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Old 11-19-15, 03:54 PM   #226
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And then there's this guy

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Old 11-19-15, 05:05 PM   #227
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The best would be that the rebels contact the Russians and give some terms of surrender that the Russians will force on Assad.
Full amnesty and such.

And then give Assad a crimean summer home, put some puppet that both sides won't have trouble with in Damascus and hope Assad chokes on a hedgehog.

You post made me remember an idea i had and forgot

My idea is a two-part way to peace

Part 1. We help Assad to win the war(the war-part)
Part 2. We use any possible diplomatically power to get Assad to resign and find a safehaven in e.g Iran or Russia and then let the people in Syria decide what they want by free election(the Peace-part)

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Old 11-19-15, 05:19 PM   #228
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Yeah, I agree with you. If I am not mistaken, there is not just one rebel group fighting against Assad, but multiple. Before the groups could figure out who gets what, it could take years of more civil war.
Just like Libya, exactly what's happening over there!
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Old 11-19-15, 07:41 PM   #229
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A friends friend wrote this

have used google translate

"When our parents came to Europe, the so-called first-generation immigrants, in the 70 & 80's, they came because they were persecuted and tired of war, tired of religion fanaticism and / or limited freedom of religion or poverty. In short, they dreamed of better living conditions in the form of jobs, education, and especially SAFETY AND FREEDOM. Unfortunately, part of 2 and 3-generation immigrant, is about to throw it all overboard! Why ? Because there is blinkered black heart medieval dark men coming and telling young people how to live their lives according to the Koran and other sacred writings. They tell them that it's okay to use violence and terror to achieve their goals. They cause them to believe that there is 72 virgin just waiting on them in heaven! But it's not true . Dear 2 & 3 Generations immigrants wake up, speak out, don't let them manipulate you/us in this way. And in Allah or Mohammed's name we should not make our new country, to a country our parents fled from!


At some point we run out of countries to escape to! "

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Old 11-19-15, 08:50 PM   #230
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And then there's this guy

Father of the Angel of Death.

He is a Shiite a member of an all Shiite militia in Iraq. He uses an M4 primarily though says that he was trained by Iranians also with Hezbollah. His own words seems like a nice guy I suppose. He fought aginst Americans and now is supported by them go figure. I am thinking this guy is 90% propaganda.



Just watching that video you can see why things are so stalemated by and large neither side has any real discipline.

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Old 11-19-15, 09:11 PM   #231
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The next time you are having a bad day just think to yourself you could be this guy.

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Old 11-20-15, 01:54 AM   #232
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He is a Shiite a member of an all Shiite militia in Iraq. He uses an M4 primarily though says that he was trained by Iranians also with Hezbollah. His own words seems like a nice guy I suppose. He fought aginst Americans and now is supported by them go figure. I am thinking this guy is 90% propaganda.
He was on the US most wanted list, so he can do some serious damage.

But yeah, som eof it seeems like tall tales, but never understimate the power of tall tales
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Old 11-20-15, 06:03 AM   #233
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The series continues with the latest episode. Allahu-akhbar-shouters have stormed a hotel in Mali and took 170 guests as hostages. While writing this the BBC reports the storming of the hotel has begun.
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Old 11-20-15, 07:59 AM   #234
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^Currently around 80 freed and at least 3 dead.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-34877069
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That's a pretty low death toll, all things considered. 170 hostages, 18 dead. Could have been a heckuva lot worse. Kudos to the forces on the ground for responding decisively.

CENTCOM put this out on twitter earlier:

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Old 11-20-15, 01:16 PM   #236
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Also from out of Syria, a picture of an Iranian F14 escorting a Russian Tu-95 en-route to a cruise missile strike.



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Kuwait bust's a group of men supporting Daesh. They were trying to get Daesh some FN6 portable air defense systems!! Get them from the Ukraine and ship them through Turkey. Wonder if they got any of them through?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...ell/ar-BBndVhB

Qatar had shipped some of these systems to Syrian rebels back in 2013. They brought down a Mi-8 chopper with one. Being Chinese made, it is also reported that it isn't very reliable. The New York Times has cited rebels that have complained the missile's performance, such as failings to fire or lock on and even two premature explosions while firing, which killed two rebels and wounded four more.
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Old 11-20-15, 02:53 PM   #238
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Old 11-20-15, 04:20 PM   #239
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And the French seem to take a stern aproach even in diplomacy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ved/?tid=sm_fb

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Ahead of Iranian President Hassan Rouhani’s landmark European trip kicking off this weekend, French officials reportedly nixed plans for a formal meal in Paris with President François Hollande following a dispute over the menu. The Iranians, according to France’s RTL Radio, insisted on a wine-free meal with halal meat — a request based on Islamic codes that amounted to culinary sacrilege in France, a nation that puts the secular ideals of the Republic above all else.

it's not like they'll force the Iranians to drink that wine
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Kuwait bust's a group of men supporting Daesh. They were trying to get Daesh some FN6 portable air defense systems!! Get them from the Ukraine and ship them through Turkey. Wonder if they got any of them through?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...ell/ar-BBndVhB

Qatar had shipped some of these systems to Syrian rebels back in 2013. They brought down a Mi-8 chopper with one. Being Chinese made, it is also reported that it isn't very reliable. The New York Times has cited rebels that have complained the missile's performance, such as failings to fire or lock on and even two premature explosions while firing, which killed two rebels and wounded four more.

One wonders perhaps they wanted them to fail. The Chinese version of Eldest Son or the Quatari wanted them to fail.
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