Blue Water Development Diary - Page 2

AzureSkies · 02-26-19, 09:15 AM

If you haven't seen the announcement thread yet, please take a quick look here.

Also keep in mind the development diary.

But with that out of the way...

Welcome to the Blue Water official suggestions thread!

To call the development team here small is an understatement, and many of the features have yet to be fully committed to.

As of the moment, we have for our game's core:

1. Realistic weapons and ranges
2. An adjustable "world scale" slider that modifies the range of all weapons and sensors
3. Time Compression
4. Skirmish and multiplayer modes
Etc.

It's impossible to list every little feature of a game, and maybe it's hard to come up with specific feature suggestions on something you've never played, but people have had a lot of years to come up with "what I'do differently about [similar game here]", and I'd appreciate feedback.

The project is for you, after all. So what have you always wanted to see in a realistic naval sim in the genre of Jane's Fleet Command or Battlestations: Midway? (leaning more towards realism)

nikimcbee · 03-03-19, 01:54 AM

Sweet, first in.

Something during the Cuban Missle Crisis would be cool.

See October Fury.

https://www.amazon.com/October-Fury-.../dp/0471468843

Or maybe something along these lines, the USS Scorpion goes hot.
https://www.amazon.com/Scorpion-Down...s=books&sr=1-1

Herman · 03-03-19, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AzureSkies

3. Time Compression

One of the severe shortcomings for Harpoon multi-player was the Time Compression. Any player could request 1:1 time or pause in order to issue orders. This was fine but, too often, some players forgot to increase time compression speed and most battles just crawled along at 1:1 unnecessarily.

There was no way to know who had requested 1:1 or which player(s) wanted to increase the speed. I think that some way to:

1) tell a player that he is the slowest and
2) what speed the other players are requesting

would be very useful.

AzureSkies · 03-05-19, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Sweet, first in.

Something during the Cuban Missle Crisis would be cool.

See October Fury.

https://www.amazon.com/October-Fury-.../dp/0471468843

Or maybe something along these lines, the USS Scorpion goes hot.
https://www.amazon.com/Scorpion-Down...s=books&sr=1-1

Replied in the main thread.

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Originally Posted by Herman

One of the severe shortcomings for Harpoon multi-player was the Time Compression. Any player could request 1:1 time or pause in order to issue orders. This was fine but, too often, some players forgot to increase time compression speed and most battles just crawled along at 1:1 unnecessarily.

There was no way to know who had requested 1:1 or which player(s) wanted to increase the speed. I think that some way to:

1) tell a player that he is the slowest and
2) what speed the other players are requesting

would be very useful.

A great suggestion! I'll be sure to keep this in mind when it comes time for implementation.

Medley1991 · 03-19-19, 05:22 PM

You says : "you will take command of NATO and Soviet battlegroups, airbases, submarines and land installations"

NATO, all nations ? All naval/air units ?

Terminus · 03-26-19, 07:01 AM

COOP Multiplayer would be good against AI or against other Humies.

Also hope the Australian Navy is there along with New Zealand, since we operated the same class of ships for the most part.

Terminus

Aktungbby · 02-26-19, 11:51 AM

AzureSkies!

Amiral Crapaud · 03-01-19, 03:46 AM

Good luck team!

nikimcbee · 03-03-19, 01:47 AM

Best of luck

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Will it be 1980's only or earlier in the Cold War? Cuban Missle Crisis would be cool.

See October Fury for reference:
https://www.amazon.com/October-Fury-.../dp/0471468843

Kapitan · 03-03-19, 05:06 AM

Best of luck its been over a decade since a decent surface naval game has been on the shelf think the last one was destroyer command

AzureSkies · 03-05-19, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

AzureSkies!

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Originally Posted by Alain-James

Good luck team!

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Best of luck

.

Will it be 1980's only or earlier in the Cold War? Cuban Missle Crisis would be cool.

See October Fury for reference:
https://www.amazon.com/October-Fury-.../dp/0471468843

The possibility of later expanding it to other time periods is open, but as of the moment, the focus is early 80's (end of 1983, specifically). But if the current project meets enough success, there's always the possibility of opening up earlier in the cold war.

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Originally Posted by Kapitan

Best of luck its been over a decade since a decent surface naval game has been on the shelf think the last one was destroyer command

That's a huge part of the reason this project exists. And Destroyer Command was great!

ChiefCommander33 · 05-27-19, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AzureSkies

Hello everyone!

I'm pleased to announce the committed development of this new naval strategy game, Blue Water.

[in-game screenshot with UI overlay disabled. Post edited to replace old art]

The name is a reference to the maritime geographical term, "Blue-Water Navy".

It's been a long time since either Sonalysts' Jane's Fleet Command or Eidos Hungary's Battlestations: Midway graced the naval game community, and Blue Water intends to fill the big shoes they left: That of a surface-fleet, real-time naval strategy game.

Set at the end of 1983 in a "Cold War gone hot" scenario, you will take command of NATO and Soviet battlegroups, airbases, submarines and land installations to decide the world's future. You will be able to take command of one vessel at a time and switch between them, or issue orders from a strategic map.

The Soviet and US Navies were very different, however, it is possible to find some ships that had striking similarities in the most important metrics (such as range, type and effectiveness of armament, etc). As such, there's planned to be two different kinds of missions: Symmetric and Asymmetric. In Symmetric maps, roughly equivalent battle groups will be pitted against each other. In Asymmetric, the fleet composition is more broad and better reflects the different doctrines of the two navies.

There will be realistic weapons and ranges, an adjustable "world scale" slider that modifies the range of all weapons and sensors, skirmish and multiplayer modes, and much more. All these features may not be available on the early alpha version of the game, but will be released with free future updates.

On that note, I'm proud to say I'm committed to the old-fashioned, microtransaction-free model of gaming.

But as for now, it is extremely early in development, but with dynamic water interaction and a unique and immersive order/control scheme, it's already looking very promising and I'm very excited to be working on it.

Be sure to check out the development diary and suggestions thread.

Sincerely,
Azure Skies, LLC

I'm excited for this game. All I see are WW2 submarine games. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing them but I want to play a sub and surface more modern day naval game with modern day navies and weapons. A simulator game in that capacity where you can still give order, move around inside the vessel and command it like a modern day vessel would be awesome. I even thought about learning how to code and to become a developer to create a game of this sort if no one was going to create one. I wish you guys the best of luck and I will be following your progress! I can't wait to play this. Let me know if you need a tester. I would be happy to assist.

Sea Demon · 05-27-19, 04:06 PM

Checking in. Still watching this product closely with great interest. Fantastic update on May 23rd in the Development Diary. The Juliett sub model looks great! Can't wait til we see shots of weapons on their way to the target. The sky looks great (sunset), and the water is equally as good as what we're seeing in DCS. Haven't seen it in motion yet though.

If you do an early access release, do you envision monthly updates for completion? Or do you see large block updates that come much later?

I for sure would purchase an early release, even if bare bones....but would hope updates would come routinely. (for what it's worth)

Waiting for screenshots of your next vehicle.....

AzureSkies · 05-27-19, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefCommander33

I'm excited for this game. All I see are WW2 submarine games. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing them but I want to play a sub and surface more modern day naval game with modern day navies and weapons. A simulator game in that capacity where you can still give order, move around inside the vessel and command it like a modern day vessel would be awesome. I even thought about learning how to code and to become a developer to create a game of this sort if no one was going to create one. I wish you guys the best of luck and I will be following your progress! I can't wait to play this. Let me know if you need a tester. I would be happy to assist.

Honestly not too far off from what I did. I was already familiar with code and I've been modding games - even here on SUBSIM with my personal account - for over a decade.

Like most things, it's more difficult than it looks but still possible with enough commitment.

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Checking in. Still watching this product closely with great interest. Fantastic update on May 23rd in the Development Diary. The Juliett sub model looks great! Can't wait til we see shots of weapons on their way to the target. The sky looks great (sunset), and the water is equally as good as what we're seeing in DCS. Haven't seen it in motion yet though.

If you do an early access release, do you envision monthly updates for completion? Or do you see large block updates that come much later?

I for sure would purchase an early release, even if bare bones....but would hope updates would come routinely. (for what it's worth)

Waiting for screenshots of your next vehicle.....

I'm very happy to hear that - and that's kind of funny you mention seeing it in motion - I keep thinking to myself, "it doesn't look nearly as good in still pictures...", so I can't wait to capture some video of it.

Monthly updates may be possible, but also may not be practical. We'll have to see. But I'll keep in mind that the playerbase would prefer more frequent updates.

The bigger updates will certainly take time, though. There's one in particular that I really look forward to seeing the community's reaction to, but that's a long ways down the road.

Medley1991 · 06-11-19, 03:58 PM

Yeah, nice to see the advancement in the dev process. That's look amazing !
In case of Early acces, it's very important for making a devblog on a website, and making a weekly news. Not necesery a update but keeping a contact with comunity is very important.

For exemple, you can see the devblog form Airport CEO dev's.

I am very exiting about this project, and i buy day one the early acces.

02-26-19, 09:15 AM	#1
AzureSkies Blue Water Dev Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 95 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Blue Water Official Suggestions Thread If you haven't seen the announcement thread yet, please take a quick look here. Also keep in mind the development diary. But with that out of the way... Welcome to the Blue Water official suggestions thread! To call the development team here small is an understatement, and many of the features have yet to be fully committed to. As of the moment, we have for our game's core: 1. Realistic weapons and ranges 2. An adjustable "world scale" slider that modifies the range of all weapons and sensors 3. Time Compression 4. Skirmish and multiplayer modes Etc. It's impossible to list every little feature of a game, and maybe it's hard to come up with specific feature suggestions on something you've never played, but people have had a lot of years to come up with "what I'do differently about [similar game here]", and I'd appreciate feedback. The project is for you, after all. So what have you always wanted to see in a realistic naval sim in the genre of Jane's Fleet Command or Battlestations: Midway? (leaning more towards realism) Last edited by AzureSkies; 05-23-19 at 07:43 PM.

03-03-19, 01:54 AM	#2
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,925 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Sweet, first in. Something during the Cuban Missle Crisis would be cool. See October Fury. https://www.amazon.com/October-Fury-.../dp/0471468843 Or maybe something along these lines, the USS Scorpion goes hot. https://www.amazon.com/Scorpion-Down...s=books&sr=1-1 __________________

03-26-19, 07:01 AM	#6
Terminus Watch Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 27 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	COOP Multiplayer would be good against AI or against other Humies. Also hope the Australian Navy is there along with New Zealand, since we operated the same class of ships for the most part. Terminus __________________ regards Terminus

02-26-19, 11:51 AM	#7
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 28,024 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard! AzureSkies! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

03-03-19, 01:47 AM	#9
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,925 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Best of luck. Will it be 1980's only or earlier in the Cold War? Cuban Missle Crisis would be cool. See October Fury for reference: https://www.amazon.com/October-Fury-.../dp/0471468843 __________________

03-19-19, 05:22 PM	#5
Medley1991 Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Belgium Posts: 12 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	You says : "you will take command of NATO and Soviet battlegroups, airbases, submarines and land installations" NATO, all nations ? All naval/air units ?

03-01-19, 03:46 AM	#8
Amiral Crapaud Electrician's Mate Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 139 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Good luck team!

03-03-19, 05:06 AM	#10
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,090 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 7	Best of luck its been over a decade since a decent surface naval game has been on the shelf think the last one was destroyer command __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

05-27-19, 04:06 PM	#13
Sea Demon Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,552 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Checking in. Still watching this product closely with great interest. Fantastic update on May 23rd in the Development Diary. The Juliett sub model looks great! Can't wait til we see shots of weapons on their way to the target. The sky looks great (sunset), and the water is equally as good as what we're seeing in DCS. Haven't seen it in motion yet though. If you do an early access release, do you envision monthly updates for completion? Or do you see large block updates that come much later? I for sure would purchase an early release, even if bare bones....but would hope updates would come routinely. (for what it's worth) Waiting for screenshots of your next vehicle.....

06-11-19, 03:58 PM	#15
Medley1991 Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Belgium Posts: 12 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Yeah, nice to see the advancement in the dev process. That's look amazing ! In case of Early acces, it's very important for making a devblog on a website, and making a weekly news. Not necesery a update but keeping a contact with comunity is very important. For exemple, you can see the devblog form Airport CEO dev's. I am very exiting about this project, and i buy day one the early acces.