Possible Eye Candy Mod

[U-snafu]

Airport Mod (work in progress)



I wanted to make a small mod where I could take one of the sh3 aircraft and be able to script it with placing it on the ground as a parked airplane (sort of like Cb's Float plane ). I used the stuka because it already has wheels on it so it would mesh alright with the ground. I tried the method I used for the subpen AA guns. I copied it to the land folder, typed it as "400" and set it's min and max speed as 0.000 in the CFG file. It showed as available in the editor land roster and it automaticly set at the land height where I scripted it. My results in Game:



:rotfl:

Tried a somewhat different approach--I copied the Stuka data air folder "ADB_JU87Stuka" related roster cfg file and TNormal & TLowres files----renamed all the required files to "LDB_JU87Stuka" placed it back into the air folder,Changed type to "305-helecopter" and changed it's min/max speed to 0.000. It showed as available in the editor as a helicopter along with it's stock Dive bomber type. I scripted it in and placed it at 4.5 meters (above the land hieght of 4 meters)so it would "hover" just above the ground and not get destroyed from the ground contact. My results in game:--nothing,nada, did not show. Obviously it would not be that simple.

Then I found the threads on cloning and pack3d. I figure if i can clone the stuka properly, I could tweak the clone's files to get rid of it's damage properties so I can place it as a ground unit and not affect the default "air stuka" in game. I downloaded all 5 versions of pack3d, timetraveler's tweaker progs, and wings 3d. Gonna be a little bit getting accustomed to the progs but answers to a couple of questions could help me out.
1.) what version of pack 3d is the best to use?
2.) if and after I get it to work--is there a way to make a terrain feature like a
airstrip(even possibly just a dirt strip using the terrain repacker)?
3.) Is this idea even possible or am I wishful thinking and way off base?
4.) Has this "parked aircraft" already been done? If so I can stop this insane compulsion to try this even though you will only be able to see it briefly in game as you sail by the coast or port.

[bigboywooly]

Try V2 of pack3d
Also try just deleting the Zon file from the aircrafts folder as well

Like the Ideas though
Did you have a look at the make up of CB aircraft ?
May give you a few folder ideas

[U-snafu]

Thks for the Zon file idea, Going to try that with my fist method----still think I'm gonna have to clone so I can get rid of the moving Propeller and engine noise--or does the Zon file cover that along with the damage?

If I remember correctly-I think Cb's plane was a cloned pt boat and reskinned and changed in pack3d-although not sure. That could be a possible route by cloning and reskinning a land unit if that can be done.

[bigboywooly]

Yeah just D\L CBs mod
Its a good idea but a bit unusable these days with generic type=0 patrol boats
Be a bit odd to see a stationary airplane in the middle of the sea :rotfl:

Maybe the best thing would be to redesignate it as a land unit\rename the bits you need then clone

Try it that way

[U-snafu]

Gonna try --thks for the idea--more back later

[U-snafu]

Little thick headed on the cloning:

Copied and renamed "ADB_JU87Stuka" to "ADB_LandJU87Stuka" in the air folder along w/all It's subfolders. Changed it's CFG file from "DBJU87Stuka" to "DBLandJU87Stuka" and copied and remaned the same for the roster CFG file. Then added line "DBLandJU87Stuka=JU87 Stuka Dive Bomber" to Air english names.

opened V2 pack3D and hit "get dat" from sh3/data/air/ADB_LandJU87Stuka/Dat file---when it appeared in pack 3d--hit clone. bottom line on lower left corner of pack3d window-stated "cloning ADB_LandJU87Stuka.cam"--and that was it, window stayed that way.

Does that mean it's cloned and ready to go???

Do I need to do the same for the Zon, DSD, and Sim file from the ADB_LandJU87Stuka folder???

DO I need to rename, open, and clone the dat files from the "JU87Stuka" dat files in the data/Textures folder(TLowres and TNormal) also???

[Safe-Keeper]

Good luck, looking good.

Little thick headed on the cloning:

Me, too.

Huh, cloning is a pain in Silent Hunter III. Plain and simple.

I Hope, with a capital H, that it's made far, far easier for the sequel. In fact, I don't want to see "open your favourite Hex Editor" once in a tutorial on simple things such as duplicating objects or adding weapon slots to units.
[/childish rant]

[U-snafu]

Huh, cloning is a pain in Silent Hunter III. Plain and simple.

Yah, the old concept of "Increased repeated effort" does not compensate for "Lack of Knowledge, skill, and talent" in my case.

well I answered one of my own questions----V2 pack 3d states Zon,DSD, and Sim files unable to be cloned.

[bigboywooly]

For your purposes that is ok

As long as you have renamed all folder contents the same then hit clone you should be ok

If you open the dat again with pack3d it should say the "*new name*.dat ok" bottom left

[U-snafu]

bbw,
yes-just checked and it states " ADB_LandJU87Stuka.dat" ok.

Thanks for the confirmation--just wanted to make sure I had all the steps done before loading up the test in game.

Once I'm sure it works in game alongside it's parent-I can move the clone to the land folder then I have some ideas to tweak the zon and sim files with Timetravelers tools to keep it from self-destructing on the ground. (or try just removing them like you said earlier)

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by U-snafu

bbw,
yes-just checked and it states " ADB_LandJU87Stuka.dat" ok.

Thanks for the confirmation--just wanted to make sure I had all the steps done before loading up the test in game.

Once I'm sure it works in game alongside it's parent-I can move the clone to the land folder then I have some ideas to tweak the zon and sim files with Timetravelers tools to keep it from self-destructing on the ground. (or try just removing them like you said earlier)

Ok well let me know how you get on
Am trying it myself but still as an air unit but keeps self destructing :rotfl:
May have to reconsider that

[AVGWarhawk]

I don't know about your mod U-snafu but your sig is hilarious!:rotfl::rotfl:they closed by thread on these characters...spam as it where LOL!

[U-snafu]

bbw,
well the clone plane flies along perfect with it's parent-----now gonna move it to land folder, type it as 403, and attempt to figure out how to tweak it with sh3 mini tweaker or inspecter.
"Am trying it myself but still as an air unit but keeps self destructing :rotfl:
May have to reconsider that"-----yah, removed the Zon and Sim while it was typed as air unit and it still rolled around on the ground in flames in game.

If I remember correctly I think last time I looked at the stock tweak files in the mini tweaker--the zon file had a minimum crash height of 60m. gonna see what changing that value along with hitpoints, engine rpm, and such does.


AVGWarhawk,
Everyone kept talking bout "her" but she only stays around for a post or two--so I saved the image when she visited me so people would know what we were talking about in that now deceased thread:rotfl:

[U-snafu]

Well, used sh3 Inspecter and changed max speed to 0.000000 (min speed had to be changed to 0.00000 in cfg file), the engine rpm from 1184 to 0000 and engine rpm from 1000 to 0000, and finally min height from 60m to 10m (inspecter wouldn't let me change to below 10m). placed in in the air folder as type 305 and also tried land folder as type 403. scripted it in where the land height was above 10m and loaded up the game. CTD's right as initialization was finishing on all trys. starting to dawn on me I really have no idea what I'm doing

might try mini-tweaker when I figure out how to create and load the tweak files of the sim and zon stuka for the game version I'm using. had a look at the stock JU87 sim and zon files that come with it--but it also did not give a choice to change the min speed setting (that possibly could be the hang up).

Anyone with any suggestions or comments to help point me in the right direction.

[ref]

You just need to remove all files except the dat; zon = damage , dsd = sound, sim = simulation (engines, rudders, etc), val = effects.
The only possible problem is with propellers, it's a good chance that you'll have to edit them in a 3d program.

Ref