UC3 Nautilus sunk - Peter Madsen charged with murder of journalist Kim Wall - Page 3

em2nought · 08-13-17, 03:32 PM

The moral of this story will probably turn out to be "Never call a guy's submarine 'tiny'."

Tchocky · 08-13-17, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by em2nought

The moral of this story will probably turn out to be "Never call a guy's submarine 'tiny'."

Hey.

Not funny.

Carotio · 08-13-17, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

Hey.

Not funny.

Agree, this is not a situation to make fun of. I have met PM a couple of times several years ago now and found him as a cool guy. If something has happend, and he is guilty, then it is a sad development and will be a sad outcome and legacy for him, but even more it is very very sad for Kim Wall and her relatives. If she is dead in the sub and thrown overbord somewhere, that is not an acceptable way to leave this earth.

Put that aside, here is yet another article:
http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/tidligere...e-brik/6777235

A former crime research officer has commented on the situation. He presumes that PM has dumped the body somewhere in the Sound or Køge Bugt south of Copenhagen. Unless PM will cooperate, the police can only speculate his whereabouts during that night, since the sub can go pretty far during those many hours. Normally, you're innocent untill proven guilty. The research officer thus presumes that the police must have something which reveals that PM must have somehting to do with her dissapearance. There was apparently some communication between the woman and her boyfriend that evening, which maybe is a reason for the police to keep him. The police is also searching for any DNA-evidence in the sub, probably because there might be a sexual motive for a crime. The sexual motive is probably also the reason why the court decided to close the doors saturday, because they didn't want to hurt the feelings of the relatives of KW.

Mr Quatro · 08-13-17, 08:50 PM

Good reporting Carotio you have a certain innocence about you. Yes we all hope it turns out well for Peter Madsen. After that DDG and the freighter accident I fear jumping to conclusions anymore

This is a April 30 2008 file photo of submarine owner Peter Madsen

Rockstar · 08-13-17, 08:52 PM

Assuming the worst, there could have been a bloody mess inside the boat which may be a reason he opened it up to the sea.

Mr Quatro · 08-13-17, 08:58 PM

If this story is true then it looks very bad for PM

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...wall-continues

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Kristian Isbak, who had responded to the navy’s call to help locate the ship, sailed out immediately Friday and saw Madsen standing wearing his trademark military fatigues in the submarine’s tower while it was still afloat.

“He then climbed down inside the submarine and there was then some kind of air flow coming up and the submarine started to sink,” Isbak said. “[He] came up again and stayed in the tower until water came into it”, before swimming to a nearby boat as the submarine sank, he added.

Madsen “told us he had technical problems” to explain why the submarine failed to respond to radio contact, Damgaard said.

Onkel Neal · 08-13-17, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Assuming the worst, there could have been a bloody mess inside the boat which may be a reason he opened it up to the sea.

Oh wow. Yeah, possibly.

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The police must definitely have something on Peter Madsen, since they quickly hurried to arrest him.

It believes the Swedish criminologist Jerzy Sarnecki, who Aftonbladet has spoken to.

"Obviously, they have something on him," he says to the newspaper.

I thought the same. The police arrested him almost immediately, so they must have some evidence to base that on.

mapuc · 08-14-17, 12:13 PM

The Danish Police has an appeal:

The police are calling for both people who have been on tour with Peter Madsen in his submarine and who have seen the submarine

The trip we toke, toke about 10 minutes and I can't remember what he did or didn't. I remember we dived for some minutes while crossing the canal in Copenhagen.

Markus

The General · 08-14-17, 01:05 PM

Just because the guy used crowd-funding, it doesn't mean he wanted to share with the crowd.

People who are extremely gifted in one area, often lack development in other areas.

That said, I hope this girl turns up, alive and well, but unless she jumped on a private jet to outer-Mongolia, without telling anyone, it's not looking good.

I suspect there was an accident and through fear of having his beloved sub taken away, he attempted to cover it up. I hope I'm wrong.

McBeck · 08-14-17, 03:21 PM

Stories are now surfacing that friends of the reported are saying that she can be fairly aggressive. Pair that with the fact that the judge ordered closed hearings to ensure that her relatives would not be offended by what would be disclosed tells a story that she has played a part in this whole mess.

I may be know Peter, but I am still trying my very best to stay neutral.
That being said, Peter is not a violent guy...

Catfish · 08-15-17, 01:21 AM

Innocent, until something else is proven.

em2nought · 08-15-17, 01:35 AM

It really is a swell looking little boat.

Onkel Neal · 08-15-17, 06:25 AM

One of the last images from Ms. Wall's trip

https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/danis...arine-missing/

AVGWarhawk · 08-15-17, 10:58 AM

Really odd situation this one.

McBeck · 08-15-17, 11:19 AM

Very. The forensic evidence collection from the sub has been completed, but they are not making any statements...

08-13-17, 03:32 PM	#31
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,467 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The moral of this story will probably turn out to be "Never call a guy's submarine 'tiny'." __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

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Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Good reporting Carotio you have a certain innocence about you. Yes we all hope it turns out well for Peter Madsen. After that DDG and the freighter accident I fear jumping to conclusions anymore This is a April 30 2008 file photo of submarine owner Peter Madsen __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

08-14-17, 01:05 PM	#39
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	Just because the guy used crowd-funding, it doesn't mean he wanted to share with the crowd. People who are extremely gifted in one area, often lack development in other areas. That said, I hope this girl turns up, alive and well, but unless she jumped on a private jet to outer-Mongolia, without telling anyone, it's not looking good. I suspect there was an accident and through fear of having his beloved sub taken away, he attempted to cover it up. I hope I'm wrong. __________________ *THE GENERAL* Last edited by The General; 08-14-17 at 01:28 PM.

08-14-17, 03:21 PM	#40
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,026 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Stories are now surfacing that friends of the reported are saying that she can be fairly aggressive. Pair that with the fact that the judge ordered closed hearings to ensure that her relatives would not be offended by what would be disclosed tells a story that she has played a part in this whole mess. I may be know Peter, but I am still trying my very best to stay neutral. That being said, Peter is not a violent guy... __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,575 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Assuming the worst, there could have been a bloody mess inside the boat which may be a reason he opened it up to the sea.

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mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 19,603 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	The Danish Police has an appeal: The police are calling for both people who have been on tour with Peter Madsen in his submarine and who have seen the submarine The trip we toke, toke about 10 minutes and I can't remember what he did or didn't. I remember we dived for some minutes while crossing the canal in Copenhagen. Markus

08-15-17, 01:35 AM	#42
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,467 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It really is a swell looking little boat. __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

08-15-17, 06:25 AM	#43
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,365 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	One of the last images from Ms. Wall's trip https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/danis...arine-missing/ __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,934 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Really odd situation this one. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

08-15-17, 11:19 AM	#45
McBeck Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,026 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Very. The forensic evidence collection from the sub has been completed, but they are not making any statements... __________________ "I like subcommanders...they dont have time for bull**!" Proud member of the Subsim army of zombies Becks website