! I only did what he did by spinning his LGBT bigotry right back on him with a bit of mental reverse judo.

Where did I call anyone a snowflake? Or even a name at all? I just called him out on his homophobia and hopefully taught him a lesson that that's not cool bruh. I mean, if you're going to be a Leftist, you got to follow their rules and be a Leftist.

I believe part of why Trump won so soundly is because so many Leftists, including Hillary, were stumped on their own hypocrisy. Things she said in the past about black men being "super predators" and then suddenly she's this black-supporting angel? Many black men didn't buy it. People don't like the "do as I say, not as I do" folks that much. Hillary is why Hillary lost the election.

And I do think calling someone a "snowflake" is a personal attack on them. You're basically calling them a weak/fragile person. It's a term used to be demeaning towards people is it not? It should be taken offensively and considered as such.

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[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

And who would be the sponsor of this revolution and endless war?

The west ofcourse, just like in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia and so on.
I mean you are talking about western humanitarian intervention, no?

P.s. gonna attend an INF related event tomorrow, can be good.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

The west ofcourse, just like in Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia and so on.
I mean you are talking about western humanitarian intervention, no? [...]

You got to admit that the US sell it to the world in a more successfull way, than e.g. Russia

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Catfish

You got to admit that the US sell it to the world in a more successfull way, than e.g. Russia

US is the current global hegemon after all.


Atleast the current crisis in Venezuela does not look like the Suez did for the British and French.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

So now it comes to personal attacks. I should report that post.

No need, other reports have been received so I'll make one request for civility and also remind ALL post contributors that name calling and personal attacks will not be tolerated. If anyone is unsure then simply refer to the forum rules: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq....faq_ad_hominem

Keep discussions civil
When discussing a topic, be civil. Agree or disagree with someone but do not attack them, explain your point of view and use facts, logic and persuasion to engage them. No trolling, gif-baiting, or Ad Hominem attacks.

Thanks in advance.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by FullMetalADCAP

I trust the President knows a bit about the process and what is needed to make a quality wall.

I suspect that Trump has never taken Acquisition 101 nor is listening to anyone who had.

There is still a lot of stuff that has to be done before this wall can even be started. I hope that Trump does think that once congress appropriates the money that he can sole source a contract and start laying bricks the next week.

For a major acquisition effort like this, even if it gets an "emergency" priority has about a year's worth of reporting, evaluating, specing, more research before they can get to anywhere close to a contract. There are requirements that need to be investigated and documented, alternatives evaluated, designed that need to be finalized and a formal acquisition plan to be approved. All this takes time.

This is even ignoring the currently filed court cases which will also slow this down.

I seriously doubt that Trump is aware or even cares about how major acquisition programs are handled in the government. It is not the same as civilians building a hotel.

[Mr Quatro]

I love Trump, but what if the wall goes way past the projected $5.7 billion dollar cost? Some estimates go as high as $21 billion dollars.

I see the need for a wall (or the wall), but as long as Trump is fighting a losing battle, even in his own conservative party, he should just settle for half of the requested $5.7 billion.
Then order the wall to be constructed just on the Mexico/Texas side of the border till he can prove that the wall works.

If the left wing party of naysayers don't agree ... They lose now and in 2020.