[REL] FOTRS Ultimate Project

[cdrsubron7]

There are some 250 different missions listed in SH4. They range from patrolling an area to photo recons to lifeguarding. I propose that we eliminate for right now about 35 of these missions to begin with. Most of these have to do with Photo Recons, Spy insertions on the Japanese mainland, China, and Formosa can be eliminated. Photo Recons in SH4 involve entering harbors in Japan and other places. I would suggest that we just eliminate all of those for now. Below is the list of missions I think that should be removed.

• Insertion Commandos Attu 01
• Insertion Commandos East China Sea 01 – Okinawa
• Insertion Commandos East China Sea 02 – Okinawa
• Insertion Commandos Formosa Strait 01 – Formosa
• Insertion Spy East China Sea 01 – China
• Insertion Spy East China Sea 02 – China/Korea
• Insertion Spy Formosa Strait 01 – Formosa
• Insertion Spy Hokkaido 01 – Akkeshi, Hokkaido
• Insertion Spy Hokkaido 02 – Muroran, Hokkaido
• Insertion Spy Honshu 01 - Tsurusaki, Honshu
• Insertion Spy Honshu 02 – Katsuura, Honshu
• Insertion Spy Honshu 03 – Osaka, Honshu
• Insertion Spy Honshu 04 – Yokosuka, Honshu
• Insertion Spy Honshu 05 – Ishinomaki, Honshu
• Insertion Spy Mariana Islands 01 – Guam
• Insertion Spy Mariana Islands 02 – Saipan
• Insertion Spy South China Sea 01 – Singapore
• Insertion Spy South China Sea 02 – Penang
• Photo Attu 01 – Attu
• Photo Bismark Sea 01 – Rabaul
• Photo Formosa Strait 01 – Taipei
• Photo Honshu 01 – Tokyo
• Photo Honshu 02 – Yokohama
• Photo Honshu 03 – Osaka
• Photo Honshu 04 – Hiroshima
• Photo Honshu 05 – Tsurusaki
• Photo Java Sea 01 – Surubaya
• Photo Luzon Straits 01 – Hua-lein
• Photo Palau Islands 01 – Melekeok
• Photo Palau Islands 02 – Koror
• Photo Philippines 01 – Manila
• Photo South China Sea 01 – Singapore
• Photo South China Sea 02 – Penang
• Photo South China Sea 03 – Bandar Seri Beganan
• Photo Yellow Sea 01 – Dalain

The only thing I’m unsure off is whether deleting the above will effect other things ingame related to the missions. Maybe CapnScurvy or Jeff_Groves would know.

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

There are some 250 different missions listed in SH4 ...
...
... The only thing I’m unsure off is whether deleting the above will effect other things ingame related to the missions. Maybe CapnScurvy or Jeff_Groves would know.

I remember reading somewhere, can't remember where, about how the Campaign stuff worked... Can't find it though. I do remember that you don't want to just delete the missions, but I don't recall if it leads to CTDs or what happens...

In the meantime, I'm suspecting that what you saw by the East China Sea may have been something different than an ASW Hunter/Killer group cdrsubron7. Unfortunately, I can't find the other threads that document what others have encountered, though I do remember seeing them... Were the destroyers in columns of two, or just single file? Did it appear that they might have been groups of 7-9 destroyers? No nearby merchants? Any sign of a cruiser or two, light or heavy?

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

I remember reading somewhere, can't remember where, about how the Campaign stuff worked... Can't find it though. I do remember that you don't want to just delete the missions, but I don't recall if it leads to CTDs or what happens...

In the meantime, I'm suspecting that what you saw by the East China Sea may have been something different than an ASW Hunter/Killer group cdrsubron7. Unfortunately, I can't find the other threads that document what others have encountered, though I do remember seeing them... Were the destroyers in columns of two, or just single file? Did it appear that they might have been groups of 7-9 destroyers? No nearby merchants? Any sign of a cruiser or two, light or heavy?

Couldn't tell how many columns there were because all the DDs were scattered. There were what looked like columns at one time, but not any longer. No cruisers were visible. Just all Akizuki destroyers, and plenty of them.

[cdrsubron7]

Came across this while doing a quick search on campaign files. Don't have time to give it a thorough look now will do so latter.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=113918

[propbeanie]

Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

Couldn't tell how many columns there were because all the DDs were scattered. There were what looked like columns at one time, but not any longer. No cruisers were visible. Just all Akizuki destroyers, and plenty of them.

Sort of like the heavens opened and dumped them all out? It looked like maybe some were parallel, like maybe a group of 7 or 8 in the foreground, but I could see all sorts of stack sign on the horizon, and those are easier to see than the ones midfield... I wish I could find some of those older posts. My Google "skills" (lack thereof) get me all sorts of very old hits for "We preview the coming release of Silent Hunter: Wolves of the Pacific"... say whuh? - if at first you don't succeed, try try again... hmmmm I'm way beyond "try try", into the realm of double digits...

That little tool looks interesting, but it doesn't look like it gets into the actual campaign layer, but rather the unit layer. Still worth checking out though... Oooh, he uses Python in it for scripting... Now if I can just remember my JuCo days...

[Rockin Robbins]

Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

There are some 250 different missions listed in SH4. They range from patrolling an area to photo recons to lifeguarding. I propose that we eliminate for right now about 35 of these missions to begin with. Most of these have to do with Photo Recons, Spy insertions the Japanese mainland, China, and Formosa can be eliminated. Photo Recons in SH4 involve entering harbors in Japan and other places. I would suggest that we just eliminate all of those for now. Below is the list of missions I think that should be removed.

• Insertion Commandos Attu 01
• Insertion Commandos East China Sea 01 – Okinawa
• Insertion Commandos East China Sea 02 – Okinawa
• Insertion Commandos Formosa Strait 01 – Formosa
• Insertion Spy East China Sea 01 – China
• Insertion Spy East China Sea 02 – China/Korea
• Insertion Spy Formosa Strait 01 – Formosa
• Insertion Spy Hokkaido 01 – Akkeshi, Hokkaido
• Insertion Spy Hokkaido 02 – Muroran, Hokkaido
• Insertion Spy Honshu 01 - Tsurusaki, Honshu
• Insertion Spy Honshu 02 – Katsuura, Honshu
• Insertion Spy Honshu 03 – Osaka, Honshu
• Insertion Spy Honshu 04 – Yokosuka, Honshu
• Insertion Spy Honshu 05 – Ishinomaki, Honshu
• Insertion Spy Mariana Islands 01 – Guam
• Insertion Spy Mariana Islands 02 – Saipan
• Insertion Spy South China Sea 01 – Singapore
• Insertion Spy South China Sea 02 – Penang
• Photo Attu 01 – Attu
• Photo Bismark Sea 01 – Rabaul
• Photo Formosa Strait 01 – Taipei
• Photo Honshu 01 – Tokyo
• Photo Honshu 02 – Yokohama
• Photo Honshu 03 – Osaka
• Photo Honshu 04 – Hiroshima
• Photo Honshu 05 – Tsurusaki
• Photo Java Sea 01 – Surubaya
• Photo Luzon Straits 01 – Hua-lein
• Photo Palau Islands 01 – Melekeok
• Photo Palau Islands 02 – Koror
• Photo Philippines 01 – Manila
• Photo South China Sea 01 – Singapore
• Photo South China Sea 02 – Penang
• Photo South China Sea 03 – Bandar Seri Beganan
• Photo Yellow Sea 01 – Dalain

The only thing I’m unsure off is whether deleting the above will effect other things ingame related to the missions. Maybe CapnScurvy or Jeff_Groves would know.

They should not affect other traffic. Lots of mods eliminated the hokey missions without anyone dying. Well, VIRTUALLY no one dying. Would you belive VERY FEW died?

[propbeanie]

I do know that I've gotten

Photo Honshu 04 – Hiroshima

for a first mission everytime I've started a new campaign from Pearl Dec 8, 1941 and used "Normal"... very frustrating, and I've died from trying it all but once, when the Hunter / Killers got me enroute...

[propbeanie]

I can find nothing with my meager skills cdrsubron7, but what I'm thinking of doing is creating a mission right in the middle of the area, and just sitting there on the surface with radar while the clock ticks by. 'Course, I don't know what good that'll do... Get me sunk again, maybe? Probably. One little tidbit - I'm looking closer at (where ARE my confounded reading glasses?...) is the EastAsiaCampaign.mis file. It has the potential to generate a bunch of Akizuli destroyers, but there's usually a cruiser with them. However, the first Akizuli is the "leader", and I'm still looking through the file, getting confused...

Do you remember about where you were, and the date of the DD "display-of-force"? You said back a few pages it was October 1943, East China Sea, West of Okinawa. Were you like just about in the middle between Korea, China, Formosa and Japan?

We might take Jeff-Groves up on

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I could probably bug Dan to see if he could give us info on that Max Units thing of 100 in the mis files.

and have him ask Dan what he knows about this, or get some insight into the MIS file parameters...

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

I can find nothing with my meager skills cdrsubron7, but what I'm thinking of doing is creating a mission right in the middle of the area, and just sitting there on the surface with radar while the clock ticks by. 'Course, I don't know what good that'll do... Get me sunk again, maybe? Probably. One little tidbit - I'm looking closer at (where ARE my confounded reading glasses?...) is the EastAsiaCampaign.mis file. It has the potential to generate a bunch of Akizuli destroyers, but there's usually a cruiser with them. However, the first Akizuli is the "leader", and I'm still looking through the file, getting confused...

Do you remember about where you were, and the date of the DD "display-of-force"? You said back a few pages it was October 1943, East China Sea, West of Okinawa. Were you like just about in the middle between Korea, China, Formosa and Japan?

We might take Jeff-Groves up on

and have him ask Dan what he knows about this, or get some insight into the MIS file parameters...

Not to far north of the Abridge lettering on the Nav map.

[s7rikeback]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Think I'm teaching s7rikeback a few tricks and things to watch out for.


One of the greatest thinks I like doing is to help and teach others what I know.

Some of the greats helped and taught me so I want to carry on that tradition.
to my past Teachers at Subsim.

Jeff-Groves



It's working!!!, it's working!!!!

Let the clone wars begin in earnest.

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

I thought I'd try out CapnScurvy's binoculars, so I went up top, and did not hear the watch say "ship spotted!". So there I are, looking through the glass, and I look to the left, look to the right - "oh my gosh!"



Binocular with the Bismark, about 9900 out... crosshair to red when on it, but it takes a few tries to catch it red with all the up and downing you get when up top. No mark on the bearing dial like that though either, CapnScurvy.

The bearing compass needs to be higher. The Vertical line I was talking about is this one:



I put it there to better center the compass, but the fact that the compass isn't in that area, or in single graphic display (it's showing double) is wrong. My hope is to have the compass "stay" in the marked area for all resolutions, other than 1024x768, which it does show correctly.

Today I've spent all of my time seeing to it that the compass stays put for other resolutions. I think its fixed now. Here's a 1600x1200 8:5 aspect ratio screen shot:



The compass stays put for the various resolutions that my work computer can display (1024x768; 1280x1024; 1792x1344 and others). I also enlarged the compass for easier viewing. This same compass is used for the Deck Gun and AA views, so I've enlarged tham as well. I'll put another mod to be used with the beta up on the Google site later with the fix....called "FOTRS Air_Ship_Sounds_2.1". I'll remove the existing 2.0 mod.

One thing I've also noticed is the Shortwave Radio with the Strategic Map, and the Phonograph with the Conversion Chart doesn't show on screen at the 1792x1344 resolution?? I'm suspecting the image is pooched for the larger resolutions too....meaning their menu_1024_768.ini file is messed up too. You can either find the Shortwave Radio in the Command Room as a clickable 3D object, or in the Radio Room. The Phonograph is always in the Radio Room.....OR, either can be accessed with a Command Button along the bottom of the screen. I'll try to figure out if I can get them to show for the larger resolutions before putting out this binocular compass fix.

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by s7rikeback

Jeff-Groves



It's working!!!, it's working!!!!

Let the clone wars begin in earnest.

Does this mean your finished with the Japanese Maru Mod, my friend?

[s7rikeback]

Originally Posted by cdrsubron7

Does this mean your finished with the Japanese Maru Mod, my friend?

Very nearly.... Jeff has shown me a way to clone ships using less resources within the game..

I'm 99% sure the maru mod will be ready by this time Friday. A lot slimmer than in my test version.

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

They should not affect other traffic. Lots of mods eliminated the hokey missions without anyone dying. Well, VIRTUALLY no one dying. Would you belive VERY FEW died?

I will try deleting these items tonight and start a new career and see what happens and report back with any results I find.

[cdrsubron7]

Originally Posted by s7rikeback

Very nearly.... Jeff has shown me a way to clone ships using less resources within the game..

I'm 99% sure the maru mod will be ready by this time Friday. A lot slimmer than in my test version.

Fantastic, look forward to trying it out when it's done.