"VonDos & Co" shipyard! (big images!)

[VonDos]

Hi!
Those for example are tests for different decks colors:



Wood effect is maybe better, but on metal decks in war time i need more work, too "low res" appareance, i think; what do you think?

Best regards,
Vd

[gap]

Originally Posted by VonDos

At moment unit type is one for all times... how can i change unit type during war?

The only way I know, is by setting each "reincarnation" of the ship as a separate unit, each wit a different UnitType set in its respective sea\xxx\xxx.cfg and roster\british\sea\xxx.cfg files.
Anyway, all of them can point to the same 3DModelFileName (no need to clone the main model three times). Model's paint schemes and outfits can be customized through individual roster cfg files and eqp files, the way you already know, but separately for each ship version.
You can make the three versions not to overlap temporally by setting Appearance/DisappearanceDate(s) appropriately in each roster cfg file.

Originally Posted by VonDos

Flag idea is really interesting, must try it!

Check first if changing UnitType is enough for switching to the white ensign, though I am afraid the merchant/navy ensign usage is rather dictated by the naming of the flag node (cfg#FLG=war flag, large, cfg#FLS=war flag, small, cfg#FLGC=civil flag). If that is the case, you will need to clone the two flags in a library file, placing/customizing them manually the way you would do with a regular equipment. Not too much work though, as the ship would only appear in the British roster.

Talking about the flag more appropriate for the AMC version, I am a bit undecided wether the white or the blue ensign defaced with an anchor should be used. The latter was and it is still adopted by the Royal Fleet Auxiliary, but I think it is only flown on vessels manned by a civilian crew (such as replenishment, ammunition, tender, etc. ships, whose name is denoted by the RFA prefix). On the contrary, the Queen of Bermuda, similar to other AMCs of her time, was requisitioned by the RN and commissioned directly within its ranks, as the HMS prefix was denoting, meaning that she would have sailed under the white ensign rather than the blue one.

Originally Posted by VonDos

BTW, Voilà the island:

Good, but maybe you should make it a bit wider (from beam to beam) and shorter (from prow to stern), and you should also prolong abaft the deck that the island is raising from (hence reducing the length of the deck immediately below it), as can be seen in the previously mentioned scale model:

Originally Posted by VonDos

Hi!
Those for example are tests for different decks colors:


Wood effect is maybe better, but on metal decks in war time i need more work, too "low res" appareance, i think; what do you think?

Yep, I agree, and I also think you should make it a bit darker

There is a very good textures for the decks in The_Frog's models. Maybe you should ask him if you can use the same ?

[gap]

Originally Posted by Kendras

There is a very good textures for the decks in The_Frog's models. Maybe you should ask him if you can use the same ?

In alternative, there is plenty of good and free metal textures on the web

https://www.google.com/search?q=meta...iw=360&bih=559

Originally Posted by gap

In alternative, there is plenty of good and free metal textures on the web

https://www.google.com/search?q=meta...iw=360&bih=559

[VonDos]

[radiator]

The work is not finished yet?
How soon will we be able to download this beautiful ship?

[the_frog]

Hello,

I do not think liners converted to auxiliary cruisers had their would decks removed. Why should they? It's waste of time. All pictures taken aboard of RN auxiliary cruisers and troop transports I am aware of show clearly the wood decks.
The RN was not as strict with painting over wood decks as the USN, however, when faded the decks were often painted over with the same colour used for steel decks (usually darker shades such as 507A, MS1, MS2, G5, G10, B15, depending of the period).
So, the painted wood decks as shown on one of the picture posted on 25-11 is about right. You might even consider to darken it a bit more.

Cheers

[VonDos]

Originally Posted by radiator

The work is not finished yet?
How soon will we be able to download this beautiful ship?

Hi mate!
No, at moment isn't finished at all.. for medical problems (a surgery operation to my eyes, very well done, 3 weeks ago) i can't stay too time at pc at moment.. but i'll recover myself day by day

Originally Posted by the_frog

Hello,

I do not think liners converted to auxiliary cruisers had their would decks removed. Why should they? It's waste of time. All pictures taken aboard of RN auxiliary cruisers and troop transports I am aware of show clearly the wood decks.
The RN was not as strict with painting over wood decks as the USN, however, when faded the decks were often painted over with the same colour used for steel decks (usually darker shades such as 507A, MS1, MS2, G5, G10, B15, depending of the period).
So, the painted wood decks as shown on one of the picture posted on 25-11 is about right. You might even consider to darken it a bit more.

Cheers

As soon as possible (read up) i'll try a "darkened wood version"... this will be really easy =)

Best regards,
Vd

[Anvar1061]

I wish a speedy recovery!

[radiator]

I join to the Anvar1061! Get well!

[VonDos]

Originally Posted by radiator

I join to the Anvar1061! Get well!

Originally Posted by Anvar1061

I wish a speedy recovery!

Thanks a lot

I know, flag is wrong, btw voilà a small update with dark wooden decks and a different stern structures and island configuration:

[gap]

Originally Posted by VonDos

for medical problems (a surgery operation to my eyes, very well done, 3 weeks ago) i can't stay too time at pc at moment.. but i'll recover myself day by day

I am sorry to hear that, mate. I wish you a quick and full recovery!

Originally Posted by the_frog

Hello,

I do not think liners converted to auxiliary cruisers had their would decks removed. Why should they? It's waste of time. All pictures taken aboard of RN auxiliary cruisers and troop transports I am aware of show clearly the wood decks.
The RN was not as strict with painting over wood decks as the USN, however, when faded the decks were often painted over with the same colour used for steel decks (usually darker shades such as 507A, MS1, MS2, G5, G10, B15, depending of the period).
So, the painted wood decks as shown on one of the picture posted on 25-11 is about right. You might even consider to darken it a bit more.

Cheers

Originally Posted by VonDos

I know, flag is wrong, btw voilà a small update with dark wooden decks and a different stern structures and island configuration:

The colors mentioned by the_frog, in case you want to mimic a gray-painted wooden deck:


507A RN Dark Grey


MS1 RN Blue-Black


MS2 RN Dark Grey


G5 RN Extra Dark Grey


G10 RN Dark Grey


B15 RN Dark Grey-Blue

The way I would do it (in Photoshop), is to totally desaturate the original wooden deck texture, apply an auto curves adjustement to it so to emphasize middle grays in the output image, and overlay the result (with either soft or hard light blending mode selected, depending on the contrast of the overlay) on top of a background layer, uniformely filled with one of the colors above

[VonDos]

@Gap thanks a lot mate!

Talking about mimic a gray-painted wooden deck, what about this?




Best regards,
Vd

[gap]

Originally Posted by VonDos

@Gap thanks a lot mate!

Talking about mimic a gray-painted wooden deck, what about this?

Yes and no, in theory wood veins and the edges between adjoining planks should be barely visible under the paint coating. As you got it now, it looks like the guys at the RN shipyard had run out of paint and had to thin it down with their precious grog ration

In my opinion the base texture you are using looks a bit too disomogeneous, and too low-res. A quick search on the web gave me many alternatives that are probably better suited

P.S: the new stern island looks