Community Ships mod? - Page 4

mengle · 11-24-08, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by piri_reis

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Originally Posted by mengle

I add those ships manually , and some of them cause CTD in Museum, i deleted the troublemakers, but in campaign when you come close to action or harbor you have still a CTD, I think some SH IV ships for SHIII just doesn't work on some computers

Sad, because i like to have them in my game

Regarding imported SH4 ships, I got them from here: http://hosted.filefront.com/Maik01/2118683/
My PC is Core2duo 3Ghz, 2GB Ram, 8800GT
I tested them docked at port, sailing in convoy, museum, even torpedoed some, here's my working list so far:

Just a few neccessary tweaks (eg: for the ones that have aircraft, airgroup must be changed to FBZero; NCL_Kuma engine power increased, etc.) They work perfectly on my install, but just like the CommunityUnits, this depends on install/pc specs perhaps :hmm:

My PC is 7 years old: Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.90 GHz, 1GB Ram , 7800 GS and 1024 virtual memory, That means i buy another next year

asanovic7 · 11-24-08, 11:32 AM

No matter if I embarass myself I have to ask..

Isn't cfg file entries necessary only for single player missions?

p.s. piri reis, again you.. Damn semih, or what his name is..

piri_reis · 11-24-08, 11:45 AM

The cfg file inside /data/sea/shipname have very important information, is used by the game engine to setup the game no matter career/single player. Eg. classname, unittype, 2DCompartments(?)
The one in /roster/country tells sh3 that the country has one of those ship types, and lists real ship names and their appearance dates and such.

ps: Yes it was Semih (the wizard I call him)

And he actually plays for our biggest rival here. I root for Galatasaray, he plays for Fenerbahce, who beat us again last week.

asanovic7 · 11-24-08, 11:55 AM

aaa..

I understood you speak about englishnames.cfg..

p.s. well, go on fener!! Vedran Runje! Khazim Khazim, open up sezame!!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

piri_reis · 11-24-08, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by asanovic7

aaa..I understood you speak about englishnames.cfg..

Oh yes that too

I'm pretty sure every ship you have in your install must be listed in the englishnames.cfg. OR the game will CTD. The entry will be used to display the ship type/name in bunch of places, when you identify it for example..

ps; Check out the score of Porto-fener this week, I reckon it will be a disaster for them and a funny game to watch for me

asanovic7 · 11-24-08, 12:18 PM

You are just jealous..

iambecomelife · 11-24-08, 07:38 PM

For people getting CTD's with modded merchant ships, here is one possible solution.

If the CTD occurs when the merchantman suffers damage then the ship probably has the infamous Mast Collapse Bug. This occurs in a small percentage of vessels cloned using Pack3d (currently I test all my ships for it before releasing them). There is a solution:

1) Open data\zones.cfg with MSWord, Notepad, or a similar program.

2) Search for the "mast" entry. It should look something like this:

[Mast]
Multiplier=1.000000
Flotability=0.000000
HitPoints=8
Destructible=Yes
Effect1=#Small_splinter_explosion_no_halo, 100
Armor Level=-1
Critic Flotation=0.300000
Critical=No
FloodingTime=59.999996
CargoType=None

3) Change it to:

[Mast]
Multiplier=1.000000
Flotability=0.000000
HitPoints=8
Destructible=No
Effect1=#Small_splinter_explosion_no_halo, 100
Armor Level=-1
Critic Flotation=0.300000
Critical=No
FloodingTime=59.999996
CargoType=None

The downside is that all masts ingame will now be indestructible. However, you will never get the crash bug. Note that there are probably additional reasons for crashes, so this may not resolve all issues. And remember to back up your files.

11-26-08, 03:56 AM

Yes it's easy to tell where the problem is when u hit a ship with a torp and then get a CTD. But some ppl are getting CTD's almost after load up of the game. That is weird.
I was experiencing the same problems with POTD ships mod, which was used by steel sharks online campaign community with stock SH3. I did on purpose my own single mission to test it, had put various ships in it, validated successfuly and saved. After load up it did not crashed directly, but some time later, as if some bugged ship came into sight and then CTD occured. And this happened all the time when I tried again and again at almost the same time..

So for me this mod is still like "use it for your own risk if you don't care saving your nerves on CTDs.."

If IABL or the person who intergrates these ships into campain would guarantee it is safe to use I would deffinettly use it. But for now I don't want to get frustrated in the middle of perfect patrol because of CTD's risk..

Philipp_Thomsen · 11-26-08, 08:29 AM

I tested the community ships. I have them installed for ages and I don't have any CTD.

I built up a single mission with all the ships in the game, including the community ships (yeah, 200 ships convoy), and I sailed with them for hours, no bug. Then I took my 10 km distance, fired a nuclear torpedo which vanished all 200 ships (and some out of the water). All sank, Titanic was the last to sink, pretty flotable. Life boats everywhere, debris everywhere, not a single CTD in 10 times running this mission and nuking them.

My system:

C2D 4700
4gb DDR2 800
GF 9600GT 512
500GB sata2
Asus MB
Vista Ultimate 64 bits.

Philipp_Thomsen · 11-26-08, 08:33 AM

By the way, I'm using my NIDS mod, which changes the BASIC.CFG and ZONES.CFG, so I don't know if this has something to do with the game being stable with the community ships mod.

mengle · 11-26-08, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

I tested the community ships. I have them installed for ages and I don't have any CTD.

I built up a single mission with all the ships in the game, including the community ships (yeah, 200 ships convoy), and I sailed with them for hours, no bug. Then I took my 10 km distance, fired a nuclear torpedo which vanished all 200 ships (and some out of the water). All sank, Titanic was the last to sink, pretty flotable. Life boats everywhere, debris everywhere, not a single CTD in 10 times running this mission and nuking them.

My system:

C2D 4700
4gb DDR2 800
GF 9600GT 512
500GB sata2
Asus MB
Vista Ultimate 64 bits.

200 ships

badwolf · 11-26-08, 10:00 AM

I have been running the AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix & Community units with no CTD's. Because I always merge my conflicting mods, any errors are found and corrected. These errors do not neccessarily cause problems but its best to have it right. IIRC these are the errors to date:-

The AA ships - I've already mentioned AAAG1=Flak Ship 01 & AAAB1=British AA Ship 01 missing from the EnglishNames.cfg when the 2 mods above are installed.

Community units - Sea/F02B_ ...... the file F03B__ge.log needs deleting.

Community units - Sea/NF_boat_Y/NF_boat_Y_sil.tga ..... missing

These are a few I can remember.

nikbear · 11-26-08, 02:02 PM

Thats the kind of info we need BadWolf,so if its a matter of adding stuff or deleting from the sea folder then thats easily done,if its more serious then that,then it takes some of the more intelligent members of the community to take a look at the conflicts and perhaps iron them out,no one wants to lose the CS mod,they look ace,but I have had to stop using the AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix just to get the game anyway stable for some reason,and it irks the hell out of me,just wish I could find out how to get them to run together on my system in harmony like the majority of others seem to:hmm:but a small but sizeable number are having problems,time for better minds than mine to have a look hopefully

badwolf · 11-26-08, 03:08 PM

Having had no ctd's with the mods has it's problems, I can't find why others do. I would be happy to upload AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix & Community units (merged) but it needs testing with someone who is having problems and giving feedback.

I did 14 patrols saving 3 - 5 times per patrol and not 1 ctd.

11-26-08, 08:26 PM

The units in the Community Mod share SO MANY ID's
it's a 2 day job to sort them.

Now, many people have no problems with that on thier
system.

But it's been proven over and over.
Duplicate ID's are a fantastic way to introduce
RANDOM CTDS!!

Each and every unit in this mod should be adjusted to make it
100% safe for any install.

Other then takeing that step?
it's a Crap Shoot!!

11-24-08, 11:32 AM	#47
asanovic7 Captain Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 515 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	?? No matter if I embarass myself I have to ask.. Isn't cfg file entries necessary only for single player missions? p.s. piri reis, again you.. Damn semih, or what his name is..

11-24-08, 11:45 AM	#48
piri_reis Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Istanbul, Turkiye Posts: 715 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	The cfg file inside /data/sea/shipname have very important information, is used by the game engine to setup the game no matter career/single player. Eg. classname, unittype, 2DCompartments(?) The one in /roster/country tells sh3 that the country has one of those ship types, and lists real ship names and their appearance dates and such. ps: Yes it was Semih (the wizard I call him) And he actually plays for our biggest rival here. I root for Galatasaray, he plays for Fenerbahce, who beat us again last week. __________________ Lt.z.S. Barbaros Hayreddin, U-35, 2nd Flot/Kiel, Type VIIB Oct.29.1939, 2nd Patrol Eastern English Waters Running SH5/TWOS

11-24-08, 11:55 AM	#49
asanovic7 Captain Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 515 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	argh aaa.. I understood you speak about englishnames.cfg.. p.s. well, go on fener!! Vedran Runje! Khazim Khazim, open up sezame!! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

11-24-08, 12:18 PM	#51
asanovic7 Captain Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 515 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	argh You are just jealous..

11-24-08, 07:38 PM	#52
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,589 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	For people getting CTD's with modded merchant ships, here is one possible solution. If the CTD occurs when the merchantman suffers damage then the ship probably has the infamous Mast Collapse Bug. This occurs in a small percentage of vessels cloned using Pack3d (currently I test all my ships for it before releasing them). There is a solution: 1) Open data\zones.cfg with MSWord, Notepad, or a similar program. 2) Search for the "mast" entry. It should look something like this: [Mast] Multiplier=1.000000 Flotability=0.000000 HitPoints=8 Destructible=Yes Effect1=#Small_splinter_explosion_no_halo, 100 Armor Level=-1 Critic Flotation=0.300000 Critical=No FloodingTime=59.999996 CargoType=None 3) Change it to: [Mast] Multiplier=1.000000 Flotability=0.000000 HitPoints=8 Destructible=No Effect1=#Small_splinter_explosion_no_halo, 100 Armor Level=-1 Critic Flotation=0.300000 Critical=No FloodingTime=59.999996 CargoType=None The downside is that all masts ingame will now be indestructible. However, you will never get the crash bug. Note that there are probably additional reasons for crashes, so this may not resolve all issues. And remember to back up your files. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

11-26-08, 03:56 AM	#53
Contact Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Yes it's easy to tell where the problem is when u hit a ship with a torp and then get a CTD. But some ppl are getting CTD's almost after load up of the game. That is weird. I was experiencing the same problems with POTD ships mod, which was used by steel sharks online campaign community with stock SH3. I did on purpose my own single mission to test it, had put various ships in it, validated successfuly and saved. After load up it did not crashed directly, but some time later, as if some bugged ship came into sight and then CTD occured. And this happened all the time when I tried again and again at almost the same time.. So for me this mod is still like "use it for your own risk if you don't care saving your nerves on CTDs.." If IABL or the person who intergrates these ships into campain would guarantee it is safe to use I would deffinettly use it. But for now I don't want to get frustrated in the middle of perfect patrol because of CTD's risk..

11-26-08, 08:29 AM	#54
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I tested the community ships. I have them installed for ages and I don't have any CTD. I built up a single mission with all the ships in the game, including the community ships (yeah, 200 ships convoy), and I sailed with them for hours, no bug. Then I took my 10 km distance, fired a nuclear torpedo which vanished all 200 ships (and some out of the water). All sank, Titanic was the last to sink, pretty flotable. Life boats everywhere, debris everywhere, not a single CTD in 10 times running this mission and nuking them. My system: C2D 4700 4gb DDR2 800 GF 9600GT 512 500GB sata2 Asus MB Vista Ultimate 64 bits. __________________ To each his own

11-26-08, 08:33 AM	#55
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	By the way, I'm using my NIDS mod, which changes the BASIC.CFG and ZONES.CFG, so I don't know if this has something to do with the game being stable with the community ships mod. __________________ To each his own

11-26-08, 10:00 AM	#57
badwolf XO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 427 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	I have been running the AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix & Community units with no CTD's. Because I always merge my conflicting mods, any errors are found and corrected. These errors do not neccessarily cause problems but its best to have it right. IIRC these are the errors to date:- The AA ships - I've already mentioned AAAG1=Flak Ship 01 & AAAB1=British AA Ship 01 missing from the EnglishNames.cfg when the 2 mods above are installed. Community units - Sea/F02B_ ...... the file F03B__ge.log needs deleting. Community units - Sea/NF_boat_Y/NF_boat_Y_sil.tga ..... missing These are a few I can remember. Last edited by badwolf; 11-26-08 at 10:19 AM.

11-26-08, 02:02 PM	#58
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Thats the kind of info we need BadWolf,so if its a matter of adding stuff or deleting from the sea folder then thats easily done,if its more serious then that,then it takes some of the more intelligent members of the community to take a look at the conflicts and perhaps iron them out,no one wants to lose the CS mod,they look ace,but I have had to stop using the AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix just to get the game anyway stable for some reason,and it irks the hell out of me,just wish I could find out how to get them to run together on my system in harmony like the majority of others seem to:hmm:but a small but sizeable number are having problems,time for better minds than mine to have a look hopefully __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

11-26-08, 03:08 PM	#59
badwolf XO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 427 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Having had no ctd's with the mods has it's problems, I can't find why others do. I would be happy to upload AOTD-AA-Ship-Schleuse-Bugfix & Community units (merged) but it needs testing with someone who is having problems and giving feedback. I did 14 patrols saving 3 - 5 times per patrol and not 1 ctd. Last edited by badwolf; 11-26-08 at 03:18 PM.

11-26-08, 08:26 PM	#60
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	The units in the Community Mod share SO MANY ID's it's a 2 day job to sort them. Now, many people have no problems with that on thier system. But it's been proven over and over. Duplicate ID's are a fantastic way to introduce RANDOM CTDS!! Each and every unit in this mod should be adjusted to make it 100% safe for any install. Other then takeing that step? it's a Crap Shoot!!