Crash to Desktop

Hanomag · 12-17-07, 03:06 PM

Kaluens,

This is an old issue. BUT I cant find any posts using the search engine in regards to this. So...

Whats up with the crash to desktop while in mid combat with a convoy?

I can reload the game fine but it gets to a certain stroke of the clock and CRASH!!

No matter what I try, where I run to hide in my boat, the inevitable crash still comes.

And yes it seems to happen when submerged.

Im am running GWX 2, SH3 with just Torp dmg mod and a uboat skin mod and thats it. I believe I have had this issue occurr when I didnt use any mods.

Luckily I save alot and only have to go back maybe 1 save to get my game back but still... would be nice to avert this nonsense.

bigboywooly · 12-17-07, 04:04 PM

When you get CTD'd a pop up box will appear saying SilentHunter had to close

There is a " click here " line below
Click that and will give you the error

Simdata
Sim.act
Kernel.dll

Etc

That will help narrow it down

Hanomag · 12-17-07, 07:42 PM

Kaluen BBWooly,

There is no way on gods green earth that I can possibly write all that crap down!

Hundreds of lines of gobbledeegook in a teeny tiny window with no way to cut and paste all of it. Heres what I could get from my event error log dunno if it helps at all.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Application Hang
Event Category: (101)
Event ID: 1002
Date: 12/17/2007
Time: 7:24:36 PM
User: N/A
Computer:
Description:
Hanging application sh3.exe, version 1.4.0.1, hang module hungapp, version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000.
For
Data:
0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat
0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang
0010: 20 20 73 68 33 2e 65 78 sh3.ex
0018: 65 20 31 2e 34 2e 30 2e e 1.4.0.
0020: 31 20 69 6e 20 68 75 6e 1 in hun
0028: 67 61 70 70 20 30 2e 30 gapp 0.0
0030: 2e 30 2e 30 20 61 74 20 .0.0 at
0038: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0
0040: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000

Ill be glad to send the other thing if u can tell me how to copy and paste allllll that stuff.

Hanomag · 12-18-07, 12:13 PM

Ok I have been watching carfeully and it seesm to be an attacking issue. For example In mid convoy, I am lining up a shot on a Empire type freighter and a Dido class. I shoot the empire, he sinks, one eel. Im lining up the Dido class and thats when I CTD with the above error. So what I did was, I didnt shoot the empire and just sank the Dido class and NO CTD. So go figure. At that point I guessed the convoy was bugged maybe or that ship...so I sailed away leaving a completely unescorted convoy ripe with juicy targets to steam away.

I proceeded with my mission with no further incident till meeting up with the next convoy. After sinking an escort and chasing after another wammo CTD. So I reloaded a save from 15 mins earlier and that CTD. So I realoaded one from 20 mins b4 that and it also crashed. How is this thing following me back through time and F'ing up my earlier saves. WTF!!

TheBlackHand · 01-03-08, 06:26 PM

I've had the same problem. Almost to a "T".

The game has crashed four times on four consecutive nights. I have yet to complete my first patrol! Very frustrating as I've been a couple of hours into the patrol & looking forward to some serious convoy action.

Each time the game has crashed I've been submerged. Each has occured during a convoy attack. I read up on this last night, prior to the last crash. Someone mentioned a stock SH3 bug that CTD's while doing crew management when submerged. I believe the second to last crash occured when I did a "submerged cruise" command. Last night it crashed when I was manually managing the crew. I've forgotten the circumstances of the first couple of crashes, other than that I was involved with a convoy attack. Last night I meant to save the error details but I can't find out where the log is stored. (Anyone who knows, tell me how to find them and I'll post the pertinent details.)

I'm also running GWX 2 and the only other mods I have are a couple of sub skins.

I'm sailing in a TypeVIIB.

I don't recall this many CTD's with any other mod enabled or with the stock game.

I certainly hope that help is on the way as I spent a LOT of time getting GWX set up. It appears to be a fantastic mod and I'd hate to have to remove it.

(Update: I finally finished my first patrol. I made sure to rollback SH3 Commander, then I uninstalled/installed a few GWX mods as well as the Torpedo Damage Final. No troubles, but I saved often, always while on the surface.)

its a viic · 01-04-08, 11:44 AM

I dont know if this will help... you might already have done these things.

Shut down explorer and antivirus. Defrag computer. I usually defrag before every game. Add memory to computer if you havent already. Get a 512mb video card.
I hope some of this helps. I used to have the same problems until I switched my video card. Also get rid of unnecessary programs that take up your computers memory.

Hanomag · 01-04-08, 10:40 PM

My system is AMD 64 3400 2.20ghz / 3GB of Ram / Nvidia 7800 GS / Windows XP

so I doubt its a resource thing.... :hmm:

TheBlackHand · 01-08-08, 01:13 PM

Oh Christ!

ANOTHER CTD last night. Not once, but twice.

The first one wasn't so bad since I had only sunk one ship and it was only 11:30pm.

The last one was EXTREMELY frustrating as I had spent the better part of an hour (1:15am - 2:30am) doing battle with a large convoy. I had sunk three ships (two warships!) and was in the process of sneaking away when . . .

. . . the black screen of death.

NOOOOOO!!!

My wife was mad enough that, once again, I was sneaking into bed after midnight since beginning to re-play SHIII, but the fact that I screamed loud enough to wake the household at 2am means I'll be cooking my own dinner tonight.

These crashes are totally unsat. Thankfullly, my last save should allow me to find the same convoy once again . . . but I'm begginning to wonder if its worth it.

The latest two crashes occured as I was viewing the boat in 3D via the "," key.

I'll remove ALL mods and simply play the stock GWX 2.0 tonight. (BTW, all of the mods that I'm using were either packaged with GWX or are "GWX compatible". Or, are they?)

PLEASE HELP! If it happens again I'm quitting GWX for good.

(I NEVER had these crashes with stock SHIII . . . I suppose I could go back to that but it seems so droll after getting a toe wet with GWX.)

bigboywooly · 01-08-08, 01:56 PM

Where the warships already sunk or on way down ?
There is an issue with the armed trawler - will locaye the fix link for you

What boat was you watching ?
Yours or target ?
If target what was it

Tool · 01-08-08, 02:15 PM

I've also had 3 CTDs, and all when approaching/attacking an armed trawler...

Seems like this is now a known bug..

Tool.

TheBlackHand · 01-08-08, 02:15 PM

The warships had already sunk. I hit each with a lucky shot. Destroyers.

The convoy had moved to the horizon but one, lone escort was hunting me down.

I believe it was a destroyer that might've been hunting me. It could'be been one of the tubby ones. I've forgotten the nomenclature . . . but as I recall it was a legit destroyer.

As I recall, I had come out of silent running at about thirty feet to hit flank speed & dive deeper as the escort passed. I was veiwing my sub externally as it went into the dive. I may have been giving the order to return to silent running . . . but I think not. Either way . . . bam. The music sticks, the screen goes black and my mind goes numb. Next, the error message and I fail to repress a murderous scream.

The only thing that seems to tie all of my CTD's together is that I was submerged and there was a convoy in the vicinity.

I forgot to save the error message. Or, I simply shut down in disgust.

If it happens again I will be sure to recored the error.

bigboywooly · 01-08-08, 02:19 PM

lol
yes error very useful and so would the warship type
help narrow things down
there are a lot of ships out there

bigboywooly · 01-08-08, 02:50 PM

Fix for armed trawler

http://www.mediafire.com/?94t0wzwzt2g

In case thats the ship

Jimbuna · 01-08-08, 05:18 PM

Could well be BB :hmm:

TheBlackHand · 01-09-08, 12:16 AM

Thanks for the armed trawler patch. I had no idea that was available. Hope it helps.

I also think I might've found one source of a problem . . . if not the problem.

I went to check out the SH3 Update that you've linked in your sig. Turns out I already have it. However, I also discovered that I might not have installed it correctly. I unzipped the files to my SH3Commander/cfg folder, as instructed. I must've also done this in the Silent Hunter/Data/Cfg directory as well since I found a folder in there with the update files in it. I wonder if that folder has anything to do with the problems I've been experiencing?

Also, I checked to see if my system needed defragmenting. It doesn't. However, I've been doing a Disk Cleanup now for about the last hour. Jeeez its taking a looong time to "compress old files". I've had this PC for three years & I don't think I've ever used Disk Cleanup! Maybe this'll make evvverything work better.

We shall see.

12-17-07, 03:06 PM	#1
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Crash to Desktop Kaluens, This is an old issue. BUT I cant find any posts using the search engine in regards to this. So... Whats up with the crash to desktop while in mid combat with a convoy? I can reload the game fine but it gets to a certain stroke of the clock and CRASH!! No matter what I try, where I run to hide in my boat, the inevitable crash still comes. And yes it seems to happen when submerged. Im am running GWX 2, SH3 with just Torp dmg mod and a uboat skin mod and thats it. I believe I have had this issue occurr when I didnt use any mods. Luckily I save alot and only have to go back maybe 1 save to get my game back but still... would be nice to avert this nonsense. __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

12-17-07, 04:04 PM	#2
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	When you get CTD'd a pop up box will appear saying SilentHunter had to close There is a " click here " line below Click that and will give you the error Simdata Sim.act Kernel.dll Etc That will help narrow it down __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

12-17-07, 07:42 PM	#3
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Kaluen BBWooly, There is no way on gods green earth that I can possibly write all that crap down! Hundreds of lines of gobbledeegook in a teeny tiny window with no way to cut and paste all of it. Heres what I could get from my event error log dunno if it helps at all. Event Type: Error Event Source: Application Hang Event Category: (101) Event ID: 1002 Date: 12/17/2007 Time: 7:24:36 PM User: N/A Computer: Description: Hanging application sh3.exe, version 1.4.0.1, hang module hungapp, version 0.0.0.0, hang address 0x00000000. For Data: 0000: 41 70 70 6c 69 63 61 74 Applicat 0008: 69 6f 6e 20 48 61 6e 67 ion Hang 0010: 20 20 73 68 33 2e 65 78 sh3.ex 0018: 65 20 31 2e 34 2e 30 2e e 1.4.0. 0020: 31 20 69 6e 20 68 75 6e 1 in hun 0028: 67 61 70 70 20 30 2e 30 gapp 0.0 0030: 2e 30 2e 30 20 61 74 20 .0.0 at 0038: 6f 66 66 73 65 74 20 30 offset 0 0040: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000 Ill be glad to send the other thing if u can tell me how to copy and paste allllll that stuff. __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

12-18-07, 12:13 PM	#4
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	May Day Sos Ok I have been watching carfeully and it seesm to be an attacking issue. For example In mid convoy, I am lining up a shot on a Empire type freighter and a Dido class. I shoot the empire, he sinks, one eel. Im lining up the Dido class and thats when I CTD with the above error. So what I did was, I didnt shoot the empire and just sank the Dido class and NO CTD. So go figure. At that point I guessed the convoy was bugged maybe or that ship...so I sailed away leaving a completely unescorted convoy ripe with juicy targets to steam away. I proceeded with my mission with no further incident till meeting up with the next convoy. After sinking an escort and chasing after another wammo CTD. So I reloaded a save from 15 mins earlier and that CTD. So I realoaded one from 20 mins b4 that and it also crashed. How is this thing following me back through time and F'ing up my earlier saves. WTF!! __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

01-03-08, 06:26 PM	#5
TheBlackHand Seaman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 37 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I've had the same problem. Almost to a "T". The game has crashed four times on four consecutive nights. I have yet to complete my first patrol! Very frustrating as I've been a couple of hours into the patrol & looking forward to some serious convoy action. Each time the game has crashed I've been submerged. Each has occured during a convoy attack. I read up on this last night, prior to the last crash. Someone mentioned a stock SH3 bug that CTD's while doing crew management when submerged. I believe the second to last crash occured when I did a "submerged cruise" command. Last night it crashed when I was manually managing the crew. I've forgotten the circumstances of the first couple of crashes, other than that I was involved with a convoy attack. Last night I meant to save the error details but I can't find out where the log is stored. (Anyone who knows, tell me how to find them and I'll post the pertinent details.) I'm also running GWX 2 and the only other mods I have are a couple of sub skins. I'm sailing in a TypeVIIB. I don't recall this many CTD's with any other mod enabled or with the stock game. I certainly hope that help is on the way as I spent a LOT of time getting GWX set up. It appears to be a fantastic mod and I'd hate to have to remove it. (Update: I finally finished my first patrol. I made sure to rollback SH3 Commander, then I uninstalled/installed a few GWX mods as well as the Torpedo Damage Final. No troubles, but I saved often, always while on the surface.) Last edited by TheBlackHand; 01-04-08 at 10:26 AM.

01-04-08, 11:44 AM	#6
its a viic Gunner Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 97 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I dont know if this will help... you might already have done these things. Shut down explorer and antivirus. Defrag computer. I usually defrag before every game. Add memory to computer if you havent already. Get a 512mb video card. I hope some of this helps. I used to have the same problems until I switched my video card. Also get rid of unnecessary programs that take up your computers memory.

01-04-08, 10:40 PM	#7
Hanomag Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LI NY Posts: 964 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	My system is AMD 64 3400 2.20ghz / 3GB of Ram / Nvidia 7800 GS / Windows XP so I doubt its a resource thing.... :hmm: __________________ "Only if I can save first..."

01-08-08, 01:13 PM	#8
TheBlackHand Seaman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 37 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Oh Christ! ANOTHER CTD last night. Not once, but twice. The first one wasn't so bad since I had only sunk one ship and it was only 11:30pm. The last one was EXTREMELY frustrating as I had spent the better part of an hour (1:15am - 2:30am) doing battle with a large convoy. I had sunk three ships (two warships!) and was in the process of sneaking away when . . . . . . the black screen of death. NOOOOOO!!! My wife was mad enough that, once again, I was sneaking into bed after midnight since beginning to re-play SHIII, but the fact that I screamed loud enough to wake the household at 2am means I'll be cooking my own dinner tonight. These crashes are totally unsat. Thankfullly, my last save should allow me to find the same convoy once again . . . but I'm begginning to wonder if its worth it. The latest two crashes occured as I was viewing the boat in 3D via the "," key. I'll remove ALL mods and simply play the stock GWX 2.0 tonight. (BTW, all of the mods that I'm using were either packaged with GWX or are "GWX compatible". Or, are they?) PLEASE HELP! If it happens again I'm quitting GWX for good. (I NEVER had these crashes with stock SHIII . . . I suppose I could go back to that but it seems so droll after getting a toe wet with GWX.)

01-08-08, 01:56 PM	#9
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Where the warships already sunk or on way down ? There is an issue with the armed trawler - will locaye the fix link for you What boat was you watching ? Yours or target ? If target what was it __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

01-08-08, 02:15 PM	#10
Tool Planesman Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 189 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I've also had 3 CTDs, and all when approaching/attacking an armed trawler... Seems like this is now a known bug.. Tool. __________________ 309th Wild Ducks www.56thvfw.com

01-08-08, 02:19 PM	#12
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	lol yes error very useful and so would the warship type help narrow things down there are a lot of ships out there __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

01-08-08, 02:50 PM	#13
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Fix for armed trawler http://www.mediafire.com/?94t0wzwzt2g In case thats the ship __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

01-08-08, 05:18 PM	#14
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Could well be BB :hmm: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-09-08, 12:16 AM	#15
TheBlackHand Seaman Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 37 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the armed trawler patch. I had no idea that was available. Hope it helps. I also think I might've found one source of a problem . . . if not the problem. I went to check out the SH3 Update that you've linked in your sig. Turns out I already have it. However, I also discovered that I might not have installed it correctly. I unzipped the files to my SH3Commander/cfg folder, as instructed. I must've also done this in the Silent Hunter/Data/Cfg directory as well since I found a folder in there with the update files in it. I wonder if that folder has anything to do with the problems I've been experiencing? Also, I checked to see if my system needed defragmenting. It doesn't. However, I've been doing a Disk Cleanup now for about the last hour. Jeeez its taking a looong time to "compress old files". I've had this PC for three years & I don't think I've ever used Disk Cleanup! Maybe this'll make evvverything work better. We shall see.