Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2 - Page 17

Jimbuna · 08-02-23, 11:57 AM

tonschk · 08-02-23, 12:45 PM

Yes Agree

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

[URL] I see this absolutely as a proxy war by the West, it always was, and its about turning into just another defeat, another war the West has lost ONCE AGAIN. We have become experts in loosing wars and interventions.

mapuc · 08-02-23, 12:49 PM

It ain't over until the fat lady sings.

Markus

Skybird · 08-02-23, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonschk

Yes Agree

A war started by fascist Russia to feast on Ukraine, and then the West came into play to help the victim to fight this proxy war. Well - still eager to agree with me?
There are worlds between us.

tonschk · 08-02-23, 03:41 PM

ERITREA PRESIDENT REVEAL ON WHO STARTED THE RUSSIA UKRAINE WAR OF WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY NAZI NATO

Catfish · 08-02-23, 04:38 PM

Nosy Nazi Nato Nasi Goreng and whatever
No twist, spin and bending of reality will turn the total failure of the Naziputin-african meeting into something positive

Jimbuna · 08-03-23, 05:16 AM

Rockstar · 08-03-23, 05:17 AM

1. Russians suffered 200,000+ killed and wounded
2. Several hundred thousand Russian men have fled the country to avoid the press gangs.
3. Desertion of RU soldiers in combat units now significant.

Jimbuna · 08-03-23, 05:53 AM

Skybird · 08-03-23, 06:11 AM

Colonel Reisner's assessment of the current situation and the outlook sound most sober, mildly said. What he says confirmes my subjective impression formed by what I pick up in the media - and what the media do not say. Things do not go well for Ukraine. Minor tactical gains here and there do not change that, but in the East, way north of Bakhmut, Russia's counteroffensive seems to slowly gain ground: two steps forward, one step back.

https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Meanwhile Putin is anythign but close to regime fall, and the economy stubbornly refuses to collapse, too. In fact he obviously prepares a widening and deepening of the war. Russia can mobilse so many more men than Ukraine can, and recent chnage sin laws indicate that this is what will come soon. This will sooner or later become a problem for Ukraine, these new troops may not be well trained and may have low morale, but in war overwhelmingly huge numbers have a charm of their own. Putin seems to be determined to turn Ukraine into a wasteland that serves as a puffer zone between NATO and Russia. And he wants to rip its industrial and agricultural heart out.

Jimbuna · 08-03-23, 06:22 AM

^ Then perhaps NATO have a stark choice to make and pretty soon.

Skybird · 08-03-23, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^ Then perhaps NATO have a stark choice to make and pretty soon.

Pah, just wait for Trump Messiah and all will be good in just one day.

tonschk · 08-03-23, 06:46 AM

MALI DECLARES THEY WON`T ALLOW NATO TO DESTROY NIGER AS THEY DID WITH LIBYA

Jimbuna · 08-03-23, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Pah, just wait for Trump Messiah and all will be good in just one day.

Then the band played "Believe it if you like"

Rockstar · 08-03-23, 07:14 AM

In the past 4 days at least 27 drafting offices were set on fire in Russia and temporarily occupied Crimea.

Just yesterday there were about 20 attempts to set drafting offices on fire. Even retirees were involved, the oldest is 84 years old.

Yuriy Shvytkin, deputy chairman of the Russian parliament defense committee, believes it is quite possiible that ordinary people started setting fire to military enlistment offices because of emotional shock after the Russian parliament and the Federation Council approved the law on raising draft age to 30 years with the lower limit of 18 years.

So, the government realizes that it is in conflict with the people, and mass arson of military enlistment offices is an attempt of the latter to demonstrate their discontent. All that the Russian authorities and Reisner can do is to intensify repression and propaganda.

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tonschk Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,200 Downloads: 172 Uploads: 0	Eritrea President shock reveal on who started the Russia-Ukraine war ERITREA PRESIDENT REVEAL ON WHO STARTED THE RUSSIA UKRAINE WAR OF WHICH WAS OBVIOUSLY NAZI NATO __________________ What we do in life echoes in Eternity

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08-03-23, 06:11 AM	#250
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 41,489 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Colonel Reisner's assessment of the current situation and the outlook sound most sober, mildly said. What he says confirmes my subjective impression formed by what I pick up in the media - and what the media do not say. Things do not go well for Ukraine. Minor tactical gains here and there do not change that, but in the East, way north of Bakhmut, Russia's counteroffensive seems to slowly gain ground: two steps forward, one step back. https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp Meanwhile Putin is anythign but close to regime fall, and the economy stubbornly refuses to collapse, too. In fact he obviously prepares a widening and deepening of the war. Russia can mobilse so many more men than Ukraine can, and recent chnage sin laws indicate that this is what will come soon. This will sooner or later become a problem for Ukraine, these new troops may not be well trained and may have low morale, but in war overwhelmingly huge numbers have a charm of their own. Putin seems to be determined to turn Ukraine into a wasteland that serves as a puffer zone between NATO and Russia. And he wants to rip its industrial and agricultural heart out. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-03-23, 06:22 AM	#251
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 185,353 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	^ Then perhaps NATO have a stark choice to make and pretty soon. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

08-03-23, 06:46 AM	#253
tonschk Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,200 Downloads: 172 Uploads: 0	MALI DECLARES THEY WON`T ALLOW NATO TO DESTROY NIGER AS THEY DID WITH LIBYA MALI DECLARES THEY WON`T ALLOW NATO TO DESTROY NIGER AS THEY DID WITH LIBYA __________________ What we do in life echoes in Eternity

08-03-23, 07:14 AM	#255
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,575 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	In the past 4 days at least 27 drafting offices were set on fire in Russia and temporarily occupied Crimea. Just yesterday there were about 20 attempts to set drafting offices on fire. Even retirees were involved, the oldest is 84 years old. Yuriy Shvytkin, deputy chairman of the Russian parliament defense committee, believes it is quite possiible that ordinary people started setting fire to military enlistment offices because of emotional shock after the Russian parliament and the Federation Council approved the law on raising draft age to 30 years with the lower limit of 18 years. So, the government realizes that it is in conflict with the people, and mass arson of military enlistment offices is an attempt of the latter to demonstrate their discontent. All that the Russian authorities and Reisner can do is to intensify repression and propaganda.