[WIP] "Omitted American submarines"

[Delgard]

It is nice to read the stories. But many stories just don't get written and they are probably the most interesting. Sure, most patrols, even in '68 or '84, were standard in most ways but it would be nice to feel the emotions for sailing on the dark side.

A friend, who has passed away, was a sailor on a sub that sailed into Tokyo Harbor before the end of WWII. He was never recognized, nor received any benefits. I only knew him for six months before he passed and I found a picture of men on deck for his boat and he pointed to himself. I think he was a member of the Greatest Generation.

Suddenly, I just feel grateful.

[The Bandit]

Originally Posted by Delgard

It is nice to read the stories. But many stories just don't get written and they are probably the most interesting. Sure, most patrols, even in '68 or '84, were standard in most ways but it would be nice to feel the emotions for sailing on the dark side.

A friend, who has passed away, was a sailor on a sub that sailed into Tokyo Harbor before the end of WWII. He was never recognized, nor received any benefits. I only knew him for six months before he passed and I found a picture of men on deck for his boat and he pointed to himself. I think he was a member of the Greatest Generation.

Suddenly, I just feel grateful.

Well, I'm kind of struggling with it (not nearly as good at it / as easy as I thought it would be) but I'm also trying to put something of a video together for youtube to both show off the mod (in all of its soviet-looking goodness) and show how to play as some of these old boats.

Once I got everything together I went in and started the 1968 campaign with a random boat. Obviously I didn't know what I was going to get but, one look down that list and its like the island of misfit toys, you have old tired diesel boats, strange one-offs like the Triton and Tullibee and then you have your borderline outdated stuff like your Skates and the Seawolf.

Anyways, what I ended up getting was USS Tirante, a Guppy IIA (Tench) class. I knew the name sounds familiar but I didn't think anything of it until after the first mission was over. Turns out this was the boat that Ned Beach (as in Run Silent Run Deep) was XO on. George Street was the captain and he won the medal of honor for one of the most daring attacks ever made running in on the surface in shallow water.

Its an amazing thing to consider how many of these old boats served for so long. On the note of your friend, do you follow Jive Turkey on youtube, just today he revealed that he experienced the sudden loss of somebody who became a good friend to him who had served as a Chemical Safety Officer in the Soviet Navy.

Its sad to lose these people because with each passing day the world gets one step closer to forgetting.

[Delgard]

That was his boat. Reminiscing for a moment, he said he was 17ish, this being a bunch of years ago that I ran into him. We connected because of submarines and I have a respect for the history and the challenges faced.

I was just looking for the picture I remember and don't see it. It really didn't have much meaning for me and probably went with a hard drive purging.

I was kind of surprised when he said the Navy never really kept up with him and didn't seem to know him. I just put it down to the times and that the military was releasing several millions of service members at the time. He said he got a physical and a bus ticket to his parents home in Nebraska. But, he was in a wheel chair and I gave him some errand rides and an older computer. I made the picture a part of the screen saver. I had it bypass the login and he just clicked on IE and got a home page with links. He ended up leaving the Navy shortly after the war with only like 2 years of service. He became a teacher and retired as a principal.

I think I spent all of a day looking for info and reading a general summary of the event. He remembered the mission as just being scared. I put it down to his being a farm kid in an alien world.

He was a neighbor to an apartment that I rented. He passed of heart failure and a niece came, collected him, and took him for burial.

Anyway, the immersion part of CW and the opportunity of missions out of the norm are a value for us that didn't live/participate in the times. Nowadays we just fire a missile from many miles away.

Good luck on the mod.

[The Bandit]

Originally Posted by Delgard

That was his boat. Reminiscing for a moment, he said he was 17ish, this being a bunch of years ago that I ran into him. We connected because of submarines and I have a respect for the history and the challenges faced.

I was just looking for the picture I remember and don't see it. It really didn't have much meaning for me and probably went with a hard drive purging.

I was kind of surprised when he said the Navy never really kept up with him and didn't seem to know him. I just put it down to the times and that the military was releasing several millions of service members at the time. He said he got a physical and a bus ticket to his parents home in Nebraska. But, he was in a wheel chair and I gave him some errand rides and an older computer. I made the picture a part of the screen saver. I had it bypass the login and he just clicked on IE and got a home page with links. He ended up leaving the Navy shortly after the war with only like 2 years of service. He became a teacher and retired as a principal.

I think I spent all of a day looking for info and reading a general summary of the event. He remembered the mission as just being scared. I put it down to his being a farm kid in an alien world.

He was a neighbor to an apartment that I rented. He passed of heart failure and a niece came, collected him, and took him for burial.

Anyway, the immersion part of CW and the opportunity of missions out of the norm are a value for us that didn't live/participate in the times. Nowadays we just fire a missile from many miles away.

Good luck on the mod.

Its a small world and always interesting when coincidences like that come up. In the reading I've done I don't recall Tirante ever getting to Tokyo bay (only two war patrols, was leaving on her 3rd when the war ended) but she did make it into Nagasaki a few times, which may as well have been Tokyo for as busy as it was. The Japanese were in a mad dash to get whatever and whoever they could over from China to prepare for the forthcoming American invasion and Nagasaki was the closes port.

Another important first for the Tirante, on one of these patrols she became the first american submarine to fire a homing torpedo when she used a Mk 27 "cutie" against an attacking escort. While it was claimed they heard the screw stop and the ship break up, the kill was never confirmed.

[The Bandit]

OK the mod has been released. So far just the campaigns, no single missions yet but I'll try to get to that soon enough.

Like I said earlier, roll the dice, hit random and tell us all about what boat your given and how you do.

[The Bandit]

Well I just figured something out, its completely possible for me to remove the third / center screw from both the Foxtrot and Tango classes. For the Foxtrot, it just leaves a very innocuous stub but for the Tango the cowling / duct is still there for the screw. I think that will be part of the next update which will be in a day or so.

[Steiger]

Add the Barbel class! It's more or less a diesel electric Skipjack.