UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by STEED

I agree jim, there is far too much BS on the Internet and media put around by who ever is standing on the stay in and leave the EU. I keep telling people politicians are a right royal pain in the backside but don't get whipped up by the BS on the Internet and mass media which is making them focus on that. Stuff that and get your focus on your MP and government of the day.



Moving on to PMQ's

I have noticed old JC can deliver a blow but he always fluffs up his follow up allowing PM May to rally from his blow and come out punching all the way resulting in a knock out every week. JC is weak bloody minded numskull that just can not see he and his loony lot have wrecked the Labour party.

'It's called leadership, he should try it'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/c/uk-politics-38664392

[Jimbuna]

Probably the first time I've heard this guy speaking some political sense.

Juncker drops HUGE hint that EU will seek deal that keeps Britain IN the bloc post-Brexit

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...nsitional-deal

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

'It's called leadership, he should try it'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/c/uk-politics-38664392

JC needs to read this...

[Jimbuna]

That's not fair....the guy is probably illiterate

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Probably the first time I've heard this guy speaking some political sense.



http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...nsitional-deal

I think too much is beeing red into that line Juncker gets quoted with. If you look soberly at it, he just included the possibility that Britain will not carry out Brexit at all - in which case the British MEP indeed would continue to be in the EU institutions and offices, since then nothing would have chnaged and Britain still would be full EU member.

Think of it, the EU is desperate. They want Britain to not leave at all cost, and want Britain to allow unregulated migration at all cost. Any special deal accepted for Britain - would set many other EU countries in the East on fire. And you know how hot an issue unregulated migration and unregulated freedom of movement already is.

The threat to establish a low-tax paradise in britain also has rung alarm bells in the EU headquarters. You can see that in the Germans' intense warnings that Britain "cannot afford that financially" (Schäuble). A new Cayman Island low tax regime - right on the other side of the channel? That is like nuclear missiles on Cuba just offshore Florida.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

That's not fair....the guy is probably illiterate

[Skybird]

Gunnar Heihnsohn's laconic - and true - comment on May's speech, and why Europe must choose between the German way and the British offer, and why the Brits have more to offer than Germany and France together.

IN GERMAN. Sorry. You can try bot-translations, but you know what that means.

LINK - Germany wants to punish, Britain smiles

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Gunnar Heihnsohn's laconic - and true - comment on May's speech, and why Europe must choose between the German way and the British offer, and why the Brits have more to offer than Germany and France together.

IN GERMAN. Sorry. You can try bot-translations, but you know what that means.

LINK - Germany wants to punish, Britain smiles

I can only point back to :

The UK imports more from the EU than she exports and should said tariffs be imposed, a mirrored response would no doubt be the immediate result/consequence and I can't see BMW or Mercedes car workers (as an example) warming to Merkel for allowing this to happen. You could of course site a great many industries to the same test.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=5831

[MGR1]

(Scotland) North-east fishing fleet to sail the Thames in Brexit protest:

https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp...flotilla-mkii/

(UK as a whole) Theresa May 'betrays fishermen by using them as bargaining chip in EU Brexit negotiations'

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/755...ota-Article-50

Sheep producers voice fears over ‘hard’ Brexit:

http://www.fwi.co.uk/news/sheep-prod...ard-brexit.htm

I guess it depends on which industries the Tories deem to be expendable. It does appear the both the fishing and farming communities in the UK voted for Brexit in good faith and are now faced with some very unpalatable choices.

Farming - relied on cheap EU labour plus EU subsidies.

Fishing - EU biggest export market plus relied on EU subsidies and fishing agreements.

That's the thing about trade deals - how do you make (or break) them without screwing over part of your own economy? Now that the UK has to compete on it's own in the world, are the farming and fishing industries up to it?

Mike.

[MGR1]

Ah, I forgot to add that for the Scottish fishing fleet, at least, "Scottish" is a bit of a misnomer - a fair chunk of the crews are Filipino with native skippers and senior hands. Due to the nature of what's happened to the industry many of the young men from the likes of Fraserburgh and Peterhead either leave the area completely after school or are so high on drugs that no-one wants them aboard ship. Fraserburgh has one of the worst drug addiction levels in Scotland.

Mike.

[Jimbuna]

Why am I not surprised?

Former chancellor George Osborne is to join the world's largest fund manager, BlackRock, as a part-time adviser.
He starts on 1 February, providing "perspectives on European politics and policy, Chinese economic reform, and trends..." BlackRock said.
Mr Osborne, whose salary was not disclosed, will remain an MP, but will not be allowed to lobby the government.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38696175

[STEED]

Originally Posted by MGR1

Farming - relied on cheap EU labour plus EU subsidies.

Well that problem will be filled by the unemployed, hows that for a prediction.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Why am I not surprised?

Mr Osborne, whose salary was not disclosed, will remain an MP, but will not be allowed to lobby the government.

What a load of BS, yea direct lobbing may be out but in direct lobbing you can bet your rump that will happen.

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by STEED

Well that problem will be filled by the unemployed, hows that for a prediction.

That assumes the natives will actually be willing to give it a go. Some will, but more than a few won't I'd wager. It depends on how long it is before those particular roles are automated, anyway.

P.S. It might entertaining to try and lob Osbourne, just don't do your back in doing it though!

Mike.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by MGR1

That assumes the natives will actually be willing to give it a go. Some will, but more than a few won't I'd wager. It depends on how long it is before those particular roles are automated, anyway.

P.S. It might entertaining to try and lob Osbourne, just don't do your back in doing it though!

Mike.

I would not be surprised if these summer jobs will be done by the unemployed as the rules are even more tighter now when I was claiming a few years ago and that was bad enough. Not sure if this would be green lighted in Scotland.