Steve's Models - Page 33

Sailor Steve · 03-08-14, 07:38 PM

Second kit is finally caught up with the first one. The second one has taught me something I didn't know before, mainly that early Martinsydes had rounded stabilizers. I already knew about the landing gear, which will show up shortly, but this one was new to me. It's funny that I should end up with two, because they only built sixty of them.

Also the second kit is a bit wider than the first. According to the drawings I have this seems to be closer to the reality, but there's nothing I can do about it now. Not that I would anyway, since they fill a gap and there are others I'm much more interested in.

Buddahaid · 03-09-14, 09:37 PM

A bit wider but it also looks like the scale is a bit larger.

Sailor Steve · 03-10-14, 09:18 AM

That could be, but the length and the wingspan match up alright, and both of those dimensions match the drawings.

Optical contusion?

Sailor Steve · 03-11-14, 09:17 PM

Early and late landing gear.

Buddahaid · 03-11-14, 10:04 PM

They still look like completely different airframes and fat boy still looks bigger. I like the old gear with the training wheels.

Sailor Steve · 03-11-14, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

They still look like completely different airframes and fat boy still looks bigger.

I have to agree. The funny part is that the fatter one is closer to the drawings in size but the other one is closer in outline. As I said early on, there was a resin kit that was described as being perfect, but it's not available anywhere, for any price. it's like the kit was reviewed but never released. It's a good thing it's not that important an aircraft to me. I'll live with it.

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I like the old gear with the training wheels.

So do I. And they really were training wheels. Just like the skids on so many others, the idea was that in a rough landing the plane couldn't nose over. They finally realized that putting the main wheels far enough forward would serve the same purpose.

Sailor Steve · 03-13-14, 03:47 PM

Main paint applied. The earlier version will represent one of four aircraft sent to Mesopotamia.

Sailor Steve · 03-20-14, 08:03 PM

After a week of busying myself elsewhere I finally have the upper wings mounted.

Sailor Steve · 03-21-14, 08:48 PM

One month to the day since I started, and I finally have the decals on and the final overcoat. I still need to mount the guns and propellers, paint the wheels and struts, and get them rigged.

Sailor Steve · 03-24-14, 05:26 PM

The first one is finally done. The second should be tomorrow.

Gunsilnger · 03-24-14, 06:54 PM

Very nice!!

Jimbuna · 03-25-14, 05:48 AM

The grass on that runway needs cutting

Sailor Steve · 03-26-14, 08:52 PM

Another day lost. After playing music all night Monday I was in no condition yesterday for anything but sitting. This morning I got half the main rigging done. This afternoon I started on the other half and ran into trouble. Things wouldn't glue down, and when they did they were out of place. Cut that part away and do it again, then discover that some piece I'd already done had come loose. It took three tries to get it all where it belonged. Finally, though...

This represents a fairly standard Western Front aircraft.

Sailor Steve · 03-28-14, 12:29 PM

Next project: Morane-Saulnier 'BB', a rather obscure reconaissance biplane built in France, but the only buyer was the British Royal Flying Corps. There were less than 100 built, and some controversy over how many of them had the planned 110-horsepower Le Rhône 9J engine and how many only had the 80-hp 9C.

I'm using the fuselage from the Revell Morane 'N' kit as a basis, but this will be mostly scratchbuilt. The first problem to be overcome is that the Revell kit is wrong right from the start. It tapers to a point at the rear, where the real aeroplane tapered to a horizontal knife-edge, just like the square-bodied model 'H' before it, and like the Fokker and Pfalz eindekkers, the latter of which was an exact license-built copy of the 'H'.

Sailor Steve · 03-28-14, 06:35 PM

First step was to cut a pair of shims out of scrap plastic, then sand and shape them so the tail was the proper width and the fuselage taper matched the drawings.

I recently picked up a rare off-brand model of the Morane 'N' which the maker claimed was much more accurate. It's also a lot smaller, which is causing some concern. Harleyford's Fighter Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War says the 'N' was 22' long, and their Reconaissance Aircraft book says the 'BB' was 23' 2", which is less than a foot difference in length. The off-brand model 'N' is much smaller than Harleyford's drawing. On the other hand a couple of other sources say the 'N' was 19' 1" long, which is exactly what the off-brand model is. If that's the case then the Revell 'N' model is oversize by quite a bit, but it's perfect for the 'BB' conversion.

In any case I think it's going to be a fairly easy conversion.

03-08-14, 07:38 PM	#481
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Second kit is finally caught up with the first one. The second one has taught me something I didn't know before, mainly that early Martinsydes had rounded stabilizers. I already knew about the landing gear, which will show up shortly, but this one was new to me. It's funny that I should end up with two, because they only built sixty of them. Also the second kit is a bit wider than the first. According to the drawings I have this seems to be closer to the reality, but there's nothing I can do about it now. Not that I would anyway, since they fill a gap and there are others I'm much more interested in. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-09-14, 09:37 PM	#482
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,572 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	A bit wider but it also looks like the scale is a bit larger. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

03-10-14, 09:18 AM	#483
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	That could be, but the length and the wingspan match up alright, and both of those dimensions match the drawings. Optical contusion? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-11-14, 09:17 PM	#484
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Early and late landing gear. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-11-14, 10:04 PM	#485
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,572 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	They still look like completely different airframes and fat boy still looks bigger. I like the old gear with the training wheels. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

03-13-14, 03:47 PM	#487
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Main paint applied. The earlier version will represent one of four aircraft sent to Mesopotamia. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-20-14, 08:03 PM	#488
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	After a week of busying myself elsewhere I finally have the upper wings mounted. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-21-14, 08:48 PM	#489
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	One month to the day since I started, and I finally have the decals on and the final overcoat. I still need to mount the guns and propellers, paint the wheels and struts, and get them rigged. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-24-14, 05:26 PM	#490
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The first one is finally done. The second should be tomorrow. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-24-14, 06:54 PM	#491
Gunsilnger Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: The Mediterranean, somewhere between Gibraltar and Malta Posts: 115 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Very nice!! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Current Realism settings: 84% My Vessel: Asus M-pro Z-77 Intel I5 3.4Ghz Nvidia Gforce 610 1 Gig ram/Overclocked 8 Gig ram.

03-25-14, 05:48 AM	#492
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The grass on that runway needs cutting __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

03-26-14, 08:52 PM	#493
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Another day lost. After playing music all night Monday I was in no condition yesterday for anything but sitting. This morning I got half the main rigging done. This afternoon I started on the other half and ran into trouble. Things wouldn't glue down, and when they did they were out of place. Cut that part away and do it again, then discover that some piece I'd already done had come loose. It took three tries to get it all where it belonged. Finally, though... This represents a fairly standard Western Front aircraft. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-28-14, 12:29 PM	#494
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Next project: Morane-Saulnier 'BB', a rather obscure reconaissance biplane built in France, but the only buyer was the British Royal Flying Corps. There were less than 100 built, and some controversy over how many of them had the planned 110-horsepower Le Rhône 9J engine and how many only had the 80-hp 9C. I'm using the fuselage from the Revell Morane 'N' kit as a basis, but this will be mostly scratchbuilt. The first problem to be overcome is that the Revell kit is wrong right from the start. It tapers to a point at the rear, where the real aeroplane tapered to a horizontal knife-edge, just like the square-bodied model 'H' before it, and like the Fokker and Pfalz eindekkers, the latter of which was an exact license-built copy of the 'H'. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-28-14, 06:35 PM	#495
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	First step was to cut a pair of shims out of scrap plastic, then sand and shape them so the tail was the proper width and the fuselage taper matched the drawings. I recently picked up a rare off-brand model of the Morane 'N' which the maker claimed was much more accurate. It's also a lot smaller, which is causing some concern. Harleyford's Fighter Aircraft of the 1914-1918 War says the 'N' was 22' long, and their Reconaissance Aircraft book says the 'BB' was 23' 2", which is less than a foot difference in length. The off-brand model 'N' is much smaller than Harleyford's drawing. On the other hand a couple of other sources say the 'N' was 19' 1" long, which is exactly what the off-brand model is. If that's the case then the Revell 'N' model is oversize by quite a bit, but it's perfect for the 'BB' conversion. In any case I think it's going to be a fairly easy conversion. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo