Gulf of Oman suspected torpedo attack/escalating hostilities

Onkel Neal · 06-13-19, 12:18 PM

https://www.businessinsider.com/phot...source=taboola

The oil tanker was evacuated on Thursday after catching fire. The company that chartered the ship said it believed it was hit by a torpedo.

Skybird · 06-13-19, 01:42 PM

It seems somebody wants to begin something.

bstanko6 · 06-13-19, 01:46 PM

I would have thought an anti shipping missile.

Iran uses that strait like a highway for their MiGS.

nikimcbee · 06-13-19, 01:58 PM

Ship was hit dead center, no doubt by someone using the red triangle.

Catfish · 06-13-19, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Ship was hit dead center, no doubt by someone using the red triangle.

A 'well-placed' limpet mine would have the same impact.
Also, what do we really know? Some biased news agencies telling us that "norwegian sailors have said that blahblah" ? Really? Have they?
Tonkin incident anyone? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
As usual, this kind of "news" stinks to the high heavens.

mapuc · 06-13-19, 05:51 PM

I have throughout the day read and seen news about this incident in the Gulf of Oman.

Instead of getting a heureka feeling(Can't find a better phrase) I got lots of questions.

Like:

If Iran said it wasn't them despite every evidence showing it was them, could this mean there are part of the Iranian military who acts on their own.

And

Could it be those who are fighting Saudi-Arabia and others in Yemen and they got help from Iran = An Iranian attack by proxy.

As one of the political commentator said on Danish TV.

Nor Iran or USA is interested in an open conflict.

If it's not Iran or some of their allied in the area, then the question is

Who else ?

Markus

Skybird · 06-13-19, 02:05 PM

"It was Iran" is the reaction that comes automatically. But it is not the only scenario possible.

Could be Iran with knowledge of the Iranian government. >50%.

Could be an Iranian camp (the RG for example) who acted without authorization by the Iranian government.>50%

Could be one of Iran's enemies to give Iran bad name and force American forces returning to the Gulf region in strength: Saudi Arabia. >25%

Could be the US to create a shunt casus belli. <25%

Could be Russian-helped to hint out what is at stake if the West goes after Iran by martial means. <20%

Numbers should only illustrate the general trend in probability I see in the scenarios being true.

Dowly · 06-14-19, 12:31 AM

Well, the US has made its mind it was Iran.

Some years back, a certain individual... let's call him individual-1 had this to say:

In order to get elected, @BarackObama will start a war with Iran.

Now that Obama’s poll numbers are in tailspin – watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran. He is desperate.

Don't let Obama play the Iran card in order to start a war in order to get elected--be careful Republicans!

I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face!

Remember what I previously said--Obama will someday attack Iran in order to show how tough he is.

Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly-not skilled!

Buddahaid · 06-14-19, 12:55 AM

So it would appear. At least we/they are putting the blame on Iran for allowing the attacks to happen regardless if they are sanctioned by their government. I really want to know the truth about this and feel I can trust nothing for an information source. I guess that means I've fallen victim to the misinformation campaigns sowing of mistrust. Damn!

Jimbuna · 06-14-19, 07:07 AM

Gulf of Oman tanker attacks: US says video shows Iran removing mine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48633016

Gulf of Oman tanker 'attacks': What we know.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48627014

Mr Quatro · 06-14-19, 09:41 AM

Mines don't fly

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/j...-used-n1017556

Quote:

The Japanese owner of a tanker attacked in the Gulf of Oman claimed Friday that it was struck by a flying projectile, contradicting reports by U.S. officials and the military on the source of the blast.

Quote:

Friday morning, the owner of the 560-foot Courageous, said that sailors saw something flying toward the vessel just before the explosion and that the impact was well above the waterline

.

Mr Quatro · 06-14-19, 09:51 AM

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Skybird · 06-14-19, 10:26 AM

Have the tanker and the small boat on that video been positively IDed by in dependent, non-US sources?

em2nought · 06-14-19, 11:25 AM

This is how John Kerry suggested Iran deal with President Trump no doubt.

It would not surprise me in the least.

Rockstar · 06-14-19, 12:15 PM

https://www.ncr-iran.org/en/news/ira...rthrow-in-2019

maybe a new batch of freedom fighters hell bent on a past due change of Iranian leadership.

06-13-19, 12:18 PM	#1
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06-13-19, 01:46 PM	#3
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06-13-19, 01:58 PM	#4
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,925 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Ship was hit dead center, no doubt by someone using the red triangle. __________________

06-13-19, 02:05 PM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	"It was Iran" is the reaction that comes automatically. But it is not the only scenario possible. Could be Iran with knowledge of the Iranian government. >50%. Could be an Iranian camp (the RG for example) who acted without authorization by the Iranian government.>50% Could be one of Iran's enemies to give Iran bad name and force American forces returning to the Gulf region in strength: Saudi Arabia. >25% Could be the US to create a shunt casus belli. <25% Could be Russian-helped to hint out what is at stake if the West goes after Iran by martial means. <20% Numbers should only illustrate the general trend in probability I see in the scenarios being true. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-13-19, 05:51 PM	#6
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 18,069 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I have throughout the day read and seen news about this incident in the Gulf of Oman. Instead of getting a heureka feeling(Can't find a better phrase) I got lots of questions. Like: If Iran said it wasn't them despite every evidence showing it was them, could this mean there are part of the Iranian military who acts on their own. And Could it be those who are fighting Saudi-Arabia and others in Yemen and they got help from Iran = An Iranian attack by proxy. As one of the political commentator said on Danish TV. Nor Iran or USA is interested in an open conflict. If it's not Iran or some of their allied in the area, then the question is Who else ? Markus

06-14-19, 12:31 AM	#8
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Well, the US has made its mind it was Iran. Some years back, a certain individual... let's call him individual-1 had this to say: In order to get elected, @BarackObama will start a war with Iran. Now that Obama’s poll numbers are in tailspin – watch for him to launch a strike in Libya or Iran. He is desperate. Don't let Obama play the Iran card in order to start a war in order to get elected--be careful Republicans! I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face! Remember what I previously said--Obama will someday attack Iran in order to show how tough he is. Remember that I predicted a long time ago that President Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly-not skilled! Last edited by Dowly; 06-14-19 at 12:55 AM.

06-14-19, 12:55 AM	#9
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,572 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	So it would appear. At least we/they are putting the blame on Iran for allowing the attacks to happen regardless if they are sanctioned by their government. I really want to know the truth about this and feel I can trust nothing for an information source. I guess that means I've fallen victim to the misinformation campaigns sowing of mistrust. Damn! __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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06-14-19, 10:26 AM	#13
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Have the tanker and the small boat on that video been positively IDed by in dependent, non-US sources? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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