Now I remember why I gave up on SHIII after it first came out

Samwolf · 11-18-06, 07:43 PM

I can't take this frustration anymore. Once again the "save game" bug has ruined this game for me.

I originally ran into it with stock Sh#, I hoped that the 1.4b patch would have fixed it but no luck. I gave up on it. After a while, I started pllying Rub when it came out but the bug hit me again and I gave up. GW came out and I thought I'd try it again.

A few days ago I ran into the "save game" bug, the one where after loading a saved game your sub immediately dives to crush depth and your career ends. Not too bad, go back about 6 hours of game time to the previous save and lose the 2 ships I took out in a convoy attack. This time I don't turn off the computer or exit the game since Thursday, I do the save and exit for this mission 8 times but I continue without exiting and just pause the game when I had to leave. So after "playing" for two days real time, I finally have to really "save and exit" . When I reload the last save game, I dive to the bottom, frustating but I'll just go back and load the previos one, another dive to the bottom, all eight saves dive my sub to the bottom. Only the "IN Port before mission" will load.

I know, bitch, bitch, bitch, but this takes 100% of the fun out of this game, it's just happened too many times in the past and it still keeps happening.

I don't save submerged, near any ships or land, I turn off the gramophone and have TC at 1, nothing seems to make a difference, once the saves start corrupting they just keep on doing it. I was able to play for about 2 months this time before the problem showed up. I reinstalled the game and it only took two days to show up this time. None of the "fixes" suggested here work for me.

Does anyone know if it's the save files that get corrupted when they're created or does the code that load the game get corrupted somehow?

I was so looking forward to GWX but this is just too much of a killer.

Sorry to rant here but I figure the other U-Boat Captains here would either be able to tell me how to prevent this or at least understand my frustration and "need" to vent. The wife just doesn't get it, "It's just a game" ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHH!

Syxx_Killer · 11-18-06, 07:57 PM

This is the first time I heard of this crush depth save bug. I have literally saved hundreds of times both above and below and have never run into this bug.

sh3rules · 11-18-06, 08:00 PM

I had to reinstall once because I couldn’t load any saved game. After reinstalling it never did it again. But I never experienced this bug.

Tuddley3 · 11-18-06, 08:08 PM

You may have to start that career over, sounds like something happened to your mid patrol file.

Did you add any mods while you were not in port, this makes weird things happen ?

stabiz · 11-18-06, 09:20 PM

Strange stuff, tuddley. :hmm: I have never - yes never - experienced any of the save bugs myself.

Samwolf · 11-18-06, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuddley3

You may have to start that career over, sounds like something happened to your mid patrol file.

Did you add any mods while you were not in port, this makes weird things happen ?

No, that's what makes it so frustrating. It seems that not all users experience this. Makes me wonder if it is system related somehow.

shegeek72 · 11-18-06, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Samwolf

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Originally Posted by Tuddley3

You may have to start that career over, sounds like something happened to your mid patrol file.

Did you add any mods while you were not in port, this makes weird things happen ?

No, that's what makes it so frustrating. It seems that not all users experience this. Makes me wonder if it is system related somehow.

I experienced something similar when I first got SH3, though not the sub crashing, just saved games not loading. I found when I didn't overwrite, but created a new save each time helped. But it went away completely when I installed GW.
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THE_MASK · 11-19-06, 12:01 AM

What are you saving the games as . For example i use the grid coordinates such as AD18 , AM21 etc . I never get the problems with the saves . If however i use say , words like CON(short for convoy) or convoy it will eventually break the game . If i have to save again in the same grid , say AM21 then i just overwrite with AM21 again . Never had a problem .

Faamecanic · 11-19-06, 12:12 AM

This is one bug I have NEVER had. And I save with no TC, no grammaphone on, and never around other ships. I DO save with grid names (AK38) and also AK38conv and such....

This game is very finiky with systems it seems. I have a strange graphics bug where if I use my attack or obs P-scope it turns off my Anti Aliasing (get jaggies BAD) on any external views, and also only HALF of my crew screen. If I use the UZO after any P-scope it turns my Anti Aliasing back on. See this if your curious as to what Im talking about... http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...223#2711043223

Wish I could help ya SAM...I know this has got to be frustrating

flyingdane · 11-19-06, 04:45 AM

I have played this game since it came out!..And all i can say is that i have never had this happen, (This is why) When I save" I just save game,
.. with name or number and..or overwrite".. then push "return to base, then main menu then...exit.

When i do it this way i don't get the save game bug!

P_Funk · 11-19-06, 05:45 AM

I never had these save issues. Though it has been finicky for no reason sometimes.

Its possible that this game has certain code errors that cause it to act funny in all kinds of random ways based on subtle system based characteristics, ones that aren't always realted to Mobo or CPU or particular hardware. Basically though whenever I've had issues with SH3 that cause this much grief I've reinstalled it.

You know maybe theres a corrupt file or two in the installer that buggers the install sometimes.

I don't know enough about computer coding to know if my conjecture is anywhere near realistic but certainly this isn't a simple issue.

I'd suggest a clean reinstall.

Venatore · 11-19-06, 05:52 AM

mate, never heard of this one before. I hope you find what the problem is soon. Hang in.

Safe-Keeper · 11-19-06, 06:35 AM

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I can't take this frustration anymore. Once again the "save game" bug has ruined this game for me.

So that's where that cursed copy of Silent Hunter III went:hmm:.

Never heard of this bug before. It's never happened to me after over a year of playing the game extensively and even modding it.

As was said, maybe it has to do with making changes while mid-patrol?

Samwolf · 11-19-06, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sober

What are you saving the games as . For example i use the grid coordinates such as AD18 , AM21 etc . I never get the problems with the saves . If however i use say , words like CON(short for convoy) or convoy it will eventually break the game . If i have to save again in the same grid , say AM21 then i just overwrite with AM21 again . Never had a problem .

I use 3 "save game" names but never overwrite.

Format is:
P#Intel
P#Save#
P#Sunk#

Where the first # is Patrol number and the second is the next sequential number within "sunk" or "save". I use save if nothing happened since the last save and sun to keep track of ships sunk.

So my save career looks like this

P1Intel
P1Save1
P1Sunk1
P1Sunk2
P1Save2
etc

What is really frustrating is that it doesn't always save corrupted So you never know when a file is bad. Like I said I played for a few months with no problem and then it shows up.

I'm testing a few things to see if I can track this down, so for now I've given up trying to play a career.

Samwolf · 11-19-06, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Faamecanic

This is one bug I have NEVER had. And I save with no TC, no grammaphone on, and never around other ships. I DO save with grid names (AK38) and also AK38conv and such....

This game is very finiky with systems it seems. I have a strange graphics bug where if I use my attack or obs P-scope it turns off my Anti Aliasing (get jaggies BAD) on any external views, and also only HALF of my crew screen. If I use the UZO after any P-scope it turns my Anti Aliasing back on. See this if your curious as to what Im talking about... http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...223#2711043223

Wish I could help ya SAM...I know this has got to be frustrating

Except for the "yellow crew" last mission and the invisible wacth crew with binocs, I haven't really run into graphics problems with this game, I have with other games, and I know that's frustrating too. Did you ever get it resolved?

11-18-06, 07:43 PM	#1
Samwolf Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: South Carolina, CSA Posts: 684 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Now I remember why I gave up on SHIII after it first came out I can't take this frustration anymore. Once again the "save game" bug has ruined this game for me. I originally ran into it with stock Sh#, I hoped that the 1.4b patch would have fixed it but no luck. I gave up on it. After a while, I started pllying Rub when it came out but the bug hit me again and I gave up. GW came out and I thought I'd try it again. A few days ago I ran into the "save game" bug, the one where after loading a saved game your sub immediately dives to crush depth and your career ends. Not too bad, go back about 6 hours of game time to the previous save and lose the 2 ships I took out in a convoy attack. This time I don't turn off the computer or exit the game since Thursday, I do the save and exit for this mission 8 times but I continue without exiting and just pause the game when I had to leave. So after "playing" for two days real time, I finally have to really "save and exit" . When I reload the last save game, I dive to the bottom, frustating but I'll just go back and load the previos one, another dive to the bottom, all eight saves dive my sub to the bottom. Only the "IN Port before mission" will load. I know, bitch, bitch, bitch, but this takes 100% of the fun out of this game, it's just happened too many times in the past and it still keeps happening. I don't save submerged, near any ships or land, I turn off the gramophone and have TC at 1, nothing seems to make a difference, once the saves start corrupting they just keep on doing it. I was able to play for about 2 months this time before the problem showed up. I reinstalled the game and it only took two days to show up this time. None of the "fixes" suggested here work for me. Does anyone know if it's the save files that get corrupted when they're created or does the code that load the game get corrupted somehow? I was so looking forward to GWX but this is just too much of a killer. Sorry to rant here but I figure the other U-Boat Captains here would either be able to tell me how to prevent this or at least understand my frustration and "need" to vent. The wife just doesn't get it, "It's just a game" ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHH! __________________ GWX 3, JSGME 2.3, Sh3 Commander 3.2 SH3 Gen 8.1, Water Stream for U-boats, LRT LITE 2.0, Lifeboats for SH3

11-18-06, 09:20 PM	#5
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Strange stuff, tuddley. :hmm: I have never - yes never - experienced any of the save bugs myself. __________________

11-19-06, 04:45 AM	#10
flyingdane Weps Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 355 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	I have played this game since it came out!..And all i can say is that i have never had this happen, (This is why) When I save" I just save game, .. with name or number and..or overwrite".. then push "return to base, then main menu then...exit. When i do it this way i don't get the save game bug! __________________ It denos't mtater waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it's olny iprmoatnt taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelms.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

11-19-06, 05:45 AM	#11
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	I never had these save issues. Though it has been finicky for no reason sometimes. Its possible that this game has certain code errors that cause it to act funny in all kinds of random ways based on subtle system based characteristics, ones that aren't always realted to Mobo or CPU or particular hardware. Basically though whenever I've had issues with SH3 that cause this much grief I've reinstalled it. You know maybe theres a corrupt file or two in the installer that buggers the install sometimes. I don't know enough about computer coding to know if my conjecture is anywhere near realistic but certainly this isn't a simple issue. I'd suggest a clean reinstall. __________________

11-18-06, 07:57 PM	#2
Syxx_Killer Admiral Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 2,387 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	This is the first time I heard of this crush depth save bug. I have literally saved hundreds of times both above and below and have never run into this bug.

11-18-06, 08:00 PM	#3
sh3rules Sonar Guy Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sailing the Seas of Lies Posts: 393 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I had to reinstall once because I couldn’t load any saved game. After reinstalling it never did it again. But I never experienced this bug.

11-18-06, 08:08 PM	#4
Tuddley3 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Augusta, Maine USA Posts: 905 Downloads: 170 Uploads: 0	You may have to start that career over, sounds like something happened to your mid patrol file. Did you add any mods while you were not in port, this makes weird things happen ?

11-19-06, 12:01 AM	#8
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	What are you saving the games as . For example i use the grid coordinates such as AD18 , AM21 etc . I never get the problems with the saves . If however i use say , words like CON(short for convoy) or convoy it will eventually break the game . If i have to save again in the same grid , say AM21 then i just overwrite with AM21 again . Never had a problem .

11-19-06, 12:12 AM	#9
Faamecanic Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Off your Stb side with good solution Posts: 1,065 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	This is one bug I have NEVER had. And I save with no TC, no grammaphone on, and never around other ships. I DO save with grid names (AK38) and also AK38conv and such.... This game is very finiky with systems it seems. I have a strange graphics bug where if I use my attack or obs P-scope it turns off my Anti Aliasing (get jaggies BAD) on any external views, and also only HALF of my crew screen. If I use the UZO after any P-scope it turns my Anti Aliasing back on. See this if your curious as to what Im talking about... http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...223#2711043223 Wish I could help ya SAM...I know this has got to be frustrating

11-19-06, 05:52 AM	#12
Venatore Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia:- Sydney Posts: 2,049 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	mate, never heard of this one before. I hope you find what the problem is soon. Hang in.