The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar

[Onkel Neal]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/02/europe...ims/index.html

There are two brands of terror targeting Turkey now: Kurdish and radical Islamist.


Many of the victims were very young.

Lubna Ghasnawi was among the glamorous crowds of young partygoers gathered inside Istanbul's Reina nightclub to ring in 2017 in the early hours of Sunday when a gunman opened fire, killing her and at least 38 other people.

The 34-year-old entrepreneur was one of seven victims from Saudi Arabia who had traveled to Istanbul to attend New Year's festivities, according to Turkish state-run news agency Anadolu.

Ghashwani worked full-time as a communications manager for one of Saudi Arabia's largest banks and also co-owned a start-up with her sister called Exclusave Card, the first student discount card in Saudi Arabia.
A friend of Gashwani described her as a "torch of energy."


Leanne Nasser, a Palestinian from the town of Tira, begged her parents to let her go to Istanbul to celebrate New Year's Eve with three friends. She had never before traveled abroad. At first her father refused to let her go. But her aunt, Layal Masarweh, intervened on her behalf.

"Her father was totally against that," Masarweh, who helped convince Nasser's father to let her go, told CNN. "He was saying that Istanbul is too dangerous and that she should not go at all. But she insisted, saying that nothing will happen to her."

Nasser, 18, had finished high school in June and had big plans for her future. She worked at a dental clinic and wanted to become a dentist herself one day.

I'm sick of this.

[eddie]

Yeah Neal, I agree, its really getting old!

[ikalugin]

One of my sister's friends was just outside the club during the attack.

[em2nought]

Sometimes the old solutions are the best solutions.

[Buddahaid]

What a smart idea. No doubt that would solve everything.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

What a smart idea. No doubt that would solve everything.

Destroying humanity would solve it's problems but I think it is not a constructive way to go around things.

[Jimbuna]

For me the most worrying aspect is the realisation that there is no end in sight nor is there likely to be.

[ikalugin]

To use the words of a Hungarian - "it is a tragedy of man to endure and to believe".

On topic - well, we would get through it. The economic revolution with automisation that is comming worries me more.

[eddie]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

For me the most worrying aspect is the realisation that there is no end in sight nor is there likely to be.

You're right Jim. If they take back Mosul, and Aleppo and push out Daesh, the insurgency will go on unless the Sunni's decide different. Don't see that happening at all.

[ikalugin]

Don't see that happening at all.

Well if we take Assad's critics at face value then Assad would genocyde/displace all the sunnis who do not support him in the region in that case.

[Skybird]

I wonder what role the Turkish secret service plays in the Reina attack. The attack on the nightclub plays into the cards of Erdoghan and the cards of the conservatives. Friday, the boss of the state minstry of religion has condemned New Years Eve parties and Western lifestyle, and the club was on an unofficial black list of conservatives. The police placed one 20 year old officer in front of the club, despite massive threats against it.

Erdoghan has a record of playing foul. I do not say the attacker may not have had links to IS. What is more relaistic to think about is that maybe warnings of an imminent threat were supressed and secret service or police withheld info that indicated that an attack was coming. Think that is unrealistic? I say again: Erdoghan has a record of playing foul, and he has killed yria and Russia long before 2016, repeatedly. The whole "coup" against the government three months ago smells like having been a staged event. No, you better do not rule anything out regarding Erdoghan. I'm preaching this since over ten years now.

Meanwhile German politicians had to learn from German intelligence service that the Turkish DITIB Imams that the Turkish state sends to Germany, spy for the Turkish secret service and agitate against the constitutonal order of Germany. Has there been a political outcry, a protest, a single word of anger? Of course not. Mind you, its Germany. You rather make a cactus speaking.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by eddie

You're right Jim. If they take back Mosul, and Aleppo and push out Daesh, the insurgency will go on unless the Sunni's decide different. Don't see that happening at all.

Basically.....what a right royal mess

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

What a smart idea. No doubt that would solve everything.

It's a smarter idea than letting your enemies know that your best deterrent again naughty behavior was never on the table to begin with.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by em2nought

It's a smarter idea than letting your enemies know that your best deterrent again naughty behavior was never on the table to begin with.

I think you would find that akin to this.

[Jimbuna]

Turkey has arrested a number of people of Uighur origin over a deadly nightclub attack that killed 39, the state-run news agency reports.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-38517847