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Old 06-06-07, 02:37 AM   #16
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Hows about a good shot of the crews mess?
Look here: http://www.pbase.com/pixelpusher2/image/66500229
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Old 06-06-07, 04:25 AM   #17
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@ Gino,

agreed, the Devs did quite a nice job on this - but there's always room for improvement. Sadly, with absence of a SDK, modifications of 3D interiors / texture mapping are atm rather limited. For the moment i'm modifying SH4's 2D art, i.e. using higher res textures than default, to improve legibility and overall appearance.

Comparison of stock SH4 gauges (1024x1024):


and modified gauges i'm working on (2048x2048):



!any pointers concerning the gauges are highly appreciated!


The shots of the torpedo firing panel you kindly posted gave me some ideas for the 2D periscope overlay (WIP):
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Old 06-06-07, 04:27 PM   #18
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Old 06-06-07, 04:32 PM   #19
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I'd like to have some shots of officer's country.
Wardroom, officer's staterooms, goat locker, captain's cabin and yeoman shack.
I'm currently writing something like a novel (in german) and need to get a feeling of these rooms.
I could have visited USS Torsk when I was in Baltimore some years ago, but I didnt, damn...
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Old 06-06-07, 07:30 PM   #20
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Real shame you don't let people in the Con or higher, though. Adults, at least - I mean, I can see no kids (what they would do to the controls in USS Blueback out here sent shivers down my spine!)
Unfortunately, some adults behave like their kids...

There is also an insurance thingy. There is no direct supervision inside the conning tower. Thereofre the insurance company doesn't cover that area. If somebody would get hurt up there we'd have a huge financial problem.

BUT... we are working on a plan to let "special visitors" inside the conning tower. We MAY even have the TDC running for these visitors.
When that will happen I don't know. We first need to asses if anybody is willing to pay extra for a looooong guided tour... And it will probably be off-season (so the boat might be cold)

I'll keep the forum posted on this one.

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Old 06-06-07, 07:40 PM   #21
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Real shame you don't let people in the Con or higher, though. Adults, at least - I mean, I can see no kids (what they would do to the controls in USS Blueback out here sent shivers down my spine!)
Unfortunately, some adults behave like their kids...

There is also an insurance thingy. There is no direct supervision inside the conning tower. Thereofre the insurance company doesn't cover that area. If somebody would get hurt up there we'd have a huge financial problem.

BUT... we are working on a plan to let "special visitors" inside the conning tower. We MAY even have the TDC running for these visitors.
When that will happen I don't know. We first need to asses if anybody is willing to pay extra for a looooong guided tour... And it will probably be off-season (so the boat might be cold)

I'll keep the forum posted on this one.

groetjes,
If you get a chance, tell Bill Chaikin KA8VIT, that Bill Twist N2KMF says 'hi'. I've worked him a couple of times when he was on the boat doing the Museum Ships special event, and Submarines on the Air. We've also chatted on eham.com.

By the way, Museum Ships is this weekend:
http://users.tellurian.com/freddie/n...hip-event.html

Here is the list of subs that will be active:

USS Albacore Portsmouth, NH NM1JY
USS Cobia Manitowoc, Wisconsin N9BQV
USS Cod Cleveland, Ohio W8COD
USS Croaker Buffalo, NY WA2FKV
USS Drum Mobile, Alabama W4BPR
S637 Espadon Saint-Nazaire France F6KBG
USS Ling Hackensack, NJ NX2ND
USS Pampanito San Francisco, CA NJ6VT
USS Torsk Baltimore, MD NK3ST
U9 Speyer, Germany DK0SP
U-995 Laboe, Germany DL0DMB
Wilhelm Bauer (ex U-2540) Bremerhaven,Germany DL0MFK
HMS Nordkaparen Gothenburg, Sweden SL8SUB/P
ITN Enrico Dandolo Venice, Italy IQ3GA/3
Sub Isaac Peral Cartagena, Spain ED5URD
USS Requin SS481 Pennsylvania NY3EC
U-5075 Quincy, MA. WW2MAN
U480 (B143) Zeebrugge, Belgium ON8SUB
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Old 06-06-07, 08:02 PM   #22
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@ Gino,

agreed, the Devs did quite a nice job on this - but there's always room for improvement. Sadly, with absence of a SDK, modifications of 3D interiors / texture mapping are atm rather limited. For the moment i'm modifying SH4's 2D art, i.e. using higher res textures than default, to improve legibility and overall appearance.

!any pointers concerning the gauges are highly appreciated!


The shots of the torpedo firing panel you kindly posted gave me some ideas for the 2D periscope overlay (WIP):
Awesome job!

Looks impressive. Below some pictures that may give you some more detail. However, I had to scale these down. If you want one in higher resolution the pm me with your e-mail and I'll send the original to you.

Pitometer log


Sonar starboard projector


Sonar display opened red-filter


Trim meter


Compass repeater


Aux Ballast no2 meter


Compass repeater fwd torpedo room


see next post for more,

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Old 06-06-07, 08:25 PM   #23
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Depth Gauge


Dive station


And a rare beauty...
Cod's original Omnimeter (handmade..)



Now as far as the Torpedo fire control goes:

This is how it worked (apart from some details)

http://rapidshare.com/files/35674898...trols.pdf.html

This document is still WIP, because the drawings for the Conning Towewr Fire Control panel are not exactly matching those from Cod



But the text of the torpedo tube lights are almost correct. (1, 1-IN, 2, 2-IN etc.) The text is not vertical (1 above IN) but horizontal (1-IN)
The "Angle Set" light, "Gyro Spindle" light, and the "Ready" light are different on Cod.
These read "AS", "GSP" and "R"



Furthermore, there ate NO green lights on the Fire control panel in the conning tower. All are red when lit. So, I suggest that if you want to be close to historical, than the light is black when the tube is not available, and red when it is ready to fire...

Any questions or remarks sofar?

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Old 06-09-07, 05:31 PM   #24
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PPI for SJ&ST
Gino, in that picture above, are there any circular range rings or range rumbers on that display?
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Old 06-10-07, 12:33 AM   #25
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Absolutely brilliant thread this. THANKS! GINO!!!!!
Modders heaven!

@OakGroove, Really looking forward to your new stuff man!!!
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Old 06-10-07, 06:30 AM   #26
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Maybe this is impossible but is there anyway to get some sort of image from the periscope and observation periscope graphics (overlay) I guess its to dark and hard to shoot...
Anyway @ Gino HELL OF A GOOD JOB THERE MAN!!!!!
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Old 06-10-07, 12:42 PM   #27
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PPI for SJ&ST
Gino, in that picture above, are there any circular range rings or range rumbers on that display?
Eh, no...

The range was displayed on the Range unit.



The range unit as show below has a display which read the range.


Also see http://www.hnsa.org/doc/radar/part4.htm#pgSJ-1
There you can find (you may have to scroll down a bit) how the SJ was operated. The bearing indicator and the Range unit gave the precise information-whereas the PPI and the Range indicator unit were used to get the correct results.

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Old 06-10-07, 01:04 PM   #28
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Maybe this is impossible but is there anyway to get some sort of image from the periscope and observation periscope graphics (overlay) I guess its to dark and hard to shoot...
Anyway @ Gino HELL OF A GOOD JOB THERE MAN!!!!!
Thanks for the kind words.

I only have tried to make a picture once through Cods attack periscope.
It's presented here.



It is just like the image below (from the Submarine Fire Control Manual)


So, nothing 'fancy'

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Brilliant Cheers man!

May i ask, do you live close to the "COD" or?
And is it "claustrophobic" inside. Only been in a sub twice, but it was an old diesel boat from 1967 (U9) ...German, and much smaller then the Fleet Boats (43m or so and super cramped)
http://www.museumspeyer.de/000040FE6...7A68_0001.html
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Old 06-10-07, 02:30 PM   #30
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Real shame you don't let people in the Con or higher, though. Adults, at least - I mean, I can see no kids (what they would do to the controls in USS Blueback out here sent shivers down my spine!)
Unfortunately, some adults behave like their kids...

There is also an insurance thingy. There is no direct supervision inside the conning tower. Thereofre the insurance company doesn't cover that area. If somebody would get hurt up there we'd have a huge financial problem.

BUT... we are working on a plan to let "special visitors" inside the conning tower. We MAY even have the TDC running for these visitors.
When that will happen I don't know. We first need to asses if anybody is willing to pay extra for a looooong guided tour... And it will probably be off-season (so the boat might be cold)

I'll keep the forum posted on this one.

groetjes,
If you get a chance, tell Bill Chaikin KA8VIT, that Bill Twist N2KMF says 'hi'. I've worked him a couple of times when he was on the boat doing the Museum Ships special event, and Submarines on the Air. We've also chatted on eham.com.

By the way, Museum Ships is this weekend:
http://users.tellurian.com/freddie/n...hip-event.html

Here is the list of subs that will be active:

USS Albacore Portsmouth, NH NM1JY
USS Cobia Manitowoc, Wisconsin N9BQV
USS Cod Cleveland, Ohio W8COD
USS Croaker Buffalo, NY WA2FKV
USS Drum Mobile, Alabama W4BPR
S637 Espadon Saint-Nazaire France F6KBG
USS Ling Hackensack, NJ NX2ND
USS Pampanito San Francisco, CA NJ6VT
USS Torsk Baltimore, MD NK3ST
U9 Speyer, Germany DK0SP
U-995 Laboe, Germany DL0DMB
Wilhelm Bauer (ex U-2540) Bremerhaven,Germany DL0MFK
HMS Nordkaparen Gothenburg, Sweden SL8SUB/P
ITN Enrico Dandolo Venice, Italy IQ3GA/3
Sub Isaac Peral Cartagena, Spain ED5URD
USS Requin SS481 Pennsylvania NY3EC
U-5075 Quincy, MA. WW2MAN
U480 (B143) Zeebrugge, Belgium ON8SUB

The USS Torsk is my sub. I volunteer there to restore. The conning tower is closed to visitors. Just to cramped and not part of the tour. Since I'm a volunteer, I get free run of the sub. The conning tower has the original WW2 attack scope and post WW2 observation scope. Besides, there are so many switches, etc. no need to have visitors up there swipping things.....and they do
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