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Stiebler · 01-17-11, 04:08 AM

Evidently Makman and Magic do not use NYGM. Allow me to recommend that you both try it.

The crash-dive blues occurs when you order a crash-dive; then, *before the crash-dive has completed*, you order a new depth. For example, if your crash-depth depth is 80m, you click on the depth gauge for 150m before the U-boat reaches about 60-70 m.

This causes the U-boat to dive to 150m at an angle. We know now that this angle is caused because the quick-dive tank has not emptied. The quick-dive tank only returns to its normal level when the crash-dive is complete.

It is very hard to control the U-boat at any depth at slow speed, when it floats at an angle.

This is especially noticeable with NYGM, because of its anti-hover mod (no U-boat can hover underwater, it needs forward speed to maintain depth on the hydroplanes.) However, it is also noticeable with stock SH3.

The situation is different with GWX, which has a deliberate buoyancy - the U-boat tries to rise at slow speeds. This is not accurate, though.

Before H.sie's fix, the only way to stop the crash-dive blues was to rise to above the crash-dive depth (for example, rise from 150m to 50m), then crash-dive again, in order to empty the tank. Probably all players of NYGM (and perhaps of stock SH3, Rub, Aces, LivingSH3 etc) have learned this fact the hard way!

[Edit: Ooops. I see that my post has clashed with that of H.sie, who made his post just one minute before mine.]

Stiebler.

01-17-11, 04:08 AM	#923
Stiebler Fuel Supplier Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,237 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 4	What is the Crash-Dive Blues? Evidently Makman and Magic do not use NYGM. Allow me to recommend that you both try it. The crash-dive blues occurs when you order a crash-dive; then, before the crash-dive has completed, you order a new depth. For example, if your crash-depth depth is 80m, you click on the depth gauge for 150m before the U-boat reaches about 60-70 m. This causes the U-boat to dive to 150m at an angle. We know now that this angle is caused because the quick-dive tank has not emptied. The quick-dive tank only returns to its normal level when the crash-dive is complete. It is very hard to control the U-boat at any depth at slow speed, when it floats at an angle. This is especially noticeable with NYGM, because of its anti-hover mod (no U-boat can hover underwater, it needs forward speed to maintain depth on the hydroplanes.) However, it is also noticeable with stock SH3. The situation is different with GWX, which has a deliberate buoyancy - the U-boat tries to rise at slow speeds. This is not accurate, though. Before H.sie's fix, the only way to stop the crash-dive blues was to rise to above the crash-dive depth (for example, rise from 150m to 50m), then crash-dive again, in order to empty the tank. Probably all players of NYGM (and perhaps of stock SH3, Rub, Aces, LivingSH3 etc) have learned this fact the hard way! [Edit: Ooops. I see that my post has clashed with that of H.sie, who made his post just one minute before mine.] Stiebler. __________________ NYGM Tonnage War Mod - More than a mod: it's an experience! Last edited by Stiebler; 01-17-11 at 05:42 AM.