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04-22-24, 01:47 PM | #3226 | |
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Schumer left. https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-...ouse-bill/8035 |
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04-22-24, 02:00 PM | #3227 |
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04-22-24, 02:20 PM | #3228 | |
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04-22-24, 03:05 PM | #3229 | |
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Then you can celebrate. Last edited by Rockstar; 04-22-24 at 03:28 PM. |
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04-22-24, 03:25 PM | #3230 |
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Now I'm confused I have until now thought that Bill H.R 8035 was approved in the House of Representatives last Saturday
Furthermore I understod that H.R 8035 was in total 98 bn Dollars whereof Ca 61 of them was to Ukraine and 8 bn was to Taiwan. The rest was to Israel and Gaza. Markus
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04-22-24, 03:54 PM | #3231 | |
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It was introduced and passed in the lower house a.k.a. ‘The House of Representatives’ on 20 April. Now it’s up for a vote in the upper house a.k.a. The Senate. Once it clears both houses of Congress it goes to the President. https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-...ouse-bill/8035 Anyway you can use the above link to track its progress. Just an fyi, the other two bills H.R 8034 and H.R. 8036 concern Israel and the Indo-Pacific Last edited by Rockstar; 04-22-24 at 05:26 PM. |
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04-22-24, 04:04 PM | #3232 |
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Republican Tom Kean, a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the US House of Representatives, stressed that the current version of the bill on additional funding for foreign aid, including Ukraine, contains a number of improvements compared to the Senate version. Among other things, the politician mentioned the REPO provision, which will allow the confiscation of frozen Russian assets in the United States, as well as the requirement for the owner of TikTok to sell the business to a non-Chinese company. Republican Tom Kean says "All these things, all these efforts took time to join forces and find that bipartisan solution that I hope will pass through the US Senate by the end of the week, and then after the signature (of the US president – ed.) will come into force as law," https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/04/22/7452451/
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04-22-24, 04:17 PM | #3233 |
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At their meeting in Luxembourg, the EU foreign ministers rejected the delivery of additional air defense systems for Ukraine.
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04-22-24, 04:52 PM | #3234 | |
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EU demand 100 % approval among its minister for a directive can pass. They have been talking about changing it to 3/4 of a majority. Markus
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04-22-24, 05:46 PM | #3235 |
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04-22-24, 05:48 PM | #3236 |
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It is currently unlikely that the USA will put together a larger aid package again, regardless of the outcome of the election. And since the current package is only sufficient for supporting the stabilization of the Ukrainian front until the end of this year or so, but a reconquest of the territories conquered by the Russians seems out of the question, a victory of the Ukrainians against Russia can now be confidently described as "ruled out". The European states' debts are so high and their state finances are in such a shabby state (namely France, Italy, and others) and they all have too few military resources of their own as if they were able to arm up Ukraine.
It is therefore all the more inconceivable that, in the name of a completely crazy EU policy on the environment, ecologic economy, migration and socialism, they are persisting in putting this foolish policy on the back burner - instead of reallocating the gigantic funds that are being made available for this megalomaniac hubris into the necessary development of a war economy, with an eye far beyond Ukraine, because the confrontation with Russia, I expect, will continue for the rest of my life - and may very well and anything but unrealistically lead to a major war with NATO. And for this outlook, we in Europe are in a really stupid position. Completely our own guilt. If this big war with NATO comes, I am anything but sure Europe would win it. I activeloy doubt it. Thanks to our formidable leaders. We should be economically hopelessly superior to Russia. And now see what a pitiful putocme we make of that! We are totally insane.
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04-22-24, 06:53 PM | #3237 |
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Let Ukraine be defeated by an old fashioned dictator and we all will be in the big one war.
Putin will invade the Baltic states next when he is ready with Ukraine and has his hands free. Russian war production is thriving and will not stop. Indeed helping Ukraine and defeat Putin NOW would shorten the russian aggression, cost us less money, and cost a lot less (especially of our /cyn) lives. Short sighted western idiots everywhere.
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04-23-24, 06:23 AM | #3238 | |
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^ True that
A good start would be kicking a certain EU member off the team. Quote:
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04-23-24, 06:53 AM | #3239 | |
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What $61bn US aid boost could mean for Ukraine
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04-23-24, 08:10 AM | #3240 |
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Utter BBC nonsense, “what it could mean”, really?.
I posted a link to the text of the bill several times already. Unless the Senate sends it back to the lower house with revisions. Here’s what it DOES mean. Specifically, the bill H.R. 8035 provides appropriations to the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD), U.S. Department of Energy science programs, U.S. National Nuclear Security Administration, U.S. Administration for Children and Families, U.S. Department of State, and the U.S. Agency for International Development. ———— The funding is provided for purposes such as supporting current U.S. military operations in the region, the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, replacing defense articles that were provided to Ukraine, reimbursing DOD for defense services and training provided to Ukraine, the Foreign Military Financing Program, economic support for Ukraine, refugee and entrant assistance, international narcotics control and law enforcement, and the development and production of isotopes. The bill also includes provisions that expand the authorities of the President to transfer defense articles and services from DOD to foreign countries or international organizations, require the President to transfer long-range Army Tactical Missile Systems to Ukraine, require the President to enter into an agreement with Ukraine regarding repaying the United States for the economic assistance it has provided to Ukraine, require certain funds that are provided for Ukraine to be matched by other donors, and establish various oversight and reporting requirements for assistance provided to Ukraine. |
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