Strike on North Korea

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Late this night before I turned my computer off I read an interesting article

This person had a more positiv view on NK and KJU

She said despite UN and USA sanction on NK its economy are growing(that what it was written in Danish)

They have for a quite a while been bunkering oil for all eventuality

They will not at any cost stop they nuclear program-Even if it mean they have to eat grass or drink fixed sea water. They will not stop

In fact it will be the civilians who will suffer, ´cause every coin NK earns during these sanction will go to the military and the nuclear program.

Markus

Eyup, they see their nuclear weapons as the only thing stopping the US from stomping them into the dust, and they're probably not wrong either. They'll never give them up, ever. The most you can hope for is agreeing on a number of weapons that they'll have, they might be willing to agree on that, but denuclearisation isn't going to happen.
KJU is trying to Deng the DPRKs economy, he's looked at how China has turned into an economic powerhouse and wants to try and do a similar thing to the DPRK, but he's got a bigger struggle than Deng had because the DPRK is a smaller and more isolated country than the PRC was when Deng took over.
In regards to bunkering oil, yeah, I think they've also got a coal to oil conversion program that they run too, so the oil sanctions won't really do jack...but then again ANY sanctions will do precisely jack because the DPRK will not ever give up its nuclear weapons. Even if a dove government came into power in the US, the DPRK won't listen, because American governments come and go, and what's said and done under one president or congress isn't likely to stay the same under the next...as Iran is finding out.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Even if a dove government came into power in the US, the DPRK won't listen, because American governments come and go, and what's said and done under one president or congress isn't likely to stay the same under the next...as Iran is finding out.

2 Samuel 20: 21-22

That's a lie! But there is a man from the Ephraim hill country—he's known as Bichri's son Sheba—who has rebelled against King David. Turn him over and I'll withdraw from the city!" So the woman replied, "Watch this! His head will be thrown to you over the city wall." Then the woman wisely went back to her people. They cut off the head of Bichri's son Sheba and threw it out to Joab, so Joab sounded his battle trumpet and they withdrew from the city. Everybody went back home and Joab returned to the king at Jerusalem.

What if President Trump should tweet ... "Throw his head over the wall"

[Skybird]

The question is not whether Northn Kporea has miniaturized a nuclear bomb so that it can be put into the tip of a ballistric missile. The real danger is that they find a way to miniaturize the essence of Kim's ego so much that it fits into said missile. Imagine this missile fired on an American city - the effect would be unimaginable!

[mapuc]

Been wondering after having read some of Skybirds comments and his answer to my comments

These sanction or embargo seems to have no effect at all

This give our leader four options

1. Keep on with these sanction and hope they will somewhere in the future have some impact on Nk's leadership

2 Put heavy pressure on China and perhaps Russia and hope this will help

3. Recognizing that North Korea is an atomic power and resuming negotiating economic and other matters with North Korea.

4. Refuse to allow North Korea to have nukes and goes to war against NK.

Is there more options our leaders can use to either prevent NK from getting their Nukes or have to start a war ?

Markus

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by me

Lil' Kim must decide if he's the DPRK's KwisatzHaderach or just plain ol fatboy

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

They cut off the head of Bichri's son Sheba and threw it out to Joab ....What if President Trump should tweet ... "Throw his head over the wall"

Originally Posted by Skybird

The real danger is that they find a way to miniaturize the essence of Kim's ego so much that it fits into said missile. Imagine this missile fired on an American city - the effect would be unimaginable!

Nah! Hollywood would just make a (revised) movie: Come Back Lil' Sheba, U Son of a Bichri
God knows! other 'heads of state' have been tossed around for 300 years or more! <Oliver Cromwell http://talesofcuriosity.com/v/CromwellsHead/

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

2 Samuel 20: 21-22

What if President Trump should tweet ... "Throw his head over the wall"

There would be a long pause...and a small note written in Korean would come over the wall, and it would say this:

"Firstly, only four people in North Korea have twitter, one of them being the Respected Dear Leader himself, and secondly, we've seen what happens to the generals who try to launch a coup against the Kim dynasty after we tried that back in 1995, the entire senior staff of the 6th corps was put in a building and the building was burnt down...and now the 6th corps no longer exists in DPRK records. So why should we risk our lives? Especially now that we have the upper hand in our nuclear deterrence arsenal. Nice try though."

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Now that bitcoin is the new 'spice' Lil' Kim must decide if he's the DPRK's Kwisatz Haderach or just plain ol fatboy ....floating around Rule 4: If 'money is the sinews of war' and Fatboy is forced to illegal money wire theft transfers and bitcoin stashes as has been demonstrated-he's in serious trouble already. http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/08/investing/north-korea-banks-swift-ban/index.html

North korea-might as well be another planet

THE HENNESSY MUST FLOW!!!

[Jimbuna]

On and on it goes....

North Korea threatens to sink Japan and turn US to 'ashes and darkness'

North Korea has threatened to sink Japan and said the US should be “beaten to death like a rabid dog” after the two countries spearheaded fresh UN security council sanctions in response to the regime’s recent nuclear test.

The Korea Asia-Pacific peace committee, which oversees North Korea’s relations with the outside world, described the UN security council, which passed a new round of sanctions on Monday, as a “tool of evil” in the pay of Washington, and called for it to be broken up.

“The four islands of the [Japanese] archipelago should be sunken into the sea by the nuclear bomb of Juche,” the committee said in a statement carried by the official KCNA news agency. Juche is the ideology of self-reliance pioneered by Kim Il-sung, the country’s founder and grandfather of the current leader, Kim Jong-un.

“Japan is no longer needed to exist near us,” the committee added.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ashes-darkness

[Rockstar]

sounds like a spoiled brat too me

[Moonlight]

There's only one way you're going to bring a spoiled brat into line and that is to punish its mother, which is China. Ahhh yes you might say, you're going to start a war with China now are you, No, of course not, the western governments will tell China that if they don't give this spoiled brat a clip round the earhole they'll stop buying any Chinese goods, it sounds simple enough but even that is fraught with danger.

The Chinese economy will crash and burn within a month and their Government won't want that to happen will they, it'll cause huge tension around the world and a lot of harsh words will be exchanged and some will never be forgotten but the point is that that's the better scenario than a nuclear war isn't it.

I don't think this will happen as its too radical an idea for one but which scenario would the western governments prefer first, an economic one or a nuclear one.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

On and on it goes....



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ashes-darkness

The West should just ignore that jumped up little twonk and never report on anything coming out of NK.

[Gargamel]

BBC News alert on my phone just said NK has launched another barrage of missiles, and Japan has started warning civilians to seek shelter.

[mapuc]

^ Have just read about it on the news

As mentioned before wonder what kind of response to these Sanction NK will come up with

Is this the answer ? Or is there more to come ?

Here are the article

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41275614

Markus

[Oberon]

One missile, similar trajectory to the last Japanese flyover, probably another Hwasong-12. Well, this is the new order, folks, best get used to it.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Oberon

One missile, similar trajectory to the last Japanese flyover, probably another Hwasong-12. Well, this is the new order, folks, best get used to it.

The question is

How far will this Hwasong-12 fly ? Same distance or longer ?

Edit: It fell or dropped somewhere in the Pacific

Markus