Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Skybird

No decisions on fundamental increases in military production capacities.

Rheinmetall plans to open at least 4 plants in Ukraine
"Armin Papperger, CEO of the German armament concern Rheinmetall, has announced plans to open at least four plants in Ukraine. He made this statement on 14 March during the presentation of the company’s 2023 results."

Rheinmetall CEO Papperger announced today that they plan to increase their production of artillery ammunition to 1.1 million shells per year by 2027. This will be possible due to the new plants already being built (Unterlüß) and planned (Ukraine and Lithuania). Furthermore, Papperger announced that Germany is likely to award Rheinmetall a new framework contract for the production and delivery of up to 2.2 million shells of artillery ammunition (10-year term). This new framework contract was most likely already announced by Minister of Defence Pistorius on the 25th of January 2024 and will also include deliveries to Ukraine.

I see decisions being made maybe slow, but that is because companies like Rheinmetall need guaranties for setting up new production lines the shortage for resources for this kind of ammo is globally everybody is making products because of this war. That Russia can produce faster is because in an authoritarian system they take over the production that is not possible in democracies. Russia production is still not enough to meet its needs, the West is just starting, and we have enough money to outproduce Russia in the long term.

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Robert Fox, Defence Analyst at The Independent, is surprising for me on the Ukraine offensive last summer (around 8:00)

[Jimbuna]

Three EU countries oppose purchase of ammunition for Ukraine with frozen Russian assets

European Union Member States have opposed the plan of the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, to use the proceeds from frozen Russian assets to purchase weapons for Ukraine, according to Politico.

The agency notes that this is happening against rumors that the proposal to freeze assets will be presented closer to the EU leaders' summit next week.

During Wednesday's meeting of the envoys of the 27 EU countries, an unnamed European official revealed that Malta, Luxembourg, and Hungary have voiced their reservations about using the income from Russian assets to purchase ammunition for Ukraine.

According to them, von der Leyen's desire to use the money to replenish Ukraine's diminishing weapon supplies has complicated the negotiations, as a consensus was reached that they should go towards recovery.

Lately, the issue of confiscating Russian assets for the benefit of Ukraine has become increasingly relevant amid the lack of new assistance from the United States.

In total, about $300 billion of Russian assets have been frozen in Western countries since the beginning of the war.

Recently, the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, proposed to redirect Russian assets to military aid for Ukraine.

On March 7, the Ukrainian government held a meeting regarding the confiscation of assets of the aggressor country.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...a226d061&ei=14

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by Skybird

That could be argued. What has been given away - so far has mostly not been replenished. For most of what is missing not even orders have been placed.

You are right, I am not optimistic. Nor am I pessimistic. I belong to this kind of strange people for whom the glass is neither half full nor half empty - but twice as big as it has to be for its current fill. In other words: optimism leads me nowhere. Realism does.

We have been optimistic. For years and decades. See where it has got us.



I refer to Gen. Zalushnji's essay in The Economist that brought him so deep into trouble with Zelenskji. But the general was right. He saw it coming. And he did not like what he saw.

OK, I'll refer to Sweden joining NATO.
Think about why that's a big deal. What makes Sweden famous? Chocolate and Banks. They USED to be neutral so their banks could do business with anyone who showed up. They could also produce arms for anyone who had the cash. THAT has changed.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by ET2SN

OK, I'll refer to Sweden joining NATO.
Think about why that's a big deal. What makes Sweden famous? Chocolate and Banks. They USED to be neutral so their banks could do business with anyone who showed up. They could also produce arms for anyone who had the cash. THAT has changed.

Yes, an unmovable aircraft carrier in the Baltic. Still. You can take it for granted that I am not convinced this really makes NATO stronger in combat power. Lets put it this way: the NATO Sweden finally joined is a much weaker NATO than the one they applied for membership almost two years before.

In the end what its about is combat power NATO can project in the three small baltic states or Poland, Czechia, Romania, Hungary - and that outlook is grim. Or do you want to get rescued by one of Germany's now famous phantom brigades...?

Currently the intel services of Estonia, Germany and Lithuania are briefing their governments on their conclusion that Russia is definitely preparing for attack on NATO countires - and much earlier than the US think possible, in as early as 3 years. They restructure their forces and commands, and relocate units and groups, and currently stream A-G and A-A missiles towards their border areas with Russia. Putin said loud and clearly he wants the former Warsaw Pact satellites back. Who is daredevil enough to say he doe snot mean it, after Ukraine? The man ahs waged severla wars altready, and announced his intention of genocide on Ukraine before he struck into Ukraine. All three mentioned intel agencies warn tactical nuclear attacks must be expected from day one on, if the Russians indeed attack, I suspect on airbases and CCCI centres. And now tell me, where in Europe is NATO currently prepared to repell an attack of the intensity we see in Ukraine? Nowhere. European ground forces for the most are scattered all across the continent, far away from possible frontlines, and that all members will join article 5 being called up - is questionable.

Better be ready and finding that nothing happened, than getting found by war and not being ready. But ready we must be. We are far from it.


And with the hesitating, slow rearmamanet NATO may run over the next years, Russia knows that NATO will only get stronger, in tiny steps, that way. So why should they delay the attack 6-10 years as the Americans think is possible? Better strike as early as you can. And they already are in war production.

We have underestimated the Russians fundamentally. We better stop that. Now.

[Jimbuna]

Meanwhile.....does anybody know of a bookie who will give any odds on Putin failing to get re-elected?

Russia election 2024: Voting begins in election Putin is bound to win

Voting has begun in Russia's presidential election, which is all but certain to hand Vladimir Putin another six years in power.

Ballots will be cast over three days, even though the result is not in doubt as he has no credible opponent.

Polling stations opened in the Kamchatka Peninsula, Russia's easternmost region, at 08:00 local time on Friday (20:00 GMT on Thursday) and will finally close in the westernmost Kaliningrad exclave at 20:00 on Sunday.

It was at a grand military awards ceremony last December that Vladimir Putin, 71, told the Russian public he would stand for the presidency for a fifth time.

At the solemn event, held in one of the Kremlin's most opulent halls, Russia's leader of 24 years had just handed out top honours to soldiers who had taken part in Russia's "special military operation" in Ukraine.

He was chatting with a small group of participants when the commander of a pro-Russian unit in Ukraine's occupied Donetsk region approached him.

"We need you, Russia needs you!" declared Lt-Col Artyom Zhoga, asking him to run as a candidate in Russia's forthcoming presidential election. Everyone voiced their support.

Vladimir Putin nodded: "Now is the time for making decisions. I will be running for the post of president of the Russian Federation."

His spokesman Dmitry Peskov later described the decision to run as "absolutely spontaneous". But the Kremlin rarely leaves its choreography to chance.

Instead, straight away its well-oiled media machine swung into action.

On all state channels, 71-year-old President Putin was promoted as a national leader who stood head and shoulders above any potential rivals.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68505228

[Skybird]

https://www-t--online-de.translate.g...x_tr_hist=true


More specific info on what I assumed privately already and what made me demanding that we - all nations, not just Germany - deliver them more ammunition - but made me much more hesitent to exclusively focus on just delivering Taurus.
What I did not forgive them however was the early reason given by a speaker of the chancellor's office that they do not want to give Taurus away due to Taurus being used to interrupting - slow - Russian supply lines over the Kerch bridge - that is no sane logic in this war.
One thing however seems to be clear: the Russians are extremely worried about Taurus.

[Skybird]

And a new low in Russia's already impressive record oin human rights violations and war crimes: they obviously force kidneapped Ukrianain teenagers into the Russian military when they turned 18, and send them to fight in Ukraine.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/14/e...ntl/index.html

There are also fresh reports on widespread and conbstantly happening daily torutre of Ukrainian prisoners, every day, over months, by beating them up, and electroshocking their genitals.

Genocide does include not just slitting throats and destroying culture and identity and langauge, but also annihilating individual psyches. If ever being released, these victims of wonderful Russian civilkization will wlak as living zombies amongst the living, a life-long wanrign to thiose aorudn what happens to you if you resist Russia. Same applies to systematic mass rapings. These torturings are not random or misdeeds by local commanders, they are systematic, they are ordered for much higher above in the hierarchy, they are integral part of the doctrine. They are meant as terror against the general population.

[Jimbuna]

Europe split clouds Macron talks with Scholz in Berlin

French President Emmanuel Macron has had talks with Germany's Olaf Scholz in Berlin after a rift was exposed over Europe's response to Russia's war in Ukraine.

The French leader has warned the "security of Europe and the French is at stake" and if Russia wins Europe's credibility will be "reduced to zero".

But Mr Scholz has been far more cautious, ruling out the deployment of Germany's Taurus cruise missiles.

Ukraine faces a critical arms shortage.

The German chancellor has come under pressure to extend his government's help, because a $60bn (£47bn; €55bn) US military aid package for Ukraine has been blocked in Congress by Republicans on the right.

Germany remains Europe's biggest source of military aid for Ukraine, but Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk, who joined the two leaders in Berlin later, said it was now up to their three countries to "mobilise all of Europe" to provide Ukraine with help.

"True solidarity with Ukraine? Less words, more ammunition," he posted on social media on Friday.

Their meeting came as a Russian missile attack on the southern Ukrainian port city of Odesa killed at least 14 people and left 46 other wounded, according to the regional head. Among those killed and wounded were emergency medical teams.

As members of Ukraine's DSNS emergency service arrived to search for casualties and put out fires, more Russian rockets reportedly landed at the scene and the DSNS released several photos of wounded colleagues.

Differences over the response to the war have deepened between Paris and Berlin in recent weeks, after the German chancellor said long-range Taurus missiles would need German soldiers on the ground in Ukraine to look after them and that was a limit that he was not prepared to cross.

President Macron has equally angered some of his European partners by suggesting that sending Western troops could not be ruled out.

In an extended live interview on French TV on Thursday night he said it was not his wish, although "all these options are possible".

Stressing that France was a force for peace, he warned that Russia was seeking to extend its power and would not stop now: "If we leave Ukraine alone, if we let Ukraine lose this war, then for sure Russia will threaten Moldova, Romania and Poland."

Ahead of Friday's meeting of the three leaders, billed as a bid to revive the so-called "Weimar Triangle", the German chancellor told Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky over the phone that the summit was of great importance to "organise as much support as possible for Ukraine".

Mr Zelensky went on social media to say he had told the German leader that Ukraine's priorities were "armoured vehicles, artillery, and air defence".

Nato Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg warned on Thursday that Ukrainians were "not running out of courage, they are running out of ammunition", more than two years after Russia's full-scale invasion began.

He said the shortage was one of the reasons why Russia had made recent advances on the battlefield, and he called on Nato allies to provide Ukraine with what it needed.

A Czech-led initiative to source weapons from outside Europe has already raised enough funds to buy at least 300,000 shells and Prague officials say the first deliveries will arrive by June at the latest.

Russia's military captured the eastern town of Avdiivka after months of trying in February and Ukraine's commander-in-chief Oleksandr Syrskyi said on a visit to the area on Friday that Russian forces had been trying to break through Ukrainian lines "for several days in a row".

"Russian advances are supported by intense artillery fire and the active use of spotter drones and drones capable of dropping munitions."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68573441

[Jimbuna]

'Stalin-style purges could follow election'

An American financier who worked in Moscow after the fall of the Soviet Union and author of two books on Russia says Russia could see Stalin-style purges after the election

Bill Browder, who has been a vocal critic of Vladimir Putin for years, told Sky News: "At the moment Putin kills individuals, but what he hasn’t done is round up and kill large quantities of people in opposition and media.

"He kills individuals to make a point, but that could change. We could see the gulags properly set up and see thousands if not tens of thousands of people dragged off from their apartments overnight the way they were under Stalin.

"We could also see a massive increase in assassinations of his enemies at home and abroad."

Discussing Mr Putin’s position more broadly, he said: "Basically Putin is desperate to stay in power, there is no way he can leave power without going to jail, losing his money and potentially dying."

"First of all, he needs to have his dictatorship renewed for more time and once he is finished with this fake election he can carry on with his repression.

"He can go on to do much worse things than he has done before, because there isn't even the international community looking over his shoulder any more."

"I think we are quickly moving towards a North Korea type of situation in Russia, that's what Vladimir Putin is now."

As leader of the former Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin oversaw the murders of hundreds of thousands of people during the 1930s in a campaign to consolidate his power.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

As leader of the former Soviet Union, Joseph Stalin oversaw the murders of hundreds of thousands of people during the 1930s in a campaign to consolidate his power.

Eh, millions. Estimations range as high as 60 millions.

[Jimbuna]

They probably lost count eventually

[Jimbuna]

WARNING: LONG READ

Election booths vandalized in Russia as citizens refuse to back Putin

Russian citizens have conducted a string of explosive protests in defiance of what critics believe will be a rigged presidential referendum in favor of Vladimir Putin as voting opened on Friday. Shocking video purported to show a woman dousing a Moscow voting booth in flammable liquid before setting it on fire and recording the drama on her smartphone. The fire was promptly extinguished and the woman detained, according to local media. But similar acts of vandalism continued around the country, with a voter setting a ballot box alight in Khanty Mansi region in Siberia, according to local reports. In Saint Petersburg, a woman threw a Molotov cocktail at a school being used as a voting station, according to electoral authorities, while an explosive device was detonated at a polling station in Russian-occupied southern Ukraine.

Five people in at least four regions poured dye into ballot boxes, and another was detained for lighting fireworks inside the polling station. As citzens turn out to vote between March 15 and 17, critics of incumbent president Vladimir Putin have turned out in brave defiance to undermine polling efforts. Running effectively unchallenged, the 71-year-old Kremlin chief is almost certain to secure another six-year term with any legitimate political opponents in jail, in exile or in the ground after his fiercest of opponents, Alexei Navalny, died in a remote Arctic penal colony last month. Russian police detained at least eight people Friday for acts of vandalism at polling stations on the first day of voting in presidential elections, officials said. Authorities did not say if the protests were directed against longtime leader Vladimir Putin, and state-media reports said voting was 'continuing as normal'.

In the Chelyabinsk region, police detained a man who tried to set firecrackers off at a polling station, the TASS news agency reported, citing the regional government. And in a school being used for polling in Kogalym, 'an unsuccessful attempt was made to set fire to a stationary ballot box using a Molotov cocktail,' the region's election commission said. The suspect was in her 20s, electoral official Maxim Meiksin said on Telegram. 'The unlawful actions were promptly stopped by police officers. No one was injured,' he added. An explosive device was detonated at a polling station in Russian-occupied southern Ukraine but caused no deaths. 'In Skadovsk, an improvised explosive device was planted in a rubbish bin in front of a polling station. It detonated. There are no casualties or injuries,' Moscow's electoral commission in the occupied Kherson region said.

Russia has enforced voting in occupied parts of Ukraine, drawing ire from Putin-opposed residents. Russian forces also said that Kyiv had shelled polling stations in the occupied city of Kakhovka. In what did appear to be a politically motivated act, a 'resident of Moscow set fire to a voting booth at a polling station in the south-eastern administrative district,' Moscow with a Twinkle reported this afternoon. 'She poured flammable liquid, set it on fire and began filming on her phone. 'The fire was quickly extinguished. The woman was detained.' In another clip, a woman was seen pouring green dye into a ballot box in Moscow. The woman was reportedly detained and a case opened under 'obstruction of the exercise of voting right or the work of election commissions'. She would be taken to Russia's investigative committee department for 'interrogation', local media claimed. Russian outlet Siren reported earlier today that polling booths appeared to be using 'disappearing ink' on ballot sheets, which is erased 'when heated'.

'The inscription disappears when heated, although the pen looks ordinary,' a Russian reader from Kursk told the outlet. 'They told everyone to be silent and only put down these pens from the boxes they brought.' A reader from Rostov-on-Don also claimed ink evaporated when introduced to heat. Video appeared to show crosses on a ballot sheet expressing preference disappearing when put near the flame from a disposable lighter. State-run media said that voter turnout had already reached 23 percent by late afternoon in Moscow on Friday. Vladimir Putin is expected to win the March elections, having signed a law in 2021 allowing him to serve two more terms as Russian President. He was first elected president in 2000, before being re-elected in 2004, 2012 and 2018. The three other candidates on the ballot are low-profile politicians from token opposition parties that toe the Kremlin's line.

The election takes place against the backdrop of a ruthless crackdown that has crippled independent media and prominent rights groups, giving Putin full control of the political system as Moscow's war in Ukraine enters its third year. Russian citizens were forced to cast their votes in presidential elections from their beds today as polling officials set out to garner a high turnout for incumbent president Vladimir Putin. Dystopian images emerged of an elderly, bed-ridden man looking over his shoulder as a stern-faced woman presumed to be his wife thrusts their voting cards into an empty ballot box held by an election official. Meanwhile, a pair of newlyweds were filmed rushing into a polling station - still sporting a veil, resplendent white dress and smart suit - having cut short their wedding celebrations so they could cast their votes as early as possible.

Speaking to journalists in Moscow, one voter, Lyudmila Petrova, encapsulated the attitude of many Russians ahead of the election. 'I support Putin and, of course, I will vote for him... he raised Russia up from its knees. And Russia will defeat the West and Ukraine. You cannot defeat Russia - ever. 'Have you in the West gone completely mad? What is Ukraine to do with you?' Voters are casting their ballots Friday through to Sunday at polling stations across the vast country's 11 time zones, as well as in illegally annexed regions of Ukraine. Russians also can vote online, the first time the option has been used in a presidential contest; more than 200,000 people in Moscow voted online soon after the polls opened, authorities said. Observers have little to no expectation that the election will be free and fair. 'Putin has no competitors - he is at a completely different level,' one senior Russian lawmaker told Reuters on condition of anonymity.

'The West made a very serious mistake by helping to unify a large part of the Russian elite and the Russian population around Putin with its sanctions and its vilification of Russia.' One brave Moscow woman made her feelings known as she staged a protest against the election by pouring a liquid into a ballot box. Seen on video, she placed her unfolded voting paper in the ballot box, then emptied disinfectant from a bottle, ruining the papers inside. The dark green liquid is zelenka - a dye widely used as a disinfectant for wounds by hospitals in Russia and other ex-Soviet countries. The woman - believed to be 20 - took a picture of her act, and was immediately detained. The act was an apparent protest against an election widely seen as rigged in favor of the Russian dictator, however, her motive is unconfirmed. The Russian Investigative Committee said the unnamed woman had been held and would face interrogation over her act.

'The suspect will be taken to a department of the capital's Investigative Committee, where investigators will begin interrogating her,' said a statement. She is suspected to have broken Russia's election law. A similar act of protest also occurred in Borisoglebsk, a town in the Voronezh region. A middle-aged woman apparently emptied a smaller quantity of the liquid was poured in a ballot box. It comes as a senior Russian source has said that Putin's tenure as leader was not a question of politics but of his health which seemed robust. He has no visible successor. Beyond the fact that voters have been presented with no viable candidate other than Putin, the possibilities for independent monitoring are very limited. Only registered candidates or state-backed advisory bodies can assign observers to polling stations, decreasing the likelihood of independent watchdogs.

With balloting over three days in nearly 100,000 polling stations in the country, any true monitoring is difficult anyway. 'The elections in Russia as a whole are a sham. The Kremlin controls who's on the ballot. The Kremlin controls how they can campaign. To say nothing of being able to control every aspect of the voting and the vote-counting process,' said Sam Greene, director for Democratic Resilience at the Center for European Policy Analysis in Washington. Ukraine and the West have also condemned Russia for holding the vote in Ukrainian regions that Moscow's forces have seized and occupied. Putin ordered a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 after eight years of conflict in eastern Ukraine between Kyiv's forces on one side and pro-Russian Ukrainians and Russian proxies on the other.

Tens of thousands of soldiers have been killed and many more wounded on both sides, thousands of Ukrainian civilians are dead and Ukraine's economy and infrastructure have suffered damage worth hundreds of billions of dollars. The West, which says Putin is a threat well beyond the former Soviet Union, has supplied Ukraine with hundreds of billions of dollars worth of aid, weapons and top-level intelligence. Western leaders accuse Putin of waging a brutal imperial-style war aimed at restoring Russia's global clout. Putin casts the war as part of an existential battle with a declining and decadent West which he says humiliated Russia after the Berlin Wall fell in 1989 by encroaching on what Putin considers to be Moscow's sphere of influence, including Ukraine.

That appeals to many Russians who are suspicious about the West's politics and intentions, if not its consumer goods. Top Kremlin officials, some sporting sweatshirts bearing the words 'Putin's Team', speak openly of war with NATO . Putin's approval rating is currently 86%, up from 71% shortly before the invasion of Ukraine, according to Levada Centre, a respected Russian pollster. Putin's rating also jumped during the 2008 war with Georgia and the 2014 annexation of Crimea from Ukraine. Now, after a disastrous first year and a grinding second, Russian forces have the advantage on Ukraine's battlefields, where they are making slow but steady gains in the third year of all-out conflict. But Ukraine has made Moscow look vulnerable behind the front line: Long-range drone attacks have struck deep inside Russia, while high-tech drones have put its Black Sea fleet on the defensive.

In many ways, Ukraine is at the heart of this election, political analysts and opposition figures say. Putin wants to use his all-but-assured electoral victory as evidence that the war and his handling of it enjoys widespread support. Russian television and a sophisticated social media operation project Putin as a robust patriot and deride Western leaders such as Biden as weak, foolish and deceitful. 'For many Russians, who are partly inspired by propaganda but most importantly by their own inner convictions, Russia is in an age-old struggle with the West - and what is currently happening is an episode in this struggle,' said Alexei Levinson, head of sociocultural research at Levada. 'Those who express such feelings in our surveys consider themselves to be participants in some way in this struggle with the West. They are like soccer fans who imagine they are participants in the soccer match.'

The opposition, meanwhile, hopes to use the vote to demonstrate their discontent with both the war and the Kremlin. The Kremlin banned two politicians from the ballot who sought to run on an antiwar agenda and attracted genuine - albeit not overwhelming - support, thus depriving the voters of any choice on the 'main issue of Russia's political agenda,' said political analyst Abbas Gallyamov, who used to work as Putin's speechwriter. Russia's scattered opposition has urged those unhappy with Putin or the war to show up at the polls at noon on Sunday, the final day of voting, in protest. The strategy was endorsed by Navalny not long before his death. 'We need to use election day to show that we exist and there are many of us, we are actual, living, real people and we are against Putin. What to do next is up to you. You can vote for any candidate except Putin. You could ruin your ballot,' his widow, Yulia Navalnaya, said.

How well this strategy will work remains unclear. Golos, Russia's renowned independent election observer group, said in a report this week that authorities were 'doing everything so that the people don't notice the very fact of the election happening.' The watchdog described the campaign ahead of the vote as 'practically unnoticeable' and 'the most vapid' since 2000 when Golos was founded and started monitoring elections in Russia. Putin's campaigning was cloaked in presidential activities, and other candidates were 'demonstrably passive,' the report said. State media dedicated less airtime to the election than in 2018 when Putin was last elected, according to Golos. Instead of promoting the vote to ensure a desired turnout, authorities appear to be betting on pressuring voters they can control - for instance, Russians who work in state-run companies or institutions - to show up at the polls, the group said.

The watchdog itself has also been swept up in the crackdown: Its co-chair, Grigory Melkonyants, is in jail awaiting trial on charges widely seen as an attempt to pressure the group ahead of the election. 'The current elections will not be able to reflect the real mood of the people,' Golos said in the report. 'The distance between citizens and decision-making about the fate of the country has become greater than ever.'
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...&ei=13#image=1

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Russia has enforced voting in occupied parts of Ukraine at gunpoint in Russia it is not different no guns, but they know what you vote if you did not vote for Putin or make the vote incorrect or do not vote you are coming automatically on the list.

Ukrainian intelligence 'hacking Russian online voting systems'

Ukraine's military intelligence agency (HUR) said it is hacking online voting systems in Russia as the first day of the country's presidential election got underway on March 15. A source in the agency confirmed to the Kyiv Independent it was currently making attempts to disrupt the vote, adding: "There are no elections or democracy there anyway." https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainia...oting-systems/

If it is not the Ukrainians hacking this the Russians will do it themselves.

[mapuc]

It's not like they don't receive ammo at the front-They do, but it's far from enough.

Ukraine lack more than ammos.

Despite this, they are giving the Russian a fight for the bucks.

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