US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

Exactly

"The dead only know one thing, it is better to be alive"

Guess you didn't understand my post. That's ok. You seldom seem to. I understand yours, however. SMDH.

[Otto Harkaman]

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

No I understood that you were never going to answer truthfully, you are very happy you are alive and that you weren't aborted.

I hope you facilitate many deaths, if people want to kill their children so be it.

I answered you very truthfully. I could not have possibly desired one way or the other, as a fetus. Fetuses don't have a choice, one way or the other. And my comment about my being alive because my mother was given a choice seems to have sailed right over your head.

Hyperbolizing pro-choice by accusing people who take that stance as 'children killers' who 'facilitate death' is the worst form of dis-intellectual pearl clutching. It would be quite entertaining if it didn't mimic how actual conservative politicians seem to think, by and large.

[Arlo]

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Arlo

A single item law can't be 'line itemed.'

That's not how the law gets written and amended.

Legislators will write legislation in a manner so as to potentially tie it to unrelated legislation all the time. When that bill is presented that has changed to 10 different sections of the law, the governor can pass whatever portion he wants and line item veto the rest.

BTW, here's the text of the change to the law:

https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87...l/SB00008F.HTM

You'll note that if parts of the law are deemed unconstitutional, they'll sever that portion while retaining the rest.

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by Arlo

This is very very simple.

Are you a biological female? Did a biological male ejaculate into your vagina? Did neither of you use birth control? Go to the drugstore and get the morning-after pill the next day. You don't need a prescription.

Did you use birth control and still concerned you could get pregnant? Buy a pregnancy test at the drugstore before six weeks. Or go to your doctor or planned parenthood before six weeks.

You were raped? Why wouldn't you ask for a morning after pill when the cops call the ambulance to take you to the hospital?

What this change to the law does is force people to either be responsible or go outside the state if they procrastinate.

Some will say "but the woman may not know she can become pregnant until after 6 weeks..." My answer to that is: are you a biological female whose vagina was ejaculated into by a biological male?

[August]

I once knew a girl who swore that she had gotten pregnant from sitting on a public toilet seat. She knew exactly when it happened.

[Arlo]

Originally Posted by August

I once knew a girl who swore that she had gotten pregnant from sitting on a public toilet seat. She knew exactly when it happened.

I'm sure you did.

[Rockstar]

I new a girl who was married and got pregnant, with twins! That scared the hell out of me especially since she wasn’t my wife. I know, I’m going straight to hell.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I new a girl who was married and got pregnant, with twins! That scared the hell out of me especially since she wasn’t my wife. I know, I’m going straight to hell.

Is this a contest? Nothing happened here oh look at that shiney thing over there....

[Reece]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I new a girl who was married and got pregnant, with twins! That scared the hell out of me especially since she wasn’t my wife. I know, I’m going straight to hell.

Oh you wicked boy!! But was it good?

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

This is very very simple.
You were raped? Why wouldn't you ask for a morning after pill when the cops call the ambulance to take you to the hospital?

You've grown up (mostly) in a family that doesn't tell you about the birds and the bees because they are embarassed or too hung up themselves to even discuss it?

You were raped by your father but you are too young and afraid to do anything about it and hope it will go away because you don't want to get another beating but it doesn't just go away?

You were raped by your boyfriend but you don't want to get him in trouble because you love him, or you're afraid of him?

It's not only about people who have a choice or are immoral. It's not that obvious.

It's not as simple as you want to make it.

[Dowly]

Why Satanists may be the last hope to take down Texas’s abortion bill:
https://fortune.com/2021/09/03/why-s...abortion-bill/

The group argues that they should have access to the abortion pills Misoprostol and Mifepristone for religious use through the The Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) which was created to allow Native Americans access to peyote for religious rituals. Under these rules, the Temple is arguing that they should be granted those same rights to use abortifacients for their own religious purposes.

Gotta love these guys

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Why Satanists may be the last hope to take down Texas’s abortion bill:
https://fortune.com/2021/09/03/why-s...abortion-bill/

Gotta love these guys

Pretty funny how this stuff can cycle back and bite one on ones righteous arse.

Anyway, it's just not possible to legislate morality in a free society without making that society less than free. It's funny how the less government republicans can embrase big government when the laws are to their liking. Look in the mirror hypocrites.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

You've grown up (mostly) in a family that doesn't tell you about the birds and the bees because they are embarassed or too hung up themselves to even discuss it?

You were raped by your father but you are too young and afraid to do anything about it and hope it will go away because you don't want to get another beating but it doesn't just go away?

You were raped by your boyfriend but you don't want to get him in trouble because you love him, or you're afraid of him?

It's not only about people who have a choice or are immoral. It's not that obvious.

It's not as simple as you want to make it.

You forgot the possibility of aliens and immaculate conception. There is absolutely no law barring a female victim of rape or incest from seeking help. Being afraid, for whatever reason, is not IMO an abortion rights issue. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. The damage done in the above circumstances are much more complicated and harder to fix than just making a trip to the abortion clinic.

The new law basically empowers citizens, not the State, to sue abortion care providers should they abort a fetus after the 6th week. But the kicker is that the new law states that a man wether an alien, divine, relative or rapist who impregnates a woman through rape or incest cannot file a lawsuit. Seems to me then in such cases allowances will be made and should the victim desire an abortion after the 6th week no one can sue the abortion provider. That’s my take.