Sony

Rockin Robbins · 03-02-08, 08:41 PM

Those of you who had trouble with Sony's SecuROM telling you what legal, non-pirating, Microsoft programs you could run on your machines prior to patch 1.3: WARNING: SecuROM is back.
Other than helping SUBSIM with a tiny part of my purchase, I've just wasted my money. I resent not being warned before I spent the money. I would just have given the $10 to SUBSIM.

03-02-08, 10:44 PM

Verified by a hex exam of the files.
But I haven't had any problems so far.
Sonic and WinISO work fine.
:hmm:

Rockin Robbins · 03-03-08, 05:58 AM

especially Process Explorer, Sony does not allow you to run SH4 U-Boat Missions. Mark Russinovich, author of Microsoft's Sysinternals Utilities, was the man who discovered Sony's infamous virus-like rootkit, which disabled lawful CD and DVD functions on your computer when you played a Sony music CD on your computer. He cost Sony tens of millions of dollars. Now SecuROM checks running processes for Process Explorer, at least, refusing to run SH4 unless you remove the program and reboot.

Process Explorer is a harmless, Microsoft utility to give you a slightly more useful Task Manager and is about as pirate-useful as Disk Defrag. This is only a personal battle between Sony and Russinovich and we are put in the middle, being told what legal and lawful software a game will allow us to run on our machines.

I'll leave it to you to determine whether that is right.

Major Johnson · 03-03-08, 07:56 AM

And your course of action is what, not install the add-on?? And miss all the improvements to the game?? Seems to me we're gonna get this securom whether it's by digital download or DVD. Although I've posted other concerns with the digital download, I played through the training missions, again, yesterday, and had thoroughly good time!!! Can't wait to start my campaign!

danlisa · 03-03-08, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Major Johnson

And your course of action is what....

Remove it. I suspect RR will do/already has.

It is now surplus to requirements as the game no longer requires it (following NO-CD in patch 1.3 IIRC). So the question remains, why include it within the 1.5 download in the first place.

Besides, I don't think RR's problem is the fact that SecuROM is included/installed but rather that it serves no purpose, is particularly troublesome to other OS processes and is way too virulent (by design) to be accepted by genuine owners of any software,music or generally purchased content.

Dowly · 03-03-08, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Major Johnson

And your course of action is what....

Remove it. I suspect RR will do/already has.

It is now surplus to requirements as the game no longer requires it (following NO-CD in patch 1.3 IIRC). So the question remains, why include it within the 1.5 download in the first place.

To keep the crackers busy?

AkbarGulag · 03-03-08, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

is particularly troublesome to other OS processes and is way too virulent (by design) to be accepted by genuine owners of any software,music or generally purchased content.

Major Johnson · 03-03-08, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

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Originally Posted by Major Johnson

And your course of action is what....

Remove it. I suspect RR will do/already has.

Remove what?? Securom or the add-on?? Since RR said he wasted his money, I assume he was removing the Add-on.

I haven't had any cd issues that I know of. In fact, I didn't have any when I first installed the game, and patched to 1.1.

03-02-08, 08:41 PM	#1
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	SecuROM is back! Those of you who had trouble with Sony's SecuROM telling you what legal, non-pirating, Microsoft programs you could run on your machines prior to patch 1.3: WARNING: SecuROM is back. Other than helping SUBSIM with a tiny part of my purchase, I've just wasted my money. I resent not being warned before I spent the money. I would just have given the $10 to SUBSIM. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

03-03-08, 05:58 AM	#3
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	If you use any of Microsoft's sysinternals utilities... especially Process Explorer, Sony does not allow you to run SH4 U-Boat Missions. Mark Russinovich, author of Microsoft's Sysinternals Utilities, was the man who discovered Sony's infamous virus-like rootkit, which disabled lawful CD and DVD functions on your computer when you played a Sony music CD on your computer. He cost Sony tens of millions of dollars. Now SecuROM checks running processes for Process Explorer, at least, refusing to run SH4 unless you remove the program and reboot. Process Explorer is a harmless, Microsoft utility to give you a slightly more useful Task Manager and is about as pirate-useful as Disk Defrag. This is only a personal battle between Sony and Russinovich and we are put in the middle, being told what legal and lawful software a game will allow us to run on our machines. I'll leave it to you to determine whether that is right. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

03-03-08, 07:56 AM	#4
Major Johnson Frogman Join Date: May 2007 Location: Jeresey Shore USA Posts: 288 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	And your course of action is what, not install the add-on?? And miss all the improvements to the game?? Seems to me we're gonna get this securom whether it's by digital download or DVD. Although I've posted other concerns with the digital download, I played through the training missions, again, yesterday, and had thoroughly good time!!! Can't wait to start my campaign! __________________ MJ! ASUS Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 AMD FX8350 8 Core 4.0 Ghz CPU GeForce GTX 560 Ti PCIx Video Card 8 GB Corsair Vengence RAM Rosewill 850W Power Supply Last edited by Major Johnson; 03-03-08 at 09:44 AM.

03-02-08, 10:44 PM	#2
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Verified by a hex exam of the files. But I haven't had any problems so far. Sonic and WinISO work fine. :hmm: