Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2 - Page 243

Otto Harkaman · 06-03-24, 05:01 PM

Is there any news evidence that the US has authorized Ukrainian in using HIMARS, ATACMS and similar against Russian targets inside Russia? (Asking AI:chatgpt4)

Recent news indicates that the United States has not authorized Ukraine to use HIMARS, ATACMS, or similar weapons to strike deep into Russian territory. While the U.S. has provided Ukraine with advanced weaponry such as HIMARS and ATACMS, the authorization for their use is restricted to within Ukrainian borders or areas immediately involved in the conflict. This policy aims to avoid escalating the conflict by preventing strikes deep within Russian territory (Yahoo) (IISS).

The U.S. has permitted the use of HIMARS and GMLRS (Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System) to target Russian positions that directly threaten Ukrainian territory, particularly in regions like Kharkiv Oblast (Yahoo).

However, long-range ATACMS missiles are not included in this authorization and are intended for use within Ukraine's sovereign territory only (Euromaidan Press).

There have been reports of ATACMS being used by Ukraine, but these instances are within the context of their current conflict zones and not for strikes deep into Russian territory (Military.com).

This approach aligns with the U.S. strategy of supporting Ukraine's defense while minimizing the risk of a broader escalation involving NATO and Russia.

Otto Harkaman · 06-03-24, 05:16 PM

Is there any reliable evidence who destroyed the Nord Stream pipeline? (Asking AI:chatgpt4)

The Nord Stream pipeline explosions in September 2022 remain a mystery, with multiple investigations yielding limited conclusive evidence. Germany, Sweden, and Denmark launched probes into the incident, which involved undersea explosions that damaged the pipelines designed to transport Russian natural gas to Germany.

Sweden recently dropped its investigation, citing a lack of jurisdiction as the blasts did not involve Swedish interests directly. Swedish prosecutors had found traces of explosives at the site but could not identify a culprit. Meanwhile, Germany continues its investigation, with reports indicating that explosives used in the sabotage might have been transported via a yacht (DW) (POLITICO).

Several theories about the responsible party have surfaced, but no definitive evidence has been presented. Some reports suggest a pro-Ukrainian group might be involved, although Ukrainian officials, including President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, have denied any responsibility. Russia has also been implicated by some, but the Kremlin has denied involvement, instead blaming the UK, a claim dismissed by British authorities (DW) (POLITICO).

The case remains unresolved, with ongoing investigations in Germany and Denmark attempting to uncover more details about the perpetrators and their motives.

mapuc · 06-03-24, 05:18 PM

^^ Thank you

"and are intended for use within Ukraine's sovereign territory only"

Then I have heard correct. US have given Ukraine green light in using ATACMS on Ukrainian territory.

Markus

Skybird · 06-03-24, 05:21 PM

^ It was reported that the US authorized the use of Himars and artillery at Russian targets near Charkiv and for the purpose of militarily defend Charkiv. ATACAMS have not been allowed. Attacking outside this Charkiv-reach defence zone with anything US-made has NOT been allowed.

The smallprint gets longer and longer.

Maybe US government should hand over the strategy-tuning to the lawyers.

Oh, wait. There is nothing like a "strategy". That's why...

Skybird · 06-03-24, 05:29 PM

Col. Reisner, 3rd of May 2024:

https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/...en&_x_tr_hl=de

Skybird · 06-04-24, 02:14 PM

The German defebnc eninstry recently beefed up an existing treaty with the industry to now peroduce up to 200,000 shells 155mm for the PZH2000.

200,000.

Well.

After over two years of war.

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/...en&_x_tr_hl=de

I would claim that German politicians still have not understood what "Zeitenwende" really means.

mapuc · 06-04-24, 02:33 PM

Over 1200 Russian causalities-Doesn't matter they have won some meters land.

Markus

06-03-24, 05:01 PM	#3631
Otto Harkaman Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 929 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Is there any news evidence that the US has authorized Ukrainian in using HIMARS, ATACMS and similar against Russian targets inside Russia? (Asking AI:chatgpt4) Recent news indicates that the United States has not authorized Ukraine to use HIMARS, ATACMS, or similar weapons to strike deep into Russian territory. While the U.S. has provided Ukraine with advanced weaponry such as HIMARS and ATACMS, the authorization for their use is restricted to within Ukrainian borders or areas immediately involved in the conflict. This policy aims to avoid escalating the conflict by preventing strikes deep within Russian territory (Yahoo) (IISS). The U.S. has permitted the use of HIMARS and GMLRS (Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System) to target Russian positions that directly threaten Ukrainian territory, particularly in regions like Kharkiv Oblast (Yahoo). However, long-range ATACMS missiles are not included in this authorization and are intended for use within Ukraine's sovereign territory only (Euromaidan Press). There have been reports of ATACMS being used by Ukraine, but these instances are within the context of their current conflict zones and not for strikes deep into Russian territory (Military.com). This approach aligns with the U.S. strategy of supporting Ukraine's defense while minimizing the risk of a broader escalation involving NATO and Russia. __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm Last edited by Otto Harkaman; 06-04-24 at 04:31 AM.

06-03-24, 05:16 PM	#3632
Otto Harkaman Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 929 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Is there any reliable evidence who destroyed the Nord Stream pipeline? (Asking AI:chatgpt4) The Nord Stream pipeline explosions in September 2022 remain a mystery, with multiple investigations yielding limited conclusive evidence. Germany, Sweden, and Denmark launched probes into the incident, which involved undersea explosions that damaged the pipelines designed to transport Russian natural gas to Germany. Sweden recently dropped its investigation, citing a lack of jurisdiction as the blasts did not involve Swedish interests directly. Swedish prosecutors had found traces of explosives at the site but could not identify a culprit. Meanwhile, Germany continues its investigation, with reports indicating that explosives used in the sabotage might have been transported via a yacht (DW) (POLITICO). Several theories about the responsible party have surfaced, but no definitive evidence has been presented. Some reports suggest a pro-Ukrainian group might be involved, although Ukrainian officials, including President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, have denied any responsibility. Russia has also been implicated by some, but the Kremlin has denied involvement, instead blaming the UK, a claim dismissed by British authorities (DW) (POLITICO). The case remains unresolved, with ongoing investigations in Germany and Denmark attempting to uncover more details about the perpetrators and their motives. __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm Last edited by Otto Harkaman; 06-04-24 at 04:30 AM.

06-03-24, 05:18 PM	#3633
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 18,145 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	^^ Thank you "and are intended for use within Ukraine's sovereign territory only" Then I have heard correct. US have given Ukraine green light in using ATACMS on Ukrainian territory. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

06-03-24, 05:21 PM	#3634
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,664 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	^ It was reported that the US authorized the use of Himars and artillery at Russian targets near Charkiv and for the purpose of militarily defend Charkiv. ATACAMS have not been allowed. Attacking outside this Charkiv-reach defence zone with anything US-made has NOT been allowed. The smallprint gets longer and longer. Maybe US government should hand over the strategy-tuning to the lawyers. Oh, wait. There is nothing like a "strategy". That's why... __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-03-24, 05:29 PM	#3635
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,664 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Col. Reisner, 3rd of May 2024: https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/...en&_x_tr_hl=de __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-04-24, 02:14 PM	#3636
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,664 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The German defebnc eninstry recently beefed up an existing treaty with the industry to now peroduce up to 200,000 shells 155mm for the PZH2000. 200,000. Well. After over two years of war. https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/...en&_x_tr_hl=de I would claim that German politicians still have not understood what "Zeitenwende" really means. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-04-24, 02:33 PM	#3637
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 18,145 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Over 1200 Russian causalities-Doesn't matter they have won some meters land. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat