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Old 12-15-11, 02:31 PM   #16
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Was it worth it really depends on how Iraq comes out of this.

My guess is it'll go downhill very quickly for them.
I agree with Dowly. The ball is in there court now. Let's check them in 10 years and ask this question again. I'm not holding my breath though.

So who do you think the biggest threat is Iraq's future?

1. Islamic nutjobs.
2. Iran.
3. all of the above.
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Old 12-15-11, 02:50 PM   #17
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What the hell was he supposed to stab us with?
It's amazing what you can buy with billions of petro-dollars.

Even under sanctions, no fly zones and a seriously bad image problem he was able to profit from the oil for food program (while his people starved). It's not difficult to imagine what he would have been able to get away with once all that was withdrawn.
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Old 12-15-11, 03:14 PM   #18
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It's amazing what you can buy with billions of petro-dollars.
Its amazing that people will still trot out the same worn out crap instead of facing the fact that they supported a massive screw up and swallowed the biggest pile of bull from idiot politicians.

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Even under sanctions, no fly zones and a seriously bad image problem he was able to profit from the oil for food program (while his people starved). It's not difficult to imagine what he would have been able to get away with once all that was withdrawn.
Seriously pathetic, someone who has to believe the delusional fantasy because the truth is too painful for him to face.
It isn't pleasant but you have to face it August, 202 of your paratroopers died for some lame brain fantasy that unfortunately simply handed power to the Iranian supported nuts.
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Old 12-15-11, 06:36 PM   #19
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202 of my BROTHERS died doing thier duty.
All were double volunteers by the way.
They enlisted knowing the dangers, then went AirBorne knowing the dangers.
As a Soldier, you do not have the option to decide when and where you will fight.
It could be the politics got them killed. That's for history and the future to show if it was all worth it.
But don't besmirch the fact they had the GUTS to go do what a ParaTrooper does.
He completes a MISSION no matter what!
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Old 12-15-11, 06:50 PM   #20
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Not taking sides but COOL HEADS everyone please.

An emotive subject I know and ultimate respects to those that did their duty
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Old 12-15-11, 06:59 PM   #21
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202 of my BROTHERS died doing thier duty.
All were double volunteers by the way.
They enlisted knowing the dangers, then went AirBorne knowing the dangers.
As a Soldier, you do not have the option to decide when and where you will fight.
It could be the politics got them killed. That's for history and the future to show if it was all worth it.
But don't besmirch the fact they had the GUTS to go do what a ParaTrooper does.
He completes a MISSION no matter what!
Damn straight.
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Old 12-15-11, 07:31 PM   #22
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There might have been a possibility of terrorists getting their hands on some, but then they would have had to smuggle it past Homeland Security...


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What the hell was he supposed to stab us with? Even if he had actually had chemical weapons, he had no way to use them against the US.
Just stick a Scud on the back of a cargo ship and launch from the mid Atlantic.
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but then they would have had to smuggle it past Homeland Security
Like they are doing such a GREAT job stopping Drugs from South America?

Wake up and sniff some of that Coke that has little problem getting here.

What if those drugs coming in were tampered with? Say added something like Ebola? Can you picture the results?
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But don't besmirch the fact they had the GUTS to go do what a ParaTrooper does.
Who is besmirching what they do?
It is addressing those that still support the obvious nonsense as it was sold by the politicians
Though it could be said that some are besmirching them by denying the plain truth of the screw up that was Iraq, and in case you missed it that was all politics not the troops.
It wouldn't be an issue if someone wasn't praising the troops but spouting the lies of the politicians at the same time to justify it all.
Like I said he is spinning the old the political lies because he appears unable to face that they were just doing the job and wants to try and justify it further by making it a decent cause.
I suppose it is in much the same vein as those who still insist the events in the Tonkin gulf really happened as they were told at the time.


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The only thing thats damn straight is that you are spinning a line which was widely seen as nonsense a decade ago and now is plainly admitted as nonsense by a major segment of the very people who told you it in the first place.
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Just stick a Scud on the back of a cargo ship and launch from the mid Atlantic.
You guys think too high tech.

Some sacrificial fool cracking open the valve of what looks like a 20lb barbecue gas tank that he has positioned near a crowded buildings air intake is a far more likely scenario.
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What if those drugs coming in were tampered with? Say added something like Ebola? Can you picture the results?
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You guys think too high tech.

Some sacrificial fool cracking open the valve of what looks like a 20lb barbecue gas tank that he has positioned near a crowded buildings air intake is a far more likely scenario.
Take your pick...



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Out of all the casualties in Iraq, why point out the 202 ParaTroopers?
As a way to attack August I suspect.
You should consider there are some of us that don't care about this debate until you pointed to the 202.
That number was not in this thread until you raised it.
By doing that? You attack the sacrifice they made for your benifit.

I find that highly offensive given what they paid.
You and August can run around as long as you both wish with exchanges.
I do not care at all in any way.
But please do not use My fallen Brothers to make a point.
They deserve much more then that.

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You and August
Don't put me in the same sentence as that jerk. I keep him on ignore for a reason. If the rest of you did the same he'd eventually scuttle back to whatever dark troll cave he came from.
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Old 12-15-11, 08:23 PM   #30
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I'll apologize to you for doing that.
But others still see the whole exchange.
I find the 202 reference offensive given the facts and how it was used.
No doubt I'll be attacked next given past postings.
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