The level to which FOX drives manipulation...

Skybird · 07-03-08, 06:42 AM

... is not only malicious and demagogic, but simply disgusting, not to mention personally offending.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003823885
http://mediamatters.org/items/200807020002

Such things can be done in indicated satire and carricatures, but throwing it into regular programs and trying to make the victim unsympathetic to the audience that way, borders to criminal energy.

Unfortunately, mass opinion can be easily manipulated by adjusting sympathy and antipathy.

And many people buy it, uncritically (else there would be no point in trying it).

This way, values like free speech, and free elections can be hollowed out and abandoned without ever needing to officially abandon the principle of free speech and free elections.

FOX - "uargh..." Even in Germany that name has become a synonyme for very bad quality "journalism" and abusing media power for malicious manipulation of media freedom. To call it a pure propaganda station is closer to the truth.

August · 07-03-08, 07:16 AM

Says the guy who takes the Huffington Post as gospel...

Methinks Skybird is offended by viewpoints he does not agree with.

VipertheSniper · 07-03-08, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Says the guy who takes the Huffington Post as gospel...

Methinks Skybird is offended by viewpoints he does not agree with.

just shoot the messenger all you want, FOX News has done the deed and got caught red handed...

Skybird · 07-03-08, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

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Originally Posted by August

Says the guy who takes the Huffington Post as gospel...

Methinks Skybird is offended by viewpoints he does not agree with.

Says a guy who has adapted in full to FOX' standards.

August · 07-03-08, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

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Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

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Originally Posted by August

Says the guy who takes the Huffington Post as gospel...

Methinks Skybird is offended by viewpoints he does not agree with.

Says a guy who has adapted in full to FOX' standards.

The only time i watch or read Fox is when you link it here.

SUBMAN1 · 07-03-08, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Says the guy who takes the Huffington Post as gospel...

Methinks Skybird is offended by viewpoints he does not agree with.

That's some true words right there!

And no - I never watch Fox myself unless posted here either, or posted on Google News.

And you know who has the best record for Bias? BBC! Your Speigel is a close second!

-S

MothBalls · 07-03-08, 12:05 PM

Fox news is tabloid television with a twist, they have a political agenda to promote and they slant stories to promote that agenda. I don't watch or read them because they have zero credibility as a news source.

SUBMAN1 · 07-03-08, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MothBalls

Fox news is tabloid television with a twist, they have a political agenda to promote and they slant stories to promote that agenda. I don't watch or read them because they have zero credibility as a news source.

The same could be said for each news agency. When wasn't Speigel, or the BBC, or The New York Times, or the LA Times not pushing an agenda? Welcome to the world of news! Better not watch any of it!

-S

Tchocky · 07-03-08, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

And you know who has the best record for Bias? BBC! Your Speigel is a close second!

-S

Let's have a source on that.

SUBMAN1 · 07-03-08, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

And you know who has the best record for Bias? BBC! Your Speigel is a close second!

-S

Let's have a source on that.

Go read any article. I particulary like the one on knifes! Hahahahaha!

-S

Enigma · 07-03-08, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Tchocky
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
And you know who has the best record for Bias? BBC! Your Speigel is a close second!

-S

Let's have a source on that.

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Go read any article. I particulary like the one on knifes! Hahahahaha!

Does that translate roughly into "I don't have a source, I just blab unconfirmed nonsense that fits my own political stance regardless of the turth, much like Fox News"?

Just sayin'.

SUBMAN1 · 07-03-08, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma

Originally Posted by Tchocky
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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
And you know who has the best record for Bias? BBC! Your Speigel is a close second!

-S

Let's have a source on that.

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Go read any article. I particulary like the one on knifes! Hahahahaha!

Does that translate roughly into "I don't have a source, I just blab unconfirmed nonsense that fits my own political stance regardless of the turth, much like Fox News"?

Just sayin'.

Well, since you want to dig up OLD threads:

This is more damning than anything Fox has ever done:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...highlight=bias

And here is an example of what type of articles you can expect on the BBC:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ghlight=biased

You actually think Fox's thing is major? It is only a minor oops compared to what the BBC has done.

The problem with you people is, you have short term memories. All of this stuff has beeen rehashed and rehashed here before. Yet you always forget, and always ask for stupid sources. How about finding yourself for once? Aren't you guys smart enough to examine both sides of an issue? I do. How about giving it a try yourself! Imagine that?

-S

PS. Here is your headlines:

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Yes, we are biased on religion and politics, admit BBC executives

moose1am · 07-03-08, 12:46 PM

Back in the 1930's a law was passed that prevented this sort of news. Several GOP Presidents appointed new US Supreme Court Justices to the Court and they voted that law as unconstitutional. Thus FIX News and Fox Noise was born along with the Rush Limbaugh Lying and distorting radio program. America has been worse off ever since.

FOX NOISE is run by a former GOP Party Chairman and that should tell you how far they will go to distort the truth and to mislead the American Public.

Unfortunately they get by with these distortions all the time

I would vote to shut fox noise down in a heart beat. They should have the power to that TV network cut off for good.

The news has gotten to the point that half the time it's O'Reiley talking about Oberman and vise versa. When you get a Cable News Network spending more time attacking their competition than talking about REAL NEW, America Loses.

And to think that they used the logo "fair and balanced". They have never been fair and they are seldom balanced in their news broadcasts.

Give me" Politically Incorrect" back any day. They took that show off the air and put Tucker Carlson on instead. Now we have X GOP congressman on MSNBC giving a right slant to the news.

One former GOP Presidential Candidate that could get only less than 4% of the vote is on Cable News all the time. Who cares what he has to say. 96% of Americans who voted for the President chose to not vote for him and voted for Bush Instead. If not for the butterfly ballet he would not have gotten any votes.

This country has turned so far to the right it's pathetic. And look what it got us. Rich getting super rich and the poor walking to work as they can't afford to buy gasoline anymore.

EXXON with huge excessive and record profits and the number of people filing for bankruptcy at an all time high.

They won't care until the Stock Market Crashes and then you will hear those with all their money invested will start howling loudly.

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Originally Posted by Skybird

... is not only malicious and demagogic, but simply disgusting, not to mention personally offending.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003823885
http://mediamatters.org/items/200807020002

Such things can be done in indicated satire and caricatures, but throwing it into regular programs and trying to make the victim unsympathetic to the audience that way, borders to criminal energy.

Unfortunately, mass opinion can be easily manipulated by adjusting sympathy and antipathy.

And many people buy it, uncritically (else there would be no point in trying it).

This way, values like free speech, and free elections can be hollowed out and abandoned without ever needing to officially abandon the principle of free speech and free elections.

FOX - "uargh..." Even in Germany that name has become a synonym for very bad quality "journalism" and abusing media power for malicious manipulation of media freedom. To call it a pure propaganda station is closer to the truth.

Hakahura · 07-03-08, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

... is not only malicious and demagogic, but simply disgusting, not to mention personally offending.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003823885
http://mediamatters.org/items/200807020002

Such things can be done in indicated satire and carricatures, but throwing it into regular programs and trying to make the victim unsympathetic to the audience that way, borders to criminal energy.

Unfortunately, mass opinion can be easily manipulated by adjusting sympathy and antipathy.

And many people buy it, uncritically (else there would be no point in trying it).

This way, values like free speech, and free elections can be hollowed out and abandoned without ever needing to officially abandon the principle of free speech and free elections.

FOX - "uargh..." Even in Germany that name has become a synonyme for very bad quality "journalism" and abusing media power for malicious manipulation of media freedom. To call it a pure propaganda station is closer to the truth.

Relax Skybird, chill out and get some perspective.
Is it really all that bad?
Are you related or friends with these guys?

"Major news network distorts truth and tells lies"

Not exactly a newsflash, tell us something we didn't know.

Ishmael · 07-03-08, 08:11 PM

Actually, there is a mechanism available to address these issues. the Fox network has many network-owned affiliates across the country. All those affiliates REQUIRE licenses from the FCC to broadcast and are ONLY granted licenses to broadcast in the Public interest. So, if enough people from the communities in question were to show up at the annual License renewal hearings with video and documentary evidence, they could get those affiliates' licenses yanked. After all, how is the public interest served by manipulating photographs, repeating known falsehoods as facts and even suing in Florida state courts for the right to lie in their broadcasts?

07-03-08, 06:42 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,621 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The level to which FOX drives manipulation... ... is not only malicious and demagogic, but simply disgusting, not to mention personally offending. http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1003823885 http://mediamatters.org/items/200807020002 Such things can be done in indicated satire and carricatures, but throwing it into regular programs and trying to make the victim unsympathetic to the audience that way, borders to criminal energy. Unfortunately, mass opinion can be easily manipulated by adjusting sympathy and antipathy. And many people buy it, uncritically (else there would be no point in trying it). This way, values like free speech, and free elections can be hollowed out and abandoned without ever needing to officially abandon the principle of free speech and free elections. FOX - "uargh..." Even in Germany that name has become a synonyme for very bad quality "journalism" and abusing media power for malicious manipulation of media freedom. To call it a pure propaganda station is closer to the truth. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Says the guy who takes the Huffington Post as gospel... Methinks Skybird is offended by viewpoints he does not agree with. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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MothBalls Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Fox news is tabloid television with a twist, they have a political agenda to promote and they slant stories to promote that agenda. I don't watch or read them because they have zero credibility as a news source.

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Ishmael Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morro Bay, Ca. Posts: 659 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	Actually, there is a mechanism available to address these issues. the Fox network has many network-owned affiliates across the country. All those affiliates REQUIRE licenses from the FCC to broadcast and are ONLY granted licenses to broadcast in the Public interest. So, if enough people from the communities in question were to show up at the annual License renewal hearings with video and documentary evidence, they could get those affiliates' licenses yanked. After all, how is the public interest served by manipulating photographs, repeating known falsehoods as facts and even suing in Florida state courts for the right to lie in their broadcasts?