[WIP] Mr. FX and urfisch at work - Flak Shells

urfisch · 07-03-08, 11:24 AM

after month found some time to look back into this wonderful community

lots of things have been improved and i wonder, what might be impossible...as nearly everything is going to be modded and it seems, as if all mystics of the code had been discovered. but although many things have been released (even my always wanted dive angle mod!!!

i wanted to ask what about modding the following:

flak/cannon - empty shells fly during firing

ai boats - contact radio messages

crew - walking by

flak:
when firing at planes, i always missed some shells dropping...so as many things can be added (like the water streamin thing, very nice!) why not add some nice shells? the model i can deliver...but how to get this implemented?

ai-boats:
i still found no time to test the new gwx or wac 3 supermod, pitty sad. but i wonder if there are wolfpacks acting (i know search function

if so, would it be possible to make them send radio messages, when discovering an enemy convoi or ship? i guess its hard work, but it might be possible.

crew:
on service, i always felt a bit lonely in my boat. as if there are only 5 men with me. so would it be possible, to make some crewmember walk on by? passing the central-station?

regards
urfisch

Letum · 07-03-08, 11:44 AM

So far as I know SH3, only the 3rd option is possibly viable and even then it would
require far more work than it is worth, but feel free to have a go if you like.

TheDarkWraith · 07-03-08, 11:47 AM

thinking out loud here: use a ParticleGenerator to produce the shell objects. Tie it to the firing of the flak gun (probably have to tie it to the effect called for under effect in the wpn_cannon controller or even embed it into the effect itself). Should work.
Would you mind sending me the model and I'll do a quick 'proof-of-concept' and then hand it over to you for finalizing (if the idea works)?

urfisch · 07-04-08, 05:05 AM

hey racerboy

no problem. please drop a pm with your mail. coding is not my business. i more deal with ideas, modeling and texturing.

regards

difool2 · 07-04-08, 11:33 AM

Racerboy's back!? Welcome back dude!

Tuddley3 · 07-04-08, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urfisch

ai-boats:
i still found no time to test the new gwx or wac 3 supermod, pitty sad. but i wonder if there are wolfpacks acting (i know search function

if so, would it be possible to make them send radio messages, when discovering an enemy convoi or ship? i guess its hard work, but it might be possible.

I know at least in WAC there are wolfpacks. I run across them all the time. I've seen up to 12 Uboats in one pack. I've not seen any in battle yet, maybe WAC 3.0 will have some Wolfpack action.

07-04-08, 10:10 PM

Crew walking by could be done.
Do several animations on the time scale,
and have him duck at the right moment.
keyframe animate that and he goes through the open hatch.
Just will look weird since the forward hatch is not open.
But that could be animated and timed as a seperate animation.
Then a flat scene behind so it 'looks' kind real when he opens
the door and steps through.

urfisch · 07-05-08, 06:27 AM

privateer, that sounds promising! i could do the animation and modeling...could you do the coding?

Murr44 · 07-05-08, 12:02 PM

How about a retractable bollard for the type VII boats? I read that the bollard (located on the forward deck) on them was retracted when submerged to help reduce drag. Or is this hard-coded?

Just a thought...

Cezbor · 07-07-08, 05:58 AM

Maybe something else ... like .... an animation of crew on the forward deck trying to reload external torpedoes or repair minor hull damage (vide: dry docks crew animations, repair teams at harbours)? It would add a lot of atmosphere to the sim. (... and tons of work too :hmm: ). What do you think mates?

urfisch · 07-09-08, 06:09 AM

i send privateer a model of an empty 2cm shell...but heard nothing since...

07-09-08, 07:17 PM

If it's not sent to my e-mail,
I won't get it.
I have shut off PM's.

TheDarkWraith · 07-09-08, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urfisch

flak/cannon - empty shells fly during firing
flak:
when firing at planes, i always missed some shells dropping...so as many things can be added (like the water streamin thing, very nice!) why not add some nice shells? the model i can deliver...but how to get this implemented?

implementation is easy enough. I had to resize the shell model you sent me for it was WAY too big. I finally had time tonight to sit down for a couple of hours and slap something together real quick for this. Results look good! The shell even spins on all axis's after being ejected. There's more work to be done on it but the proof-of-concept works

first shot from 20mm flak gun:

watching shell fall and spin on all axis's:

fired another shot for the fun of it to watch two shells fall and spin:

and rapid fire of flak gun:

iambecomelife · 07-09-08, 09:21 PM

PLINK! PLINK!

urfisch · 07-10-08, 03:53 AM

wonderful! implementation was easy???

ok, i see...mr.fx has come my way! stunning...

07-03-08, 11:24 AM	#1
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	[WIP] Mr. FX and urfisch at work - Flak Shells after month found some time to look back into this wonderful community lots of things have been improved and i wonder, what might be impossible...as nearly everything is going to be modded and it seems, as if all mystics of the code had been discovered. but although many things have been released (even my always wanted dive angle mod!!! i wanted to ask what about modding the following: flak/cannon - empty shells fly during firing ai boats - contact radio messages crew - walking by flak: when firing at planes, i always missed some shells dropping...so as many things can be added (like the water streamin thing, very nice!) why not add some nice shells? the model i can deliver...but how to get this implemented? ai-boats: i still found no time to test the new gwx or wac 3 supermod, pitty sad. but i wonder if there are wolfpacks acting (i know search function if so, would it be possible to make them send radio messages, when discovering an enemy convoi or ship? i guess its hard work, but it might be possible. crew: on service, i always felt a bit lonely in my boat. as if there are only 5 men with me. so would it be possible, to make some crewmember walk on by? passing the central-station? regards urfisch __________________ Last edited by urfisch; 07-12-08 at 07:44 AM. Reason: update

07-03-08, 11:44 AM	#2
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	So far as I know SH3, only the 3rd option is possibly viable and even then it would require far more work than it is worth, but feel free to have a go if you like. __________________

07-04-08, 05:05 AM	#4
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	hey racerboy no problem. please drop a pm with your mail. coding is not my business. i more deal with ideas, modeling and texturing. regards __________________

07-05-08, 06:27 AM	#8
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	privateer, that sounds promising! i could do the animation and modeling...could you do the coding? __________________

07-07-08, 05:58 AM	#10
Cezbor 中国水兵 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bia³ystok, Polska Posts: 272 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Maybe something else ... like .... an animation of crew on the forward deck trying to reload external torpedoes or repair minor hull damage (vide: dry docks crew animations, repair teams at harbours)? It would add a lot of atmosphere to the sim. (... and tons of work too :hmm: ). What do you think mates? __________________ "U-106" No one will be forgotten...

07-03-08, 11:47 AM	#3
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	thinking out loud here: use a ParticleGenerator to produce the shell objects. Tie it to the firing of the flak gun (probably have to tie it to the effect called for under effect in the wpn_cannon controller or even embed it into the effect itself). Should work. Would you mind sending me the model and I'll do a quick 'proof-of-concept' and then hand it over to you for finalizing (if the idea works)?

07-04-08, 11:33 AM	#5
difool2 Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Racerboy's back!? Welcome back dude!

07-04-08, 10:10 PM	#7
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Crew walking by could be done. Do several animations on the time scale, and have him duck at the right moment. keyframe animate that and he goes through the open hatch. Just will look weird since the forward hatch is not open. But that could be animated and timed as a seperate animation. Then a flat scene behind so it 'looks' kind real when he opens the door and steps through.

07-05-08, 12:02 PM	#9
Murr44 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 913 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	How about a retractable bollard for the type VII boats? I read that the bollard (located on the forward deck) on them was retracted when submerged to help reduce drag. Or is this hard-coded? Just a thought...

07-09-08, 06:09 AM	#11
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	i send privateer a model of an empty 2cm shell...but heard nothing since... __________________

07-09-08, 07:17 PM	#12
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If it's not sent to my e-mail, I won't get it. I have shut off PM's.

07-09-08, 09:21 PM	#14
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,706 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	PLINK! PLINK! __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

07-10-08, 03:53 AM	#15
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	wonderful! implementation was easy??? ok, i see...mr.fx has come my way! stunning... __________________