Just discovered Hearts of Iron...

Red October1984 · 01-21-13, 12:35 AM

I LOVE THIS!!!! I got the HoI3 demo and have been playing it. I'm going to get the HoI3 Collection sometime within the next while. Hearts of Iron 2 also looks good. I like that it can go from 1933 to 1964 with expansions. I might get that too. There's a pack on amazon that has HoI2+Expansions with HoI1 for a lot less.

Should I go for the HoI 1-2 pack or pay another 10$ for HoI3 Collection?

Krauter · 01-21-13, 01:37 AM

Depends, if you want to do extremely long campaigns (past 1948) you can tweak HOI2. To my knowledge this isnt feasible in HOI3 though I might be wrong.

However, with the mods and DLC available (Their Finest Hour, Dies Irae Gotterdamerung, Stars & Stripes, etc), as well as a more customized experience with brigade building, On top of that, you've got the multiplayer aspect of HOI3 which is also nice.

All in all, HOI3 is a very viable buy. As I've no experience HOI I can't exactly comment. If you really really want to run the HOI2 engine, I'd actually recommend arsenal of democracy and darkest hour or something along those lines, I can't really remember the name atm sorry.

If you've got any questions I'd be happy to answer them or offer advice. Have fun!

Red October1984 · 01-21-13, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

Depends, if you want to do extremely long campaigns (past 1948) you can tweak HOI2. To my knowledge this isnt feasible in HOI3 though I might be wrong.

However, with the mods and DLC available (Their Finest Hour, Dies Irae Gotterdamerung, Stars & Stripes, etc), as well as a more customized experience with brigade building, On top of that, you've got the multiplayer aspect of HOI3 which is also nice.

All in all, HOI3 is a very viable buy. As I've no experience HOI I can't exactly comment. If you really really want to run the HOI2 engine, I'd actually recommend arsenal of democracy and darkest hour or something along those lines, I can't really remember the name atm sorry.

If you've got any questions I'd be happy to answer them or offer advice. Have fun!

I would love to do those long campaigns that start in '33 and end in '64. I think I'm going to get the first two in the pack for less and get the HoI3 Collection later. I have the HoI3 demo atm and I haven't finished 2 weeks of game time. It's hard to believe that there exists a game so complex. It's better to start at the bottom and work your way up I think. I'm sure that once I get HoI1, 2 or 3, I'll have loads of questions for you.

Right now, I'd be happy with General Hints/Strategies/Tactics/Help for starting as Germany on Sept. 1st, 1939.

Raptor1 · 01-21-13, 04:49 AM

Hearts of Iron 2's more extended timeline (which is 1936-1964, BTW) isn't really that meaningful. There are a handful of more technologies for the post-war time period, but there aren't any real events and it's mostly there for the surviving alliances to have a chance to try to kill each other after they've won the war. Also, you can quite easily extend Hearts of Iron 3's timeline with some simple modding; I haven't checked, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are mods released that do that as well as add more post-war technologies and events.

If you're looking for a real post-WWII game then East vs. West is supposed to come out this year and looks fairly awesome.

In any case, if you want Hearts of Iron 2 I'd skip the original game altogether in favour of getting Darkest Hour (well, or Arsenal of Democracy, but I haven't played that), as it is in many ways better, should be compatible with most mods and even has a World War I scenario. Also, it's only something like $10 on Steam and GamersGate.

haz · 01-21-13, 05:14 AM

Darkest hour is a good game but am waiting for non-beta patch to be released which will fix and add to the game,

Krabb · 01-21-13, 06:03 AM

Regarding hints, strategies, etc. look in Paradoxian wiki and AARs at Paradox forums.

Hottentot · 01-21-13, 07:24 AM

LOL Fat Amids r OP patch is stoopid Pdox is secrt mooselimp luver nerf or do sumfink zomgcopter!!!!111one

Oops, sorry, wrong game.

Out of curiosity, does HoI series also have some favorite hated nation that makes people rage quit and come foaming to the forums demanding instant gratification?

Krauter · 01-21-13, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot

LOL Fat Amids r OP patch is stoopid Pdox is secrt mooselimp luver nerf or do sumfink zomgcopter!!!!111one

Oops, sorry, wrong game.

Out of curiosity, does HoI series also have some favorite hated nation that makes people rage quit and come foaming to the forums demanding instant gratification?

Not that I know of. Mostly if you play a minor expect to get your butt handed to you. The game is balanced for majors only IMO.

Also, in regards to "Cold War' game time, it really isn't worth it as Raptor mentioned. The techs, events and scripts dont extend past 1945 thus the only option left is to just throw everything at each other. Not my cup of tea after having played 9 years of war and diplomacy...

Personally HOI3 is the best game in my opinion. It takes care of a lot of HOI2s downfalls and with mods and DLCs isnt as buggy as on release.

Red October1984 · 01-21-13, 04:32 PM

Hearts of Iron 3....WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL MY LIFE!!!!!

I'm just loving this demo...(If you couldn't tell already)

Krauter · 01-21-13, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Red October1984

Hearts of Iron 3....WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL MY LIFE!!!!!

I'm just loving this demo...(If you couldn't tell already)

Can't go wrong with the full game + DLC

01-21-13, 12:35 AM	#1
Red October1984 Airplane Nerd Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6,241 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Just discovered Hearts of Iron... I LOVE THIS!!!! I got the HoI3 demo and have been playing it. I'm going to get the HoI3 Collection sometime within the next while. Hearts of Iron 2 also looks good. I like that it can go from 1933 to 1964 with expansions. I might get that too. There's a pack on amazon that has HoI2+Expansions with HoI1 for a lot less. Should I go for the HoI 1-2 pack or pay another 10$ for HoI3 Collection? __________________

01-21-13, 04:49 AM	#4
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Hearts of Iron 2's more extended timeline (which is 1936-1964, BTW) isn't really that meaningful. There are a handful of more technologies for the post-war time period, but there aren't any real events and it's mostly there for the surviving alliances to have a chance to try to kill each other after they've won the war. Also, you can quite easily extend Hearts of Iron 3's timeline with some simple modding; I haven't checked, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are mods released that do that as well as add more post-war technologies and events. If you're looking for a real post-WWII game then East vs. West is supposed to come out this year and looks fairly awesome. In any case, if you want Hearts of Iron 2 I'd skip the original game altogether in favour of getting Darkest Hour (well, or Arsenal of Democracy, but I haven't played that), as it is in many ways better, should be compatible with most mods and even has a World War I scenario. Also, it's only something like $10 on Steam and GamersGate. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

01-21-13, 07:24 AM	#7
Hottentot Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My private socialist utopia of Finland Posts: 1,918 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	LOL Fat Amids r OP patch is stoopid Pdox is secrt mooselimp luver nerf or do sumfink zomgcopter!!!!111one Oops, sorry, wrong game. Out of curiosity, does HoI series also have some favorite hated nation that makes people rage quit and come foaming to the forums demanding instant gratification? __________________ Хотели как лучше, а получилось как всегда.

01-21-13, 04:32 PM	#9
Red October1984 Airplane Nerd Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6,241 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Hearts of Iron 3....WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL MY LIFE!!!!! I'm just loving this demo...(If you couldn't tell already) __________________

01-21-13, 05:14 AM	#5
haz A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: South Dakota Posts: 72 Downloads: 1401 Uploads: 0	Darkest hour is a good game but am waiting for non-beta patch to be released which will fix and add to the game,

01-21-13, 06:03 AM	#6
Krabb Navy Dude Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 172 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Regarding hints, strategies, etc. look in Paradoxian wiki and AARs at Paradox forums.