SHCE Scenario Editor?

MarkShot · 02-01-08, 10:53 PM

I was looking around in the SHCE scenario editor today.

What does the RANDOMIZE option do for a scenario? It is not documented in the editor PDF guide which comes with the game. Nor do I find it mentioned in the release notes for version 1.31.

Thanks.

ChristopherT · 02-02-08, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkShot

I was looking around in the SHCE scenario editor today.

What does the RANDOMIZE option do for a scenario? It is not documented in the editor PDF guide which comes with the game. Nor do I find it mentioned in the release notes for version 1.31.

Thanks.

That's a good question! With the number of scenarios he created, Jeff Johnson would probably be able to answer that. I'm wondering if it randomizes those variables like ship speeds, time of day, weather, sea state, etc. Just enough to stay within the bounds of the enviroment settings, but enough so every replay of a scenario is not a carbon copy of itself. On mine its already turned on.

Christopher

MarkShot · 02-02-08, 05:08 PM

I mainly play the campaign mode although I do have 400 custom scenarios for the game.

However, I was bored the other night and was just stepping through it. That was the only feature not covered in the docs. So, it must have been added fairly late.

Actually, it is a nice little scenario editor. I like it. The only thing that is a bit irritating is that the editor tool box is so big that it obscures 50% of the map!

ChristopherT · 02-02-08, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkShot

I mainly play the campaign mode although I do have 400 custom scenarios for the game.

However, I was bored the other night and was just stepping through it. That was the only feature not covered in the docs. So, it must have been added fairly late.

Actually, it is a nice little scenario editor. I like it. The only thing that is a bit irritating is that the editor tool box is so big that it obscures 50% of the map!

What would have been neat is random start points and multiple paths like Harpoon Classic had. We lost the AN/APR-1A radar detector too. It's mentioned in the docs and the scenario editor but you never get it. As as my research dug up, it was a sub-unit of the SJ radar. It would've been on the radar panel if they finished it.

Christopher

bishop · 02-04-08, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkShot

However, I was bored the other night and was just stepping through it. That was the only feature not covered in the docs. So, it must have been added fairly late.

In the Commanders Edition Data Book, it's on page 21 under Scenario Ending Options:

"Scenarios can be set to end when the submarine breaks contact with all remaining Japanese ships or at a random time. If both these settings are active, breaking contact has precedence, although you are prompted to end or continue the scenario if you wish"

MarkShot · 02-04-08, 07:49 PM

Thanks.

ChristopherT · 02-05-08, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bishop

In the Commanders Edition Data Book, it's on page 21 under Scenario Ending Options:

Thanks, Bishop! I'm sure I missed that completely!

Christopher

Palindromeria · 02-08-08, 08:16 PM

sadly ive never figured out the install procedure.
it gives me a headache just reading it. ..

the editor in this game was wonderful.
i especially like the ram usage meter.
you could really see the ins and outs of what was going to be too much strain.
and since these same "strain" issues show themselves in sh2 dc dw
i considered it wisdom well learned.

the ability to specify torpedo types loaded and reloads remaining also rocked

i recall writing a namkwan mission where i gave barb her precise torp load at time of event. not surprisingly the mission tactics and results were pretty much always in line with reality. was way too cool !

MarkShot · 02-08-08, 09:21 PM

The WWII subsims play much better than SC/DW scenarios. SC/DW engine is a fine engine, but alas the scenario editors were too powerful for their own good in these games. You can script any type of behavior/objective so it was rarely clear and simple to the player what he was supposed to do. As such SC/DW scenarios often end up being riddles and puzzles. A real shame. The SHCE scenario editor was very easy to use and well done.

nikimcbee · 08-14-08, 02:24 AM

I thought it randomized whether a ship would be in a scenario.

02-01-08, 10:53 PM	#1
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	SHCE Scenario Editor? I was looking around in the SHCE scenario editor today. What does the RANDOMIZE option do for a scenario? It is not documented in the editor PDF guide which comes with the game. Nor do I find it mentioned in the release notes for version 1.31. Thanks. __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

02-02-08, 05:08 PM	#3
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	I mainly play the campaign mode although I do have 400 custom scenarios for the game. However, I was bored the other night and was just stepping through it. That was the only feature not covered in the docs. So, it must have been added fairly late. Actually, it is a nice little scenario editor. I like it. The only thing that is a bit irritating is that the editor tool box is so big that it obscures 50% of the map! __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

02-04-08, 07:49 PM	#6
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	Thanks. __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

02-08-08, 09:21 PM	#9
MarkShot Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,134 Downloads: 93 Uploads: 0	The WWII subsims play much better than SC/DW scenarios. SC/DW engine is a fine engine, but alas the scenario editors were too powerful for their own good in these games. You can script any type of behavior/objective so it was rarely clear and simple to the player what he was supposed to do. As such SC/DW scenarios often end up being riddles and puzzles. A real shame. The SHCE scenario editor was very easy to use and well done. __________________ War games, not wars! --- Only a small few profit from war (that should not stand)!

08-14-08, 02:24 AM	#10
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,925 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I thought it randomized whether a ship would be in a scenario. __________________

02-08-08, 08:16 PM	#8
Palindromeria Planesman Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 199 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	sadly ive never figured out the install procedure. it gives me a headache just reading it. .. the editor in this game was wonderful. i especially like the ram usage meter. you could really see the ins and outs of what was going to be too much strain. and since these same "strain" issues show themselves in sh2 dc dw i considered it wisdom well learned. the ability to specify torpedo types loaded and reloads remaining also rocked i recall writing a namkwan mission where i gave barb her precise torp load at time of event. not surprisingly the mission tactics and results were pretty much always in line with reality. was way too cool !