Community-Developed Submarine Simulation: Wishlist

Karl Heinrich · 02-22-13, 11:02 AM

I think those are very true comments, and it would be much better to contribute to an existing project rather than doing anything from scratch. This was simply meant to be one step ahead from the "well let's start a kickstarter" comments. Rather than the perfect sim, I thought it would be interesting to see if there was any kind of consensus on the level of realism expected, as that is what the most of the comments leveled at SHO have been about.

Red October1984 · 02-22-13, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl Heinrich

I think those are very true comments, and it would be much better to contribute to an existing project rather than doing anything from scratch.

That's why I say if you are serious you guys should pour all the effort into Imperial U-Flotilla.

scissors · 03-20-13, 03:46 PM

All video games depend on their looks .. And audiences are particular .At a glance i can see . Hardware is the limiting factor ,, which leaves a narrow time frame to develop a game , And still be competitive with what people are expecting Graphics wise ..
Also i was looking and SH sales have never been in the millions of copies ... only the thousands .. Of which i probably tally ten copies between 3 and 5 myself..

Its all in the graphics ,,If you can make the waves crash pretty .. That is all that really matters... isnt it ? I mean if that can be achieved the rest should be cake anyway.. And that is the perfect subsim , Or any kind of ocean sim time circa 100000bc to present to future time ever on ..
At that point the entire crew could be rendered in stunning detail. Right now no ones computer could get close to handling it .. When sh 5 launched the computer that could run it maxed without stutter was a brand new monster of a machine ,, It takes a respectable machine to run sh5 well now.. Water is just intensive to render ..

Anyways ..... thats my wishlist ,, A good open water sim i don't care if its sailboats or whatever but a better ocean .. better beaches .. Better action where water meets shore .. And i guess while im wishing ill wish for the 10 grand to build a server rack that can run it ..

TorpX · 03-20-13, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scissors

Its all in the graphics ,,If you can make the waves crash pretty .. That is all that really matters... isnt it ? ..

You gotta be kidding.

Grind_and_Click · 03-21-13, 06:42 AM

They went the right direction with the online thing at least.

Suppose its the slow pace that's hard to get over.

Maybe it would need to be part of a larger game, like using the Outerra engine.

Sim-combat-world! War Thunder is already trying to do something like this on a lower level.

But lets say to move forward in the sim sense, we develop a sub with more intricate management and perhaps some way to "warp gate" to another place or spawn beacon to speed things up a tiny bit.

I don't know, but "Online" and MMO (like the old and real sense of the term, not the World of Tanks "version") sound good, its just getting to the action.

Julhelm · 03-21-13, 07:31 PM

The thing I've always hated with pretty much every sub sim not designed by Sid Meier is the ridiculous amount of time spent on just getting to the action because the time compression is inadequate for strategic transit.

thefinnishguy · 04-25-13, 05:02 AM

Make the sub and crew interact realistically, make the sub's diesel engines vulnerable to malfunction when running on too high power, make the crew feel toxicated when diving too deep, and don't make a badly injured man just get back to his position and calmly continue rubbing his head and leaming forward to look at the gauges like in SH5.

scissors · 03-31-14, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TorpX

You gotta be kidding.

I am not kidding, I might be oversimplifying , and a bit dramatic , But a year later reading back over it i still feel the same way .
. There are more graphics mods on subsim than any other kind of mod , as people search for that better wave , better scope, floor ,sky. whatever .
Its a shame that Ukuel is MIA from what i can gather and Lets hope everything is ok with him, His vision for more shipping , and more various boats on teh water , Is correct .
My first time zooming in on one of his sailboats anchored outside Kiel led to some loud eruptions of laughter and..
well alright i digress..

If you look at what the modders have done , It is to create the ultimate SH experience Inside of the box they have to work in .

People have tried to put in 47 crew members ,And they have made them do some pretty cool stuff , They need to do everything but poop , but the head does need a working door .

People have tried to make radio mods that play period radio , as per date .
These are the things it will need , stock , To sell . because most people wont mod , and its gotta sell .. I hope it sells like GTA5 ..

TheDarkWraith · 03-31-14, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by scissors

If you look at what the modders have done , It is to create the ultimate SH experience Inside of the box they have to work in .

That's true for about 99.9% of them. I don't have restrictions, I can make whatever my imagination and skill wants

scissors · 04-01-14, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

That's true for about 99.9% of them. I don't have restrictions, I can make whatever my imagination and skill wants

Superheroes and Minor Deities aside i meant lol ..

But just straight up, honestly from an armchair perspective .. Ive always wondered why Ubi doesnt put you on the payroll . Maybe it would save them some money on things like SHOL .

02-22-13, 11:02 AM	#1
Karl Heinrich Soundman Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 146 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 2	I think those are very true comments, and it would be much better to contribute to an existing project rather than doing anything from scratch. This was simply meant to be one step ahead from the "well let's start a kickstarter" comments. Rather than the perfect sim, I thought it would be interesting to see if there was any kind of consensus on the level of realism expected, as that is what the most of the comments leveled at SHO have been about. __________________ “Die Südfrüchte runter vom Kartentisch. Auf Bananen kann ich nicht navigieren.”

03-20-13, 03:46 PM	#3
scissors A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: AlaBama Posts: 71 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Graphics .. All video games depend on their looks .. And audiences are particular .At a glance i can see . Hardware is the limiting factor ,, which leaves a narrow time frame to develop a game , And still be competitive with what people are expecting Graphics wise .. Also i was looking and SH sales have never been in the millions of copies ... only the thousands .. Of which i probably tally ten copies between 3 and 5 myself.. Its all in the graphics ,,If you can make the waves crash pretty .. That is all that really matters... isnt it ? I mean if that can be achieved the rest should be cake anyway.. And that is the perfect subsim , Or any kind of ocean sim time circa 100000bc to present to future time ever on .. At that point the entire crew could be rendered in stunning detail. Right now no ones computer could get close to handling it .. When sh 5 launched the computer that could run it maxed without stutter was a brand new monster of a machine ,, It takes a respectable machine to run sh5 well now.. Water is just intensive to render .. Anyways ..... thats my wishlist ,, A good open water sim i don't care if its sailboats or whatever but a better ocean .. better beaches .. Better action where water meets shore .. And i guess while im wishing ill wish for the 10 grand to build a server rack that can run it ..

03-21-13, 06:42 AM	#5
Grind_and_Click Watch Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 20 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	They went the right direction with the online thing at least. Suppose its the slow pace that's hard to get over. Maybe it would need to be part of a larger game, like using the Outerra engine. Sim-combat-world! War Thunder is already trying to do something like this on a lower level. But lets say to move forward in the sim sense, we develop a sub with more intricate management and perhaps some way to "warp gate" to another place or spawn beacon to speed things up a tiny bit. I don't know, but "Online" and MMO (like the old and real sense of the term, not the World of Tanks "version") sound good, its just getting to the action.

03-21-13, 07:31 PM	#6
Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 690 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	The thing I've always hated with pretty much every sub sim not designed by Sid Meier is the ridiculous amount of time spent on just getting to the action because the time compression is inadequate for strategic transit.

04-25-13, 05:02 AM	#7
thefinnishguy Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Espoo, Finland Posts: 5 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Make the sub and crew interact realistically, make the sub's diesel engines vulnerable to malfunction when running on too high power, make the crew feel toxicated when diving too deep, and don't make a badly injured man just get back to his position and calmly continue rubbing his head and leaming forward to look at the gauges like in SH5.