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11-23-18, 10:31 AM | #5986 |
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Same here. I don't think he is an idiot, though. He's a lot smarter than I gave him credit for, he did manage to outmaneuver the experienced Republican field and beat Madam Hillary at her own game. He is uncouth, crass, and quite a huckster.
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11-23-18, 05:53 PM | #5987 | |
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I believe that if the Democrats had put almost anyone other than Hillary up, they would have won. The Republicans could have put almost anyone other than Trump and still beaten Hillary. Hillary's legacy is being probably the only candidate that could lose against a buffoon like Trump Putting Hillary up will go down as a political mistake equal to the GOP putting up Palin. There are times when one as to ask "what were they thinking?"
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11-23-18, 06:00 PM | #5988 |
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11-23-18, 06:32 PM | #5989 |
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Not really. The other hucksters at least know how to use decorum when it's required of the office.
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11-23-18, 10:06 PM | #5990 |
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You gotta admit though his lack of political decorum didn't get in the way of him becoming president. I'd even go so far as to say it helped him get elected.
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11-23-18, 10:31 PM | #5991 |
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I don't disagree with that. I'm just disappointed that he just doesn't get it, or if he does, he doesn't care. Sure, speak plainly, but why crudely? I have never had any respect for the man, and I see any reason to change my opinion while he's had a wonderful opportunity to be great, and has/will blown it by being a class A-1 jerk.
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11-24-18, 07:07 AM | #5992 | |
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11-24-18, 07:31 AM | #5993 |
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For some people.
Two possible predictions for the future. #1. A 'Trump' from the left. The play book has been written and published. Politicians will resort to any means to get elected. It's in their genes. #2. If a recurrence of conditions like 2016 happen again... another Trump from the right. I will be available to disavow any prediction should they turn out to be wrong.
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11-24-18, 07:43 AM | #5994 |
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That's exactly right. At least the other politicians respected the office enough to act properly. I give Obama that. And Bush. I have nothing against a President who steps outside the usual lanes when the occasion warrants it, but Trump lives outside the lane. Some of his blathering is more appropriate for budget TV ads
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...and, as far as the total vote tallies go, let's be honest: if the 2018 General Election vote totals were reversed and the GOP wound up with the majority of the vote, the GOP would be loudly hailing it as an affirmation of Trump , and as a "mandate from America' for GOP policies and the DEM commentators would be posting their own versions of the two links u crank posted. So lets not just go by the "vox populi", let's go by the fact 28 GOP incumbent House members lost their seats to DEM candidates and no DEM incumbents lost their seats; or how about the GOP losing seven Governor's office nation wide; or how about it appears the GOP will pretty much have stagnated when it comes to Senate gains? Or maybe how in states and areas where Trump won in 2016 by double digits, GOP candidates pretty much either squeaked by or lost? Somehow, I haven't head many, if any, reports of significant gains by the GOP in the 2018 General Election... Quote:
In case any of you might be looking for an Xmas 'stocking stuffer' for the Trump-lover you might know (or yourself), this little item has been out for about a year now: <O>
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11-24-18, 04:46 PM | #5996 |
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11-24-18, 07:58 PM | #5998 | |
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Hmm, when the Primary for US Senate was tabulated, the highest ranking GOP candidate was James P. Bradley in 3rd place with 8.3% of the total vote; I guess if you don't run a candidate the voters are actually willing to vote for, that's what happens... Feinstein (DEM) got 44.2% of the total vote in the open, non partisan primary. There were 35 candidates, from all parties, including independents, who ran for the office. The voters, of all parties got to choose and they did. As in much of the races run in CA, the GOP just ran candidates either out of step with the majority of the voters or just unknown quantities to the voters... There were over 6,168,767 ballots cast in the CA US Senate race, all going to the two DEM candidates; since there are 8,438,268 DEM and 4,769,299 GOP registered voters in CA (net total 13,207,567), the chances of any of the GOP Primary candidates, had they got on the ballot, actually making a significant dent on the final vote tally, as regards the DEM haul, was unlikely; the Governor's race, which did have both a DEM and GOP candidate, resulted in the DEM winning 60% to 40%, with 4,158,682 votes of those cast going to the DEM candidate. There were a total of 7,141,987 votes cast in the General Election, roughly about 970,000 votes less than the total ballots statewide. I'm willing to bet not every single GOP voter abstained from voting for one of the DEM candidates, and there were probably a lot of IND and Third Party voters who cast vote in the Senate race, so technically, the vote total is not just DEM voters. Are you seriously suggesting only DEM voters voted in the race and no other party or IND voters took part? Seems unlikely... ...and it has been stated before by posters in this forum, when defending the "quality" of Trump's win in 2016, that 'a win is a win', no matter how ugly or convoluted, so just suck it up and deal with the fact that, even without CA's vote included, the GOP and Trump got their asses handed to them, losing some 40 House seats, making no gains in the Senate, losing seven governorships, and watching a slew of states and counties where Trump won by double digits either losing the GOP hold or having the GOP candidates barely squeaking by; and, the DEMs got more votes cast for their candidates, nationwide, than the GOP. Trump has no power over and his influence with the majority of voting Americans has been, is, and continues to be minimal to none and, once the hearing and indictments start, he will be less a party leader than a very heavy albatross to the GOP. If you want to see the possible future of the GOP, look up the results in Orange County, CA, a place once called Regan country: in 2016, the very heavily GOP county, for the first time in 80 years, did not elect a GOP candidate for President, and, in 2018's General election, turned every single House seat over the DEM column, the first time in 80 years not a single House district in the County will be represented by a GOP rep.; add to this the fact Orange County is also the county that contributes the most funds of any county in the US to GOP coffers, and the future does not bode well for the GOP... <O>
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11-24-18, 08:48 PM | #5999 |
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I'll not dispute any of those facts except... Hmm.. GOP are up two Senate seats overall and will likely make it three on Tuesday. If Cindy Hyde-Smith can keep her foot out of her mouth she should win in the special election in deep red Mississippi. Final result GOP +3.
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11-24-18, 09:43 PM | #6000 |
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The behaviour Trump shows in all regards, is the only one he knows, which shows how limited he is. He is successful in being popular, because it is right this bulling behaviour for which the crowd likes him.
He is not master of his ways, nor of himself. He is haunted by the way he behaves, he is ridden by it, pushed, chased. Its the only thing that keeps him in office. The foundation of his populism. All this makes three things very unlikely: First, that he will ever show any other behaviour. Second, that he can keep himself in power once this behaviour is no longer being asked for, or tolerated. Because he does not know any other. Third, that any of the career parasites who rose just becasue of him, will speak out against his rudeness and bulliness and narration of his fake reality. He will get reelected, most likely. And leader and people deserve each other like rarely before. Thus, zero compassion from me.
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