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Stiebler · 07-07-11, 05:35 AM

@H.sie, NGT:

I have now completed a full career (1939-1945) with NYGM 3.5 and H.sie's V15G1.

There were no issues, apart from the argument concerning oxygen supply, so H.sie has completed a brilliant job again!

I have constructed a new Options Selector (version 1.4) with two slider controls which enables the rate of use of the renewable and non-renewable (compressed oxygen) components to be varied from their defaults (1.0 and 1.0 respectively).

I have found that it is possible to set values which seem to be acceptable for NYGM, namely:
Renewable oxygen: setting = 2.5
Non-renewable oxygen: setting = 2.0

These are values that I obtained for submerged travel:
U-boat Renewable (hours) Non-renewable (hours**)
IIa .... 14 1/2.................. 38
VIIC .. 16 3/4 ................. 46
VIIC/41 - same as VIIC
IXC .... 19 3/4 ................ 58
IXD2 - similar to IXC

[EDIT: ** Hours to 50% usage on scale. Double values for total consumption - Sorry about that.]
How does this work out in practice, using the new values I mentioned above?

NYGM models the high density of air attacks in the Bay of Biscay, north-west of Spain after May 1943, fairly accurately.
If you sail a VIIC from St Nazaire out into the Atlantic in July 1943, sailing as close as possible to the north Spanish coast during the way out, then the U-boat has almost half-empty compressed air by the time it reaches square CF. This result is obtained simply by ensuring that the U-boat surfaces only during darkness, and never during daylight.
And it still needs to return through the Bay of Biscay!

Therefore, I consider these to be settings that are the minimum acceptable under the worst conditions of the war.

And therefore, it is not necessary for H.sie to re-introduce the oxygen supply of V15E as well as that of V15G1. I can accept the existing V15G1 with revised optional (slider) settings.

@NGT: perhaps you would like to carry out the same operation (sail a VIIC boat through the Bay of Biscay in July 1943 using NYGM 3.5), but with the default settings for oxygen supply, ie those currently in V15G1. It will help you to understand the problem of the default settings.

Stiebler.

07-07-11, 05:35 AM	#1821
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	@H.sie, NGT: I have now completed a full career (1939-1945) with NYGM 3.5 and H.sie's V15G1. There were no issues, apart from the argument concerning oxygen supply, so H.sie has completed a brilliant job again! I have constructed a new Options Selector (version 1.4) with two slider controls which enables the rate of use of the renewable and non-renewable (compressed oxygen) components to be varied from their defaults (1.0 and 1.0 respectively). I have found that it is possible to set values which seem to be acceptable for NYGM, namely: Renewable oxygen: setting = 2.5 Non-renewable oxygen: setting = 2.0 These are values that I obtained for submerged travel: U-boat Renewable (hours) Non-renewable (hours) IIa .... 14 1/2.................. 38 VIIC .. 16 3/4 ................. 46 VIIC/41 - same as VIIC IXC .... 19 3/4 ................ 58 IXD2 - similar to IXC [EDIT: Hours to 50% usage on scale. Double values for total consumption - Sorry about that.] How does this work out in practice, using the new values I mentioned above? NYGM models the high density of air attacks in the Bay of Biscay, north-west of Spain after May 1943, fairly accurately. If you sail a VIIC from St Nazaire out into the Atlantic in July 1943, sailing as close as possible to the north Spanish coast during the way out, then the U-boat has almost half-empty compressed air by the time it reaches square CF. This result is obtained simply by ensuring that the U-boat surfaces only during darkness, and never during daylight. And it still needs to return through the Bay of Biscay! Therefore, I consider these to be settings that are the minimum acceptable under the worst conditions of the war. And therefore, it is not necessary for H.sie to re-introduce the oxygen supply of V15E as well as that of V15G1. I can accept the existing V15G1 with revised optional (slider) settings. @NGT: perhaps you would like to carry out the same operation (sail a VIIC boat through the Bay of Biscay in July 1943 using NYGM 3.5), but with the default settings for oxygen supply, ie those currently in V15G1. It will help you to understand the problem of the default settings. Stiebler. __________________ NYGM Tonnage War Mod - More than a mod: it's an experience! Last edited by Stiebler; 07-07-11 at 07:03 AM.