2009 SUBSIM Werewolf Hunt - Signup and Q&A Thread - Page 18

Penelope_Grey · 02-12-09, 12:02 PM

To be honest Neal I am starting to think the Deck is a little stacked against Humans here... Or it could be Im simply too thick to be any good at playing this game.... most likely the latter.

I mean the werewolves for all we know are posting as openly as the humans are... during the night at that. During a lynch vote if we discuss it obviously the werewolves are going to save thier own skin by throwing people off the scent.

Also people are putting other people in their RP's and there are multiple actions both from the character and from other characters using a character.

I don't have a fliping clue what the hell is going on... no matter how many times I read and reread the thread.

Hitman · 02-12-09, 12:35 PM

The problem in my opinion is that humans are not following the strategy that would be most logic

. It needs a bit patience, and at least two nights, but here's the best way to start solving the problem:

Day 1: All humans don't vote lynching anyone, because they can't be sure who is who. Because humans are a majority, nobody will get lynched.

Night 1: The Seer identifies someone. It might be a human, wolf, another Seer or a Guardian.

Day 2: Still no vote to lynch, nobody dies in front of the firing squad.

Night 2: The Seer contacts the person he identified (Unless he was a wolf, obviously) and tells him he knows his identity. That establishes inmediately a relationship based in trust, because the identified one can recognize the Seer, and the Seer is sure of who he has contacted. The following nights, the Seer has to identify and contact more humans, spreading amongst them who he already identified as human. Obviously, any guardian already contacted by the Seer should provide him continuous protection.

Day 3: By now probably well founded votes for lynching can start, as werewolves will have been identified either positively or negatively.

As you see, the problem is that the initiative is in the hands of the seers, and the rest of humans must have patience, even if some of them are dying in the meantime. But none of the two requisites seem to have been met here, hence werewolves -who can't be as organized- are winning

JCWolf · 02-12-09, 12:48 PM

It is not that easy Hitman...

What Seer knows who are the Humans and who are not ???

What Seer contacts another player knowing exactely that that player is human ???

I have to agree with Pen here, thought the game was a awesome expir. for me,
I never had anybodys contact to do what ever...But offcorse from Neal S. to vote and stuff....

Nobody wants to take a chance, there are some of the players that posted so short posts so far that you have litlle info but the Posts from Neal Stv to follow
or take conclusions...

If you see carefully the people who developed more play and posts were allways the same ones...

I think that everyone should get more involved in the game so that things are easyer for all...

Raptor1 · 02-12-09, 12:53 PM

What if the Seer is murdered on the first day?

Onkel Neal · 02-12-09, 12:54 PM

Once the game is over and we can recap what really happened, who did what, etc it will be a lot clearer for you

And interesting for you as well, I think.

Raptor1 · 02-12-09, 12:59 PM

Are werewolves even vulnerable to holy water? I thought that was only vampires (Unlike silver)

Hitman · 02-12-09, 01:08 PM

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What Seer knows who are the Humans and who are not ???

Theoretically a Seer can see each night the true identity of someone, isn't that so?

Oberon · 02-12-09, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

Are werewolves even vulnerable to holy water? I thought that was only vampires (Unlike silver)

They're not vulnerable to holy water at all.

Onkel Neal · 02-12-09, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

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What Seer knows who are the Humans and who are not ???

Theoretically a Seer can see each night the true identity of someone, isn't that so?

That's right. The problem is, they have to convince others that they are a Seer and they can condemn or support other players.

That's the basis of the whole game--in addition to the role playing, everyone has to determine who they trust by their actions and words.

Raptor1 · 02-12-09, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor1

Are werewolves even vulnerable to holy water? I thought that was only vampires (Unlike silver)

They're not vulnerable to holy water at all.

Maybe I should've told ALL of you that story my mother told me about werewolves instead of just Jimbuna on the first night...

JCWolf · 02-12-09, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor1

Are werewolves even vulnerable to holy water? I thought that was only vampires (Unlike silver)

You can check this ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werewolves

Chad · 02-12-09, 01:15 PM

Aha! Now I'm useless.. unless

Penelope_Grey · 02-12-09, 01:16 PM

Well I tell you what... if we don't bag a werewolf on this next lynching... Im committing character suicide.

Raptor1 · 02-12-09, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCWolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor1

Are werewolves even vulnerable to holy water? I thought that was only vampires (Unlike silver)

You can check this ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werewolves

Yes, I know what it says there, and I was pretty sure they weren't even beforehand, just making sure

XabbaRus · 02-12-09, 02:09 PM

Can I murder a character? Just asking this is a question from XabbaRus forum member not game character.

02-12-09, 12:02 PM	#256
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	To be honest Neal I am starting to think the Deck is a little stacked against Humans here... Or it could be Im simply too thick to be any good at playing this game.... most likely the latter. I mean the werewolves for all we know are posting as openly as the humans are... during the night at that. During a lynch vote if we discuss it obviously the werewolves are going to save thier own skin by throwing people off the scent. Also people are putting other people in their RP's and there are multiple actions both from the character and from other characters using a character. I don't have a fliping clue what the hell is going on... no matter how many times I read and reread the thread. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too! Last edited by Penelope_Grey; 02-12-09 at 12:32 PM.

02-12-09, 12:35 PM	#257
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	The problem in my opinion is that humans are not following the strategy that would be most logic . It needs a bit patience, and at least two nights, but here's the best way to start solving the problem: Day 1: All humans don't vote lynching anyone, because they can't be sure who is who. Because humans are a majority, nobody will get lynched. Night 1: The Seer identifies someone. It might be a human, wolf, another Seer or a Guardian. Day 2: Still no vote to lynch, nobody dies in front of the firing squad. Night 2: The Seer contacts the person he identified (Unless he was a wolf, obviously) and tells him he knows his identity. That establishes inmediately a relationship based in trust, because the identified one can recognize the Seer, and the Seer is sure of who he has contacted. The following nights, the Seer has to identify and contact more humans, spreading amongst them who he already identified as human. Obviously, any guardian already contacted by the Seer should provide him continuous protection. Day 3: By now probably well founded votes for lynching can start, as werewolves will have been identified either positively or negatively. As you see, the problem is that the initiative is in the hands of the seers, and the rest of humans must have patience, even if some of them are dying in the meantime. But none of the two requisites seem to have been met here, hence werewolves -who can't be as organized- are winning __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

02-12-09, 12:48 PM	#258
JCWolf Admiral Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain , Crossing Gibraltar! Posts: 2,292 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 1	It is not that easy Hitman... What Seer knows who are the Humans and who are not ??? What Seer contacts another player knowing exactely that that player is human ??? I have to agree with Pen here, thought the game was a awesome expir. for me, I never had anybodys contact to do what ever...But offcorse from Neal S. to vote and stuff.... Nobody wants to take a chance, there are some of the players that posted so short posts so far that you have litlle info but the Posts from Neal Stv to follow or take conclusions... If you see carefully the people who developed more play and posts were allways the same ones... I think that everyone should get more involved in the game so that things are easyer for all... __________________ JCWolf Mediafire SHIII Page User name : JCWolf Password : stefre@jcm

02-12-09, 12:53 PM	#259
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	What if the Seer is murdered on the first day? __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

02-12-09, 12:54 PM	#260
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,294 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Once the game is over and we can recap what really happened, who did what, etc it will be a lot clearer for you And interesting for you as well, I think. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

02-12-09, 12:59 PM	#261
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Are werewolves even vulnerable to holy water? I thought that was only vampires (Unlike silver) __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

02-12-09, 01:15 PM	#267
Chad ACE Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,274 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Aha! Now I'm useless.. unless __________________

02-12-09, 01:16 PM	#268
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well I tell you what... if we don't bag a werewolf on this next lynching... Im committing character suicide. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

02-12-09, 02:09 PM	#270
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Can I murder a character? Just asking this is a question from XabbaRus forum member not game character. __________________