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Old 09-19-22, 10:31 AM   #151
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A nice clear explanation. Thanks for positing it
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Old 09-19-22, 11:46 PM   #152
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I agree too !

I hope no more future contracts between australia and France
So do I.
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Old 09-20-22, 04:35 AM   #153
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Old 09-20-22, 11:13 AM   #154
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HO ! clever persons here......
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Old 09-21-22, 05:42 AM   #155
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Call it a weakness!!
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Old 09-21-22, 05:43 AM   #156
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Call it a weakness!!
Or even wisdom
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Australia will buy 5 Virginia boats form the US in the 2030s. That is an interims solution, they want to rebuild a new class for the time after those buyings, basing on the British Astute class and American submarine technology.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...es-2023-03-08/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-counter-china

https://www.wsj.com/articles/austral...nsion-1bd94418

The long haul solution - if they are able to financially maintain it through all those years.
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I'm hearing rumblings that it will be several Astute class boats.

This makes more sense to me. No worries about the steering wheel being on the wrong side.

Actually, the Astute class would be better due to the amount of littoral waters near Oz plus the UK no longer needs the blueprints and already worked out all of the bugs. Cross training would be a little easier as well.

The Virginia class is good but the hulls are also longer which complicates a lot of things.
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Old 03-09-23, 02:22 PM   #160
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Who are you going to trust, The Wall Street Journal or ....me?

The WSJ reported that something will initially be built in the US, they didn't say it would be a Virginia class boat.

I think the reporters are jumping the gun a bit. The reactor and engine room stuff are rumored to be US-designed. Building the initial boats at E-B or in Norfolk doesn't stack up. The Navy wants more Va. class boats ASAP. Building the AUKUS boats would mean doubling the size and payroll of the US shipyards unless the US Navy is happy chilling out for several years (BTW, don't forget the new Columbia class SSBN). See where something has to give?



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I linked three articles from Reuters, WSJ, and Bloomberg. All three articles say what they say, and they do not say anything different.

I cannot argue with any of them, I am not in a position to do so. I just link these three articles, they are all from yesterday.

I found it in a German story, that also provided the three links in its summary of them all three. The summary is: first five "quick" boats of American design to get a first solution to close the most urgent holes, and then a longer lasting development most likely including tech from the US and from the Astutes.
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This makes more sense to me. No worries about the steering wheel being on the wrong side.
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Hmm I thought the steering wheel on a sub was positioned somehow in the middle of the width of the sub.

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The side of the steering wheel does not concern me since the captain commands it with voice controls anyway ("Make it so"), but in Down Under I think up must mean down, and down means up?


I would control the construction of the dive planes on anything build in Australia two and three times before boarding. Else I may find I brought a swimsuite while indeed the sub goes flying.
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