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keltos01 · 07-09-09, 04:26 PM

keltos

Hitman · 07-09-09, 04:35 PM

Ah I understand now....yes the deck for the guns follows exactly the same profile as the main deck, only higher.

BTW remember that the texture of the upper part of the deck must look the same as the main deck, and in the sides of the gun deck, the texture will need to be able to display the flooding holes.

Hitman · 07-09-09, 04:38 PM

We cross posted

Yes it looks much better now, but still some small gaps are visible at certain places. Also, the shape of the hull is continued in the gun platform, i.e. the curvature of the hull as it goes up and meets the gun deck must continue naturally, not suddenly turn vertical in the gun deck.

I'll post a picture, wait a minute

Hitman · 07-09-09, 04:43 PM

This is the side cut, you can see that the gun platform follows the profile and inclination of the main deck. At the central part, it keeps curving inward, and at the wider parts, where the guns are located, it is vertical the same as the sides of the hull which protude.

keltos01 · 07-09-09, 04:54 PM

boy are you hard to please !

tired now... nearly midnight here !

as for the holes, the textures can be added : the sides, top etc of the gun deck are all separate pieces in the dds file

hence the wooden deck I made here in a couple minutes.

keltos

CDR Resser · 07-09-09, 08:17 PM

Looking good.

Can't wait for the finished product..

keltos01 · 07-10-09, 11:22 AM

keltos

keltos01 · 07-10-09, 02:45 PM

I made the bump map with this tutorial (just bumped it up) and changed this in the upc file :

[UserPlayerUnit 1]
ID=Narwhal
NameDisplayable=Narwhal
UnitName= USS Narwhal
Type=Narwhal
UpgradeClass=3
UnitInterval= 1941-01-01, 1963-07-11
ExternalClassName=SSNarwhal
Nationality=American
CrewRanks=12
Evolution= Normal
Damage= 0
TextureName=data/Submarine/NSS_Narwhal/NSS_Narwhal_T01.tga
LightmapTextureName=data/Submarine/NSS_Narwhal/NSS_Narwhal_O01.tga
NormalmapTextureName=data/Submarine/NSS_Narwhal/NSS_Narwhal_N01.tga
MenuSilhouetteTextureName= Narwhal_Class_01.tga

here it goes :

@Skwasjer : I wish I knew how to make one for the Conning Tower ....

keltos

Captain von Keldunk · 07-11-09, 12:38 AM

You can see steps to deck from gun platform both sides of
bow gun, Also rear gun has them too

. That is when sailor wanted to go to deck from gun platform he did not jump, but used steps.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0817214.jpg

keltos01 · 07-11-09, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain von Keldunk

You can see steps to deck from gun platform both sides of
bow gun, Also rear gun has them too

. That is when sailor wanted to go to deck from gun platform he did not jump, but used steps.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0817214.jpg

close up :

the fore hatch comes directly behind the cable strut, which I will have to modify to look like this one.

The gun platform is set on a whole bunch of struts too, I guess to help with the water exiting the boat, that could be 3 Ded.

I also notice a hand rail on the front part of the tower, the small platform there (approx one man tall) has a railing. Our tower might be a bit 2 tall, although verified from the blueprints I had, not sharp enough for small details like that...

as for the V6 (Nautilus) :

Miss Jean Keesling, the 16 year old daughter of a prominent San Francisco attorney, was the sponsor of the V-6 (SC-2) at its launching at Mare Island Navy Yard on 15 March 1930.

launch : (look at the tube doors)

right.. boy are you guys attentive !

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08168a.htm

I'll make them ok, but now I'm off to the Big Jump in Han-sur-Lesse.

http://www.bigjump.be/fr/ou_hansurlesse.php

Keltos

FADM Gryphon · 07-12-09, 06:01 PM

Question is there a download for the narwhal available?

Sledgehammer427 · 07-12-09, 11:31 PM

not yet Gryphon, The narwhal is in between keltos and I, and once we have the best product available, Onkel Neal will have it up for grabs as a download bonus for donating!
keep checking the thread, you'll know when

FADM Gryphon · 07-13-09, 12:28 AM

Thanks for the quick response. I just installed TMO it make the game so much better.

keltos01 · 07-13-09, 01:52 PM

still working on the hull shape issue, but the latest pictures I found and Hitman's critics are bringing us closer to the real thing everytime I make a change, and those shouldn't affect the texture file coordinates as I am merely changing the shape, not cutting / adding to it.

will work more on it tomorrow.

keltos

keltos01 · 07-14-09, 12:10 PM

from hitman :

from me :

getting there.. someday

keltos

07-09-09, 04:26 PM	#181
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	New guns deck - completely remade keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-09-09, 04:35 PM	#182
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Ah I understand now....yes the deck for the guns follows exactly the same profile as the main deck, only higher. BTW remember that the texture of the upper part of the deck must look the same as the main deck, and in the sides of the gun deck, the texture will need to be able to display the flooding holes. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

07-09-09, 04:38 PM	#183
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	We cross posted Yes it looks much better now, but still some small gaps are visible at certain places. Also, the shape of the hull is continued in the gun platform, i.e. the curvature of the hull as it goes up and meets the gun deck must continue naturally, not suddenly turn vertical in the gun deck. I'll post a picture, wait a minute __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

07-09-09, 04:43 PM	#184
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	This is the side cut, you can see that the gun platform follows the profile and inclination of the main deck. At the central part, it keeps curving inward, and at the wider parts, where the guns are located, it is vertical the same as the sides of the hull which protude. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

07-09-09, 04:54 PM	#185
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	boy are you hard to please ! tired now... nearly midnight here ! as for the holes, the textures can be added : the sides, top etc of the gun deck are all separate pieces in the dds file hence the wooden deck I made here in a couple minutes. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 07-09-09 at 05:10 PM.

07-09-09, 08:17 PM	#186
CDR Resser Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Submerged ahead Posts: 252 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Looking good. Can't wait for the finished product.. __________________ Holy Equestrian Order of Saint John Moses Sometimes, in war, there is an inverse moral. The greater the performance, the harsher the consequence. R.H. O'Kane

07-10-09, 11:22 AM	#187
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-10-09, 02:45 PM	#188
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	bump map added I made the bump map with this tutorial (just bumped it up) and changed this in the upc file : [UserPlayerUnit 1] ID=Narwhal NameDisplayable=Narwhal UnitName= USS Narwhal Type=Narwhal UpgradeClass=3 UnitInterval= 1941-01-01, 1963-07-11 ExternalClassName=SSNarwhal Nationality=American CrewRanks=12 Evolution= Normal Damage= 0 TextureName=data/Submarine/NSS_Narwhal/NSS_Narwhal_T01.tga LightmapTextureName=data/Submarine/NSS_Narwhal/NSS_Narwhal_O01.tga NormalmapTextureName=data/Submarine/NSS_Narwhal/NSS_Narwhal_N01.tga MenuSilhouetteTextureName= Narwhal_Class_01.tga here it goes : @Skwasjer : I wish I knew how to make one for the Conning Tower .... keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-11-09, 12:38 AM	#189
Captain von Keldunk Sonar Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 376 Downloads: 187 Uploads: 21	Steps from gun platform to weather deck You can see steps to deck from gun platform both sides of bow gun, Also rear gun has them too. That is when sailor wanted to go to deck from gun platform he did not jump, but used steps. http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0817214.jpg __________________ SH Last edited by Captain von Keldunk; 07-11-09 at 12:55 AM.

07-12-09, 06:01 PM	#191
FADM Gryphon Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tacoma,Wa Posts: 253 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 1	Question is there a download for the narwhal available? __________________ Home of the Unorthodox Naval Shipyard

07-12-09, 11:31 PM	#192
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,901 Downloads: 280 Uploads: 0	not yet Gryphon, The narwhal is in between keltos and I, and once we have the best product available, Onkel Neal will have it up for grabs as a download bonus for donating! keep checking the thread, you'll know when __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

07-13-09, 12:28 AM	#193
FADM Gryphon Lieutenant Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tacoma,Wa Posts: 253 Downloads: 97 Uploads: 1	Thanks for the quick response. I just installed TMO it make the game so much better. __________________ Home of the Unorthodox Naval Shipyard

07-13-09, 01:52 PM	#194
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	still working on the hull shape issue, but the latest pictures I found and Hitman's critics are bringing us closer to the real thing everytime I make a change, and those shouldn't affect the texture file coordinates as I am merely changing the shape, not cutting / adding to it. will work more on it tomorrow. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-14-09, 12:10 PM	#195
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	improving the hull shape from hitman : from me : getting there.. someday keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"