IL2 1946 Boring

[STEED]

This is a great series but how much longer are they going to drag out WW2? Come on IL2 we want new action in Korea. I suspect some of you guys will rush out and buy it, well hope you enjoy it.

[NeonSamurai]

As long as there is money to be made of course. Personaly im starting to think ww2 is getting a bit over done (especialy with strat/fps games), and by a bit, i realy meen way.

[Saukko]

Heh, I bought it last week (my first flight sim in, um, four years. I have to learn to fly all over again). Yeah, WWII is overdone, but SH3 is the only WWII game I have been playing in recent years. So I like it, a lot.

[CCIP]

I think what's getting overdone about WWII is the same concepts within strategies and shooters. There is a LOT in WWII that hasn't been done, in all types of genres. Just that most companies aren't willing to take the risk.

As for IL-2 - well it is an add-on, you can't judge it as a new game. Obviously it's meant to be merged into the great WWII mastodont that is IL2FB of now over 250 flyable planes. And I will be bying it - mostly so I can have a full IL2FB package for multiplayer, which is great as always.

I've spent in excess of $200 on buying up the IL-2 series (all of which I have in both English and Russian editions) and I'm not sorry. It has its shortages, but it is the most expansive combat simulator to date with great multiplayer. The addons aren't gonna change the core of the game, but they're nice to have.

As for Korea, I hope you heard that a Korea sim is already in development on Maddox's next engine, Storm of War.

[Pants]

I've seen the vids for IL2 1946..did'nt like what i saw so i'm waiting for Storm of war

[HunterICX]

well, some say that the WW2 is over, well it isnt.
its just the difference in people's taste.

you have people that like genre's like , RTS, Simulators, Action, FPS, RPG&MMORPG

and you have people that like genre's like, WW2, Modern combat, Sci-Fi

I,m all about WW2, as long as it isnt made up crap but historical correct as it can gets I'll sure get it.
from 1995 I have been playing WW2 games on the computer
and it all started with Panzer General (Great game btw in those times)

my first flight sime was CFS , I was totally going nuts when I played that game spend many hours flying planes.

when I got my first pentium 4 I got IL2: Sturmovik and played it allot but because of the lack of power in my system It was choppy to play. and when I got a newer computer the one I,m one now..I discoverd it had no Joystick port (you know the big plug) and this christmass I,m going to get a brand new Logitech Force 3D Pro and I'll bet ya I,m back in the air again

[STEED]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

I,m all about WW2, as long as it isnt made up crap

Well take a look at the start of this trailer. Select the second link Voir (Streaming) [14 Mo] from here -

http://ubi.com/FR/Downloads/Info.aspx?dlId=2009

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by STEED

Well take a look at the start of this trailer. Select the second link Voir (Streaming) [14 Mo] from here -

http://ubi.com/FR/Downloads/Info.aspx?dlId=2009

I probally saw that one on another website , cant see it right now because I,m at work. but I have seen a couple of 1946 trailer and I must say it doesnt attract me ...mainly because I cant identify some of the planes in it as been really used in WW2. I probally wont be buying that game because its not attracting me, there is a game coming out with the title ''Battle of Brittian'' a different game but its made from the Devs of IL2 and I deffintly going to take a look at it as soon as the trailers come out.

HunterICX

[STEED]

Apart from the 1946 rubbish I was put off by these fake planes and before anyone jumps up and down yelling at me what about AR-234 and the ME-262. Granted not all of them are fake but never the less this IL2 1946 add on is taking the series in to the world of fantasy, come on let's see Korea.

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by STEED

Apart from the 1946 rubbish I was put off by these fake planes and before anyone jumps up and down yelling at me what about AR-234 and the ME-262. Granted not all of them are fake but never the less this IL2 1946 add on is taking the series in to the world of fantasy, come on let's see Korea.

I agree on that, some series goes a bit too far. at the sudden they seem to give a candy for the small kiddies to (12 - 16 yrs old) by giving them something that isnt correct but still ''Coool!!!!'' lots of blasting action, supersonic planes that never excisted...I know what you mean Steed. in game I like to keep it Real.

sometimes some devs need to know where to stop and when. and change the wind.

[joea]

Originally Posted by STEED

Apart from the 1946 rubbish I was put off by these fake planes and before anyone jumps up and down yelling at me what about AR-234 and the ME-262. Granted not all of them are fake but never the less this IL2 1946 add on is taking the series in to the world of fantasy, come on let's see Korea.

BS BS BS Steed, I won't mention ANY of the jets and 46 is just the last bit the DVD also includes:

Pe-2: The Pe-2 light bomber similar to the Mosquito a superb little plane and some great static campaigns as bonus.

NOT FANTASY

Storm over Manchuria:

New planes:
А-20С, 1941 (with the glass nose)
Il-10, 1945 (the ultimate Sturmovik)
Ki-27 Ko, 1938
Ki-27 Otsu, 1938 -great old fixed gear fighters
Ki-43-II, 1942
Ki-43-II Kai, 1943
J2M5, 1944 Raiden
N1K2-Ja, 1944 Shinden -Kai super fighters


AI planes: A5M4, 1938
B6N2, 1943
Ki-21-I, 1937
Ki-21-II, 1940

NOT FANTASY

Maps: Burma, Manchuria, Khalkin-Gol (Nomonhan) and my favorite Kiev

Screenshots:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3/m/8841046415

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...415#6931007415

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3/m/4351045315

Kiev has all the monuments (though some were destroyed before or during the war, which mission makers can do of course)

Plus hundreds of new skins and custom ground objects like ahem, bicycles, new tanks, car columns, TRENCHES and bunkers.

NOT FANTASY EITHER

So if you guys don't like the made up stuff fine, don't say it is not realistic, I certainly don't think it is boring, even the 46 part brings in some of those ground objects or the Kiev map which can make GREAT 1941 scenarios.

Again, 46 IS JUST THE LAST ADDON, EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE DVD, INCLUDING PARTS OF THE 46 BIT ARE HISTORICAL.

[STEED]

Originally Posted by joea

So if you guys don't like the made up stuff fine, don't say it is not realistic

How can the made up stuff be realistic when it's not real. This series is long over due to move on and I wish it would, yes it is a great series but the 46 add on dose not appeal to me at all. As I said if anyone buys it and enjoys it, well good for you.

[CCIP]

Um, he just listed a whole bunch of stuff from that DVD that is NOT made up

Mind you, 1946 is just one of the 3 add-ons that are being released in a package - and even it has a whole bunch of historically-useful things. I know quite a few people mentioned that they plan to buy it not for the 'fantasy planes', but new objects and maps.

I think of it as a 'toybox' of sorts. You're free to avoid the stuff you don't like, but don't say it's entirely useless!

Besides - you know as well as we do that it's the last (official) breath of the IL-2 series - I don't think one departure into the 'fantasy' territory is completely bad. From now on it's Storm of War, starting with BoB!

But let's face it, of course they wouldn't be 'milking' IL-2 this much if they weren't trying to pick up cash to finance their next project (Storm of War). The IL-2 series could have easily stopped at Forgotten Battles - I wouldn't regard any subsequent developments (including Pacific Fighters) as either complete or entirely neccesary. Yea, they were cash cows. But fun cash cows that I didn't mind playing around with. If you don't, your loss. Soon as I find this baby, I'm off to play at my 4.07 servers :p

[joea]

Originally Posted by STEED

How can the made up stuff be realistic when it's not real. This series is long over due to move on and I wish it would, yes it is a great series but the 46 add on dose not appeal to me at all. As I said if anyone buys it and enjoys it, well good for you.

Do you have a reading problem?? I know the 46 addon is not realistic, but the 46 DVD set includes realistic stuff?? Let me repeat the Pe-2 addon and Manchuria are realistic and included!! Did you even click on the blasted links??? I expect this lack of comprehension from other posters like N00b not you mate!!!

Sorry mate I'm really disappointed, I usually like your posts and think you're a decent fellow but please don't select quote me without reading all that I wrote.

Were there Soviet/Japan clashes in Mongolia and Manchuria in 39 and 45 (same month as it were) or not?

Were not Kiev and Burma scenes of combat in WWII or not???

Were the A-20C, Il-10, and the Japanese fighters mentioned real or not???

I mean would you say a pub is bad because they serve one lousy lager and the rest are superb pub brews???

I actually do not care for most of the 46 content myself, but got it for the other addons and the objects maps and the FM fixes (stable USN fighters).

I will admit the silly fantasy Lerch is certainly a test for future FM stuff (Korea ie. helicopters).

[Konovalov]

To be honest I haven't touched IL2 FB series for many months but blame that on SHIII with the Grey Wolves mod.

I am in the same boat as CCIP. I have the whole IL2 series up to the Aces expansion plus some third party add-ons. I would purchase this just to have the whole series on one single DVD not to mention what Joea and CCIP have written here with regards to the content of 1946 convinces me even more so to purchase this. Thanks gentleman.