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01-31-09, 12:33 AM | #46 | ||
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I think this pic sums the respect you just talked about quite well. Title for the pic says: This dead German soldier was one of the "last stand" defenders of German-held Cherbourg. Captain Earl Topley, who led one of the first outfits into the fallen city, blamed him for killing three of his boys. France, 06/27/1944 (WARNING, CRUESOME SHOT): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Cherbourg.jpg |
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01-31-09, 04:47 AM | #47 | |
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Allied bombing of German cities claimed between 300,000 and 600,000 civilian lives. the battle of the atlantic claimed aprox 30,200 merchant sailors so knowing that wouldnt it be fair to degrade the graves of the bomber crew shot down to human states and take away any Honorable military resemblece as they didnt deserve them, they just killed civilians for their butcher Harris I've seen graves of a whole family wiped out in one raid, the youngest one was just 3 months old did they asked to be bombed to kingdom come? Harris tought so, he thought killing enough civilians would get the country on its knees...bastard hasnt learned anything from the raids on london...it only fuels the people to hold on even harder. I respect almost all of the soldiers/airmen/sailors on both sides of World War II (apart from the few rotten ones) They followed the orders and did the hard work and gave their lifes in the line of duty. and they deserve to be honored in Military fashion. HunterICX
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Link with Youtube - video.
http://www.xray-mag.com/en/content/n...rman-ww2-uboat Regardless of what one thinks about nazis etc. it would be interesting to have some wrecks raised to the surface. Some of the merchant ships had cargo that would be of some value still, not to mention the historical value of tanks etc. |
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did so in a just way. Bomber Harris fits the bill here for many people, but not for me personally.
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What those orders are and whom they came from are actually irrelevant. |
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you can't pass responsibility up the chain of command.
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Sorry but for me there is no difference between any soldier, who gave his life for his country, at least thinking that he was fighting for a right cause. br Michael |
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01-31-09, 11:19 AM | #54 | ||
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that. They just should not have a celebration of what they did. They should not be honored or glorified, but remembered and mourned as humans who died tragically.
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I personally have zero problems with your principles, even though I tend to disagree, out of humanitarian reasons, however, but a huge problem with the hypocrisis displayed in regards to judging soldiers just because they fought for one side and not the other. |
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I do apply it to all nations, although it is not often black and white, in this case it is
clear enough to anyone. I could certainly dig up countless British military endeavors that conferred no honor to it's participants.
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