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Old 02-21-10, 07:56 AM   #1
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Does anybody know if thermal layers will be simulated in SH5. Will the Artic Campaign be included as its here that the thermal layer will be useful.
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Old 02-21-10, 08:15 AM   #2
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Does anybody know if thermal layers will be simulated in SH5. Will the Artic Campaign be included as its here that the thermal layer will be useful.
One of the videos shows 'passing thermal layer' reported by the crew.
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Old 02-21-10, 08:18 AM   #3
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One of the videos shows 'passing thermal layer' reported by the crew.
I'm not sure if U-boats were even equipped with bathythermographs, so I don't know how he's managing to give that report. Anybody want to correct me if I'm wrong?
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Old 02-21-10, 08:27 AM   #4
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I'm not sure if U-boats were even equipped with bathythermographs, so I don't know how he's managing to give that report. Anybody want to correct me if I'm wrong?
Yes, this is debatable if they had bathythermographs.

Since the voice used to report thermal layer is exactly the same like in SH4, it is logical to assume they still have some features 'left over' from previous title in the beta/preview version. What we will have in the final version is yet to be seen.
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Old 02-21-10, 08:33 AM   #5
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I'm not sure if U-boats were even equipped with bathythermographs, so I don't know how he's managing to give that report. Anybody want to correct me if I'm wrong?
You're correct, the German U-boats had no bathythermographs. They knew that these layers existed, but could not determine whether there is a termal layer in a given depth or if the boat is below or above a thermal layer.
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Was it of practical importance back then?
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Was it of practical importance back then?
A sonar ping bounches off from a thermal layer, so I may say yes it was of practical importance.

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More often I imagine a sonar ping would just refract a ping below the IOR and give a false reading of the sub's location.
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I believe the U-boats only tested the salinity of the water from samples which was time consuming and nowhere near as prompt as having a bathythermograph.
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One of the videos shows 'passing thermal layer' reported by the crew.
Yea while they were at periscope depth
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I believe the U-boats only tested the salinity of the water from samples which was time consuming and nowhere near as prompt as having a bathythermograph.
I often wondered if a 'good' soundman (Level 4 ) might be able to 'hear' the sound shifts and volume and make a guess at having passed a thermal layer.
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I often wondered if a 'good' soundman (Level 4 ) might be able to 'hear' the sound shifts and volume and make a guess at having passed a thermal layer.
That would be tough.
It's not like you go down a thermal layer and everything always
becomes quieter.
A thermal layer will produce depths at which other ships are louder too.
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I often wondered if a 'good' soundman (Level 4 ) might be able to 'hear' the sound shifts and volume and make a guess at having passed a thermal layer.
I'm confident the apparatus wasn't that good or accurate then....even with superman at the controls
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I'm confident the apparatus wasn't that good or accurate then....even with superman at the controls
I heard that with chef's rats ear soup Level 4 adds an uber buff to your listen and spot skillz +4 !
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I often wondered if a 'good' soundman (Level 4 ) might be able to 'hear' the sound shifts and volume and make a guess at having passed a thermal layer.
I wondered the same thing. It's logical. Thanks for posting that and getting an answer.
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