Indonesian submarine gone amiss

Skybird · 04-21-21, 08:53 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56829278

The boat is German-made (probably a type 209) and 43 years old. It underwent an overhaul in Germany end of the 80s, and a 2 year refit in South Korea ten years ago. Its one of five submarines Indonesia is operating.

Jimbuna · 04-21-21, 12:40 PM

Hopefully they will be found and in an area a rescue may be undertaken.

Moonlight · 04-21-21, 05:03 PM

^There's not a chance of finding them alive and they'll be extremely lucky to find the sub in shallow water within a week or a month never mind that deeper water it reportedly disappeared in.

Kapitan · 04-21-21, 05:37 PM

Looking at everything that is coming out I'm hearing the boat is down in 700 to 800m deep waters and well if she is down in one piece the only way she is making that depth is if she flooded first.

Personally and I know I sound like an ass in saying this but i hope the above is not the case and the boat was crushed simply because it would be quick and painless.

But I hope I am totally wrong on both counts

Buddahaid · 04-21-21, 11:19 PM

BBC isn't updating which isn't encouraging.

Kapitan · 04-21-21, 11:26 PM

The boat went out with 56 men she normally carries 30-36 she has been down for now nearly 2 days

The air in that boat is going to be running out fast

Jimbuna · 04-22-21, 06:54 AM

A few hours ago the BBC news on tv estimated they had 72 hours worth of air remaining.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56829278

Catfish · 04-22-21, 07:16 AM

I read it does not have an emergency docking adapter, also it may be too deep to use any emergency equipment. Looks bad.

Kapitan · 04-22-21, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

A few hours ago the BBC news on tv estimated they had 72 hours worth of air remaining.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56829278

Likely under ideal situation where the air may not be contaminated, but also the 209 while it can stay down for a considerable time 72 hours for me is a bit hopeful at best.

Quote:

I read it does not have an emergency docking adapter, also it may be too deep to use any emergency equipment. Looks bad.

Doesn't need an adapter its the rescue vessel that needs the skirt if its going to dock, and that's something LR5 will most certainly have.

The boat is west German designed so its up to NATO standard for sure, even the Russian hatches can work with Western DSRV's (and have)

My fear is if she is down in 700m of water and in one piece that to me says it all, she is flooded right through, the 209 I don't believe could survive that depth intact.

Skybird · 04-24-21, 04:37 AM

Their navy says debris found near an oil slick at the sub'S last known position was formed by items form inside the boat that could not have reached to the outside without either huge pressure damage to the hull or damage at the torpedo launchers.

I slowly start to cautiously assume that the boat has imploded very early in the "event". Maybe the implosion was the event.

At least no slow miserable death.

Jimbuna · 04-24-21, 04:38 AM

Yeah, most likely

Onkel Neal · 04-24-21, 08:28 AM

https://interestingengineering.com/m...ne-feared-lost

Jimbuna · 04-24-21, 10:09 AM

BBC link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56871694

Mr Quatro · 04-24-21, 10:29 AM

The German-built diesel-powered KRI Nanggala 402 had been in service in Indonesia since 1981

Forty years of service? Fear of lasting this long should've been the case scenario

The boat is presumed lost with all on board ... RIP

mapuc · 04-24-21, 10:44 AM

No military personal should lose their life in peacetime.

R.I.P

Markus

04-21-21, 08:53 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 41,489 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Indonesian submarine gone amiss https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56829278 The boat is German-made (probably a type 209) and 43 years old. It underwent an overhaul in Germany end of the 80s, and a 2 year refit in South Korea ten years ago. Its one of five submarines Indonesia is operating. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Moonlight Admiral Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,390 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	^There's not a chance of finding them alive and they'll be extremely lucky to find the sub in shallow water within a week or a month never mind that deeper water it reportedly disappeared in. __________________

04-21-21, 05:37 PM	#4
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,113 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 7	Looking at everything that is coming out I'm hearing the boat is down in 700 to 800m deep waters and well if she is down in one piece the only way she is making that depth is if she flooded first. Personally and I know I sound like an ass in saying this but i hope the above is not the case and the boat was crushed simply because it would be quick and painless. But I hope I am totally wrong on both counts __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

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Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,113 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 7	The boat went out with 56 men she normally carries 30-36 she has been down for now nearly 2 days The air in that boat is going to be running out fast __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 185,355 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	A few hours ago the BBC news on tv estimated they had 72 hours worth of air remaining. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56829278 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 41,489 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Their navy says debris found near an oil slick at the sub'S last known position was formed by items form inside the boat that could not have reached to the outside without either huge pressure damage to the hull or damage at the torpedo launchers. I slowly start to cautiously assume that the boat has imploded very early in the "event". Maybe the implosion was the event. At least no slow miserable death. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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